OT: Coronavirus

@"Hidalgo" said: People don't realize how many people each mail carrier interacts with. 

Exclusive: The 2020 Tokyo Olympics will be postponed, likely to 2021, veteran IOC member Dick Pound says.

“On the basis of the information the IOC has, postponement has been decided,” Pound told @cbrennansports. https://t.co/Fr8be81BEU pic.twitter.com/POWFtCr0wW

— USA TODAY Sports (@usatodaysports) March 23, 2020

@"Vikergirl" said: https://twitter.com/usatodaysports/status/1242140945396662273?s=19

I guess it pales in comparison to the death and dying...

@"purplefaithful" said:

@"Vikergirl" said: https://twitter.com/usatodaysports/status/1242140945396662273?s=19

They really didn't have much choice. An unfortunate consequence of all of this. 

I guess it pales in comparison to the death and dying...

@"purplefaithful" said:

@"Vikergirl" said: https://twitter.com/usatodaysports/status/1242140945396662273?s=19

They really didn't have much choice. An unfortunate consequence of all of this. 

I guess it pales in comparison to the death and dying...

@"JimmyinSD" said:

@"MaroonBells" said: @purplefaithful I know we all have different perspectives on CNN and MSM. That aside, there's a lesson here...We're someday going to be on the other side of the slope peak. The policies put into place then will determine how well we do or don't control additional outbreaks. I think we're going to see policies in place for the entire calendar year.  We're going to need to have enough test, tracing and isolating capability in place to address everyone - even the asymmetricals.  I dont mean that to sound dire, but I do think it will be our reality - and the worlds reality Just to play devil's advocate, I have to wonder if we won't get to a point where living (and, yes, dying) with corona is just the new normal. We’ll adjust, take precautions, and we’ll ACCEPT the fact that most of us are going to be infected. But 96% to 98% of us will survive, recover and then be immune.  When we hit that realization--that new normal (a shitty normal to be sure, especially for the elderly)--restaurants will open, borders will open, businesses will open. Infections will increase again, because we won't be over the virus by a long shot, but because of the amount of those immune, and the knowledge of prevention we will then have, the curve will be seen as tolerable, especially considering where we once WERE, and what it will have done to the world's economy by then.  I don't know if this is 6 weeks from now or 6 months, but at some point, we either have to get back to business or we'll be facing a Depression that will make the 30s look like a bad day on Wall Street. I know this might sound crass and uncaring, but I do believe that economic devastation with the job losses that come with it, the destruction of families and futures, suicides, etc. has the potential to do as much or more damage than a virus that will kill 3% of us could ever do. I don't know...just something I'm thinking. 

I have seen mention of immunity by several posters.  I havent actually seen any documented medical data that suggests that they body develops a long term immunity,  this isnt like the chicken pox where if you get it once you wont get it again from what I've read.  Some doctors are also suggesting that this will likely develop traits like the flu where it will run its course and then mutate into a similar but different strain that can reinfect. 

Boris locks-down Great Britain...Police ordered to ensure compliance.

Impassioned, from the heart, articulate speech to his people. 

Please join me for an important update on #coronavirus #StayHomeSaveLives pic.twitter.com/QSlIOIaYsF

— Boris Johnson (@BorisJohnson) March 23, 2020

Trump's presser just now, Barr touched base on investigations into the hoarding of ventilators and other medical supplies on an industrial scale. I guess it's not just Joe Shmoe trying to sell TP and masks out of the back of their minivan.

Pence goes on to say: "It's not the healthy that need a doctor, it's the sick. If you don't have symptoms you don't need a corona virus test."

See the discussion about Rand Paul a few posts back and man... sometimes this coronavirus stuff just leads in circles. 

@"MaroonBells" said:

@"JimmyinSD" said:

@"MaroonBells" said: @purplefaithful I know we all have different perspectives on CNN and MSM. That aside, there's a lesson here...We're someday going to be on the other side of the slope peak. The policies put into place then will determine how well we do or don't control additional outbreaks. I think we're going to see policies in place for the entire calendar year.  We're going to need to have enough test, tracing and isolating capability in place to address everyone - even the asymmetricals.  I dont mean that to sound dire, but I do think it will be our reality - and the worlds reality Just to play devil's advocate, I have to wonder if we won't get to a point where living (and, yes, dying) with corona is just the new normal. We’ll adjust, take precautions, and we’ll ACCEPT the fact that most of us are going to be infected. But 96% to 98% of us will survive, recover and then be immune.  When we hit that realization--that new normal (a shitty normal to be sure, especially for the elderly)--restaurants will open, borders will open, businesses will open. Infections will increase again, because we won't be over the virus by a long shot, but because of the amount of those immune, and the knowledge of prevention we will then have, the curve will be seen as tolerable, especially considering where we once WERE, and what it will have done to the world's economy by then.  I don't know if this is 6 weeks from now or 6 months, but at some point, we either have to get back to business or we'll be facing a Depression that will make the 30s look like a bad day on Wall Street. I know this might sound crass and uncaring, but I do believe that economic devastation with the job losses that come with it, the destruction of families and futures, suicides, etc. has the potential to do as much or more damage than a virus that will kill 3% of us could ever do. I don't know...just something I'm thinking. 

