HOOOOOLLLLD up... Mond wasn't vaccinated either?!?

@"StickyBun" said: From the New York Times: "Physicians working in Covid hot spots across the nation say that the patients in their hospitals are not like the patients they saw last year. Almost always unvaccinated, the new arrivals tend to be younger, many in their 20s or 30s. And they seem sicker than younger patients were last year, deteriorating more rapidly. "Doctors have coined a new phrase to describe them: “younger, sicker, quicker.” Many physicians treating them suspect that the Delta variant of the coronavirus, which now accounts for more than 80 percent of new infections nationwide, is playing a role. Studies done in a handful of other countries suggest that the variant may cause more severe disease, but there is no definitive data showing that the new variant is somehow worse for young adults. "Some experts believe the shift in patient demographics is strictly a result of lower vaccination rates in this group."

But Covid only affects the older people with commodities. 

@"Vikergirl" said:

@"Nichelle" said: I wonder how the Washington Football Team did it. They went from 60% pre-camp to 84% a week later. We were just posting about Ron Rivera's frustration and an ex-NFL player who said that Ron should step away from the game instead of players getting vaccinated.

Maybe once players see that the league is at 90% overall, there will be more willingness to take care of this. Some may never change their stance, but maybe after seeing what happened during the first week of camp, others will.

Maybe Zim needs to call Ron. I think some of the WTF players were defending their guy a bit after those comments too. Something has to be done though.

The year is 2025.  NFL Network airs their new episode of "Missing Rings". 

Today we feature the 2021 Minnesota Vikings.  They had everything going right in the playoffs.  1st round bye, thwomped the GB Packers in the divisional round.  Beat the Goat in the NFCC game.  The as things always seem to go for the Vikings, 30% of the team will miss the Superbowl including QB Kirk Cousins due to covid caught during their playoff success celebrations. 

@"Nichelle" said: I wonder how the Washington Football Team did it. They went from 60% pre-camp to 84% a week later. We were just posting about Ron Rivera's frustration and an ex-NFL player who said that Ron should step away from the game instead of players getting vaccinated.

Maybe once players see that the league is at 90% overall, there will be more willingness to take care of this. Some may never change their stance, but maybe after seeing what happened during the first week of camp, others will.

I think most educated people, after hearing from professionals who separate myth from reality, will make the right choice. It's why I have hope for Thielen, Smith, Richardson, etc. It's the "true believers" who are the problem. The ones who will happily die before changing their minds, because persecution and ridicule is part of their walk with God, and just another test of their faith. 

And I'm afraid our starting QB is one of those. 

Connecting the dots...  does anyone else think our league low vaccination rate is directly tied to the fact that our starting QB is against getting the COVID vaccine?  If we find out Kirk is influencing players to not get the vaccine and he and other players miss time this season due to COVID...  I think we'll see Kirk in a different uniform next year, cap hit be damned.

@"Wetlander" said: Connecting the dots...  does anyone else think our league low vaccination rate is directly tied to the fact that our starting QB is against getting the COVID vaccine?  If we find out Kirk is influencing players to not get the vaccine and he and other players miss time this season due to COVID...  I think we'll see Kirk in a different uniform next year, cap hit be damned.

@"Wetlander" said:

@"jargomcfargo" said: Don't be surprised if he gets cut.

They aren't cutting Mond, lol.

@"Wetlander" said: Connecting the dots...  does anyone else think our league low vaccination rate is directly tied to the fact that our starting QB is against getting the COVID vaccine?  

@"AGRforever" said:

The year is 2025.  NFL Network airs their new episode of "Missing Rings". 

Today we feature the 2021 Minnesota Vikings.  They had everything going right in the playoffs.  1st round bye, thwomped the GB Packers in the divisional round.  Beat the Goat in the NFCC game.  The as things always seem to go for the Vikings, 30% of the team will miss the Superbowl including QB Kirk Cousins due to covid caught during their playoff success celebrations. 

@"greediron" said: Hope the players keep standing up for their rights.  The QBs have the Vikings and NFL in a bad spot, they need Cousins and Mond.  Let Cousins miss a few games because of the NFL draconian health rules.  He gets paid, the NFL suffers.

@"Wetlander" said: Connecting the dots...  does anyone else think our league low vaccination rate is directly tied to the fact that our starting QB is against getting the COVID vaccine?  If we find out Kirk is influencing players to not get the vaccine and he and other players miss time this season due to COVID...  I think we'll see Kirk in a different uniform next year, cap hit be damned.

