purplefaithful wrote:

Isnt the guy with the Mayo fetish sitting on someones practice squad too?

I think so. The Jets

Seems like a pretty shit trade for us. None of our QBs look good, but now we've only got 2 injury riddled QBs and Brosmer. We got about as shit of a return as one can possibly get. Didn't appear to be a problem in the locker room, at least that anyone is reporting.

It feels like just waiting longer would have been a better option. Like what was the rush in making this move? I don't see how this makes us better. We're going to draft a guy who might make an impact in 2028. A fifth isn't even useful in moving up a single spot in the first.

I get the vibes, source no one but my gut, that KOC thinks he can make any QB work, and if they can't work in this system, they're gone. We've gotten rid of a tremendous amount of QBs since he's been here. You can make one of those jerseys with all the names of the QBs that have started for KOC and are now off the team and it's down to the butt already. Gut feeling is that Murray is gone after this year and we bring back Cousins. Heck we might even do it midseason by the trade deadline if Murray continues to suck and the Raiders are fine with the future starting this year.

Seriously what were we expecting. At the end of preseason there was thoughts we might drop him outright. A 5th rounder sounds about right maybe a bit of an overpay. I was hoping for a 4th with swapping a 5th. However in this case you are trading with one of the worst teams in the league with Dart injured so should be an early 5.

Kmerry82 wrote:

Seriously what were we expecting. At the end of preseason there was thoughts we might drop him outright. A 5th rounder sounds about right maybe a bit of an overpay. I was hoping for a 4th with swapping a 5th. However in this case you are trading with one of the worst teams in the league with Dart injured so should be an early 5.

Yeah… the compensation is fair. It certainly stings because he was a top 10 pick, but they had an opportunity to get something for him and took it.

hogjowlsjohnny wrote:

The hit rate on a 5th round pick is 4-15%. Vikings must have felt there was a less than 15% chance JJ would develop into an NFL starter, otherwise how do they justify this trade?
They turned a number 10 overall pick into a 5th round pick. Now that's bad judgement. And blame goes a lot deeper than Kwesi!

It gets worse... they turned a first, fourth, and early fifth into a 5th and a 6th. remember, they traded with the jets to move up to 10th and it cost them their 4th and 5th also getting a 6th back.

Kmerry82 wrote:

Seriously what were we expecting. At the end of preseason there was thoughts we might drop him outright. A 5th rounder sounds about right maybe a bit of an overpay. I was hoping for a 4th with swapping a 5th. However in this case you are trading with one of the worst teams in the league with Dart injured so should be an early 5.

then you hang onto him hoping your QB whisperer coach can develop him.

Not trying to say I told you so, but I did. They acted like they were done with him....and they were. Didn't think it would happen so quickly but he was a dead man walking as soon as Kyler signed. Still surprised about the quickness. So this was KAM's baby then, or at least that's who they put the blame on to get rid of McCarthy like this. 😮 Teasley obviously was not a fan.

I just don’t like how this puts the Vikings in a position of weakness and desperation at the QB position. This move screams of overpaying Kyler on an impending contract extension because they painted themselves into a corner.

Unless McCarthy played — and played well — this season, his trade value was going to continue depreciating. Next offseason, he likely would have fallen into the pick-swap category. By moving him in-season, Teasley got to capitalize on another team’s desperation.

In the end, McCarthy ends up being a bust of a pick by the Vikings, but they didn’t let him become a total sunk cost. Instead, they got what they could and moved on from a player who appeared to be an extreme long shot to live up to the draft price with their organization.

From The Athletic

A good friend also mentioned that JJ’s refusal to play in the preseason was probably the last straw. This makes a ton of sense.

I'd rather have kept McCarthy and traded Murray for a 5th round pick...

CFIAvike wrote:

I just don’t like how this puts the Vikings in a position of weakness and desperation at the QB position. This move screams of overpaying Kyler on an impending contract extension because they painted themselves into a corner.

Or, they reset the position completely if Murray is unworthy on an extension.

StickierBuns wrote:

Teasley obviously was not a fan.

Clearly he wants someone else in there.

Thats probably the biggest explanation of all...

They had a chance to scout him back in his SEA days too.

purplefaithful wrote:

Clearly he wants someone else in there.
Thats probably the biggest explanation of all...
They had a chance to scout him back in his SEA days too.

...and conversely the Giants really liked McCarthy in that Draft. And now they got him. John must have called Jim to get the scoop on JJ.