I have seen mention of immunity by several posters.  I havent actually seen any documented medical data that suggests that they body develops a long term immunity,  this isnt like the chicken pox where if you get it once you wont get it again from what I've read.  Some doctors are also suggesting that this will likely develop traits like the flu where it will run its course and then mutate into a similar but different strain that can reinfect. 

Yes, anything is possible and nothing is documented. Obviously. This is the great unknown. But most experts believe that it will behave like most infections and you will develop a level of immunity to it once you recover. The word I've heard bandied about is "likely." 

@"Bullazin" said:

@"MaroonBells" said:

@"JimmyinSD" said:

@"MaroonBells" said: @purplefaithful I know we all have different perspectives on CNN and MSM. That aside, there's a lesson here...We're someday going to be on the other side of the slope peak. The policies put into place then will determine how well we do or don't control additional outbreaks. I think we're going to see policies in place for the entire calendar year.  We're going to need to have enough test, tracing and isolating capability in place to address everyone - even the asymmetricals.  I dont mean that to sound dire, but I do think it will be our reality - and the worlds reality Just to play devil's advocate, I have to wonder if we won't get to a point where living (and, yes, dying) with corona is just the new normal. We’ll adjust, take precautions, and we’ll ACCEPT the fact that most of us are going to be infected. But 96% to 98% of us will survive, recover and then be immune.  When we hit that realization--that new normal (a shitty normal to be sure, especially for the elderly)--restaurants will open, borders will open, businesses will open. Infections will increase again, because we won't be over the virus by a long shot, but because of the amount of those immune, and the knowledge of prevention we will then have, the curve will be seen as tolerable, especially considering where we once WERE, and what it will have done to the world's economy by then.  I don't know if this is 6 weeks from now or 6 months, but at some point, we either have to get back to business or we'll be facing a Depression that will make the 30s look like a bad day on Wall Street. I know this might sound crass and uncaring, but I do believe that economic devastation with the job losses that come with it, the destruction of families and futures, suicides, etc. has the potential to do as much or more damage than a virus that will kill 3% of us could ever do. I don't know...just something I'm thinking. 

I have seen mention of immunity by several posters.  I havent actually seen any documented medical data that suggests that they body develops a long term immunity,  this isnt like the chicken pox where if you get it once you wont get it again from what I've read.  Some doctors are also suggesting that this will likely develop traits like the flu where it will run its course and then mutate into a similar but different strain that can reinfect. 

Yes, anything is possible and nothing is documented. Obviously. This is the great unknown. But most experts believe that it will behave like most infections and you will develop a level of immunity to it once you recover. The word I've heard bandied about is "likely." 

im no geek but even if it comes back around there should be some immunity ?  

Sidenote:  I am really happy that the whole government conspiracy theorists have been laying low.  We are all in this together and under these circumstances is a perfect example of why we need both state and federal government.  Just my opinion.

But we all know it won't be long where all the wing nuts start.  If it happened after 9/11 it will certainly happen with this situation.  

@"BlackMagic7" said: Pence goes on to say: "It's not the healthy that need a doctor, it's the sick. If you don't have symptoms you don't need a corona virus test."

See the discussion about Rand Paul a few posts back and man... sometimes this coronavirus stuff just leads in circles. 

There wasn't a lot in that presser I really thought much of.  Got a feeling we are gonna beat Italy on this one. {chant if you want}
Rand Paul is a doctor, if he needed to be tested, he should have been preparing for the results, not assuming anything.

@"minny65" said: Sidenote:  I am really happy that the whole government conspiracy theorists have been laying low.  We are all in this together and under these circumstances is a perfect example of why we need both state and federal government.  Just my opinion.

But we all know it won't be long where all the wing nuts start.  If it happened after 9/11 it will certainly happen with this situation.  

Conspiracy theories love to go against the grain. They don't know up from down when the Trump administration offers "free money" and is lambasted by his own supporters while Dems reject it and get lambasted by their own supporters.

@"BlackMagic7" said:

@"minny65" said: Sidenote:  I am really happy that the whole government conspiracy theorists have been laying low.  We are all in this together and under these circumstances is a perfect example of why we need both state and federal government.  Just my opinion.

But we all know it won't be long where all the wing nuts start.  If it happened after 9/11 it will certainly happen with this situation.  

Conspiracy theories love to go against the grain. They don't know up from down when the Trump administration offers "free money" and is lambasted by his own supporters while Dems reject it and get lambasted by their own supporters.

Or my favorite today was the lack of testing has occurred because we were told it was going to be at no cost, so insurance companies are slow walking it.  That's BS, but why are they so slow?  Lack of trust spawns this crap. 

Update for those that have inquired:

my symptoms really haven't changed for almost a week, now.  My fever is inching downward, and I think that some of my ongoing symptoms may actually be in response to allergy season kicking off.

Thanks, everyone that expressed concern.  So far, so good.

@"Zanary" said: Update for those that have inquired:

my symptoms really haven't changed for almost a week, now.  My fever is inching downward, and I think that some of my ongoing symptoms may actually be in response to allergy season kicking off.

Thanks, everyone that expressed concern.  So far, so good.