Vikings Trade J.J. McCarthy to Giants for 2027 Fifth-Round Pick

Sep 28, 2026 at 11:25 AM

Andy Kenutis/Minnesota Vikings

EAGAN, Minn. — The Vikings have traded J.J. McCarthy to the New York Giants, the team announced Monday.

Minnesota received a 2027 fifth-round pick from New York, which lost starting QB Jaxson Dart for the season in Week 2. The deal is pending McCarthy passing a physical exam.

The Vikings drafted McCarthy 10th overall out of Michigan in 2024, where he was coached by Jim Harbaugh, the current Chargers head coach and brother of Giants Head Coach John Harbaugh.

After spending the entirety of his rookie campaign on Injured Reserve with a knee injury suffered in the Vikings first preseason game, McCarthy made his NFL debut in Week 1 of the 2025 campaign. He finished the Monday Night Football outing 13-of-20 passing for 143 yards, two passing touchdowns and a rushing score — all in the fourth quarter — with one interception. McCarthy earned NFC Offensive Player of the Week for helping lead Minnesota to a comeback win.

McCarthy suffered a high ankle sprain against the Falcons in Week 2 and missed five games, returning for a Week 9 divisional matchup against Detroit.

He finished the 2025 season having started 10 games, going 6-4 in those contests. McCarthy finished the season 140-of-243 passing for 1,632 yards, 11 touchdowns and 12 interceptions. His passer rating was 72.6.

During the 2026 offseason workouts and training camp, McCarthy competed with free agent addition Kyler Murray for Minnesota's starting QB spot. The Vikings officially named Murray the starter on Aug. 11.

Murray started in Week 1 but left the game in concussion protocol after 11 snaps. He was replaced by veteran Carson Wentz, who started Week 2 before passing the reins back to Murray in Week 3.

Minnesota has opened the season 3-0 after closing 2025 with a 5-0 mark.

Kyler cries in preseason that he isn't getting all the 1st team reps, KOC says he is the starter. Kyler is playing like absolute dog shit, they trade JJM. Why? because the fans will and have turned on Kyler? At what point do we start to blame KOC.

MURRAY IS STRAIGHT TRASH

About what I thought they'd get. He fell out of favorite with KOC for whatever reason.

StickierBuns wrote:

...and conversely the Giants really liked McCarthy in that Draft. And now they got him. John must have called Jim to get the scoop on JJ.

I'm sure he did chat with his bro.

But in 24 they passed and took Nabers so read into that what we will...

I am certain players like Jettas and coaches like McCown weighed in on his progress (or lack of it) to the GM before this trade was made

JustInTime wrote:

Unless McCarthy played — and played well — this season, his trade value was going to continue depreciating. Next offseason, he likely would have fallen into the pick-swap category. By moving him in-season, Teasley got to capitalize on another team’s desperation.
In the end, McCarthy ends up being a bust of a pick by the Vikings, but they didn’t let him become a total sunk cost. Instead, they got what they could and moved on from a player who appeared to be an extreme long shot to live up to the draft price with their organization.
From The Athletic
A good friend also mentioned that JJ’s refusal to play in the preseason was probably the last straw. This makes a ton of sense.

Yeah, and his comments in TC as well. Obviously he wasn't endearing himself to the coaches. That and his high rate of injury wasn't worth keeping around. Refusal to play, pulling himself out over an injury he decided to play with. Something ain't right in the head.

purplefaithful wrote:

I'm sure he did chat with his bro.
But in 24 they passed and took Nabers so read into that what we will...
I am certain players like Jettas and coaches like McCown weighed in on his progress (or lack of it) to the GM before this trade was made

He did…

Before trading for McCarthy John Harbaugh talked to his brother Jim about him during his Michigan days and GM Joe Schoen made calls to others to gather as much info as they can @NFLonFOX

— Jay Glazer (@JayGlazer) September 28, 2026

"The worst thing to do with a #1 pick is to keep him too long"

Ernie Acorsi (2004)

The philosophy came to light while he was in the middle of orchestrating one of the most famous draft-day gambles in football history: trading for Eli Manning. Accorsi used the mantra to explain why a general manager must be absolutely fearless when evaluating top-tier talent. In his eyes, if you realize a high draft pick doesn't have the mental or physical makeup to win championships, you have to cut bait immediately rather than forcing it just to protect your own ego or justify the "sunk cost". [1, 2]