I kinda hope they all catch it before the season starts.  Miss a preseason game....not that big of a deal.

@"MaroonBells" said:

@"Wetlander" said: Connecting the dots...  does anyone else think our league low vaccination rate is directly tied to the fact that our starting QB is against getting the COVID vaccine?  

Doesn't this run counter to the idea that he's not much of a leader? I think Cousins is the most underrated QB in the NFL. But I've always believed that lack of true leadership was his biggest flaw.

Boy, stupidity has run amok here.  LOL  You have internet tough guys like HawkVike, MaroonBalls, and Barr55 calling pro football players pussies and dumb fucks because they don't agree with their views on being vaccinated?  Lol.  All of you would have your ass handed to you if you saw them in person, and wouldn't be nearly so brave.  I've met some of you in the past, and your ability to back up your words is virtually non-existent.  Most of you are all up in arms about others being vaccinated, but the studies show two things so far about them.  If you receive them, your chances of being hospitalized or dying go down at such a magnitude as to being safer than the common flu.  That being true, and if you are all true believers, then why why do you care if other players choose to be vaccinated?   You should be whining about the league rules, not trying to steal personal choice away from people who have beliefs counter to yours, many of whom are much more intelligent than you.  You all whine like little bitches to this day about a former leader who enabled mass production of the same vaccines that you now claim are saving the world.  The NFL should open things up and let people play.  If a player is feeling sick, they probably shouldn't play, (much like the flu).  If a player who is unvaccinated dies, he dies.  You should be whining about the guys blowing their hands off with fireworks and driving 110mph, not QB's playing into their mid 40's because they know how to take care of themselves.  It's really that simple at the end of the day.  The NFL has stupid rules in place, but because you guys are such "megafans", let's take away a bunch of players rights so the billionaires, can billionaire a little more.  Normally, I'm all for the owners, but this is just stupid, and so is the short-sightedness of following group think created by a govt who now freely admits regulating what the media reports.   Whole bunch of stupidity here, but go on by all means.    

@"AGRforever" said:

@"StickyBun" said: From the New York Times: "Physicians working in Covid hot spots across the nation say that the patients in their hospitals are not like the patients they saw last year. Almost always unvaccinated, the new arrivals tend to be younger, many in their 20s or 30s. And they seem sicker than younger patients were last year, deteriorating more rapidly. "Doctors have coined a new phrase to describe them: “younger, sicker, quicker.” Many physicians treating them suspect that the Delta variant of the coronavirus, which now accounts for more than 80 percent of new infections nationwide, is playing a role. Studies done in a handful of other countries suggest that the variant may cause more severe disease, but there is no definitive data showing that the new variant is somehow worse for young adults. "Some experts believe the shift in patient demographics is strictly a result of lower vaccination rates in this group."

But Covid only affects the older people with commodities. 

@"dadevike" said:

@"greediron" said: Hope the players keep standing up for their rights.  The QBs have the Vikings and NFL in a bad spot, they need Cousins and Mond.  Let Cousins miss a few games because of the NFL draconian health rules.  He gets paid, the NFL suffers.

The owners should vote to exclude all unvaccinated players and coaches from any NFL stadium, practice field, meeting room, gym, cafeteria, etc.  Make them ineligible to play.  Just make vaccination a prerequisite for employment with the NFL or any of its member clubs. Anyone with a valid medical exemption is excused but has to be masked at all times while on any NFL property.

@"Wetlander" said:

@"MaroonBells" said:

@"Wetlander" said: Connecting the dots...  does anyone else think our league low vaccination rate is directly tied to the fact that our starting QB is against getting the COVID vaccine?  

Doesn't this run counter to the idea that he's not much of a leader? I think Cousins is the most underrated QB in the NFL. But I've always believed that lack of true leadership was his biggest flaw.

There's a difference between rallying the troops on game day and being an active voice in the locker room.

@"Waterboy" said: Boy, stupidity has run amok here.  LOL  You have internet tough guys like HawkVike, MaroonBalls, and Barr55 calling pro football players pussies and dumb fucks because they don't agree with their views on being vaccinated?  Lol.  All of you would have your ass handed to you if you saw them in person, and wouldn't be nearly so brave.  I've met some of you in the past, and your ability to back up your words is virtually non-existent.  Most of you are all up in arms about others being vaccinated, but the studies show two things so far about them.  If you receive them, your chances of being hospitalized or dying go down at such a magnitude as to being safer than the common flu.  That being true, and if you are all true believers, then why why do you care if other players choose to be vaccinated?   You should be whining about the league rules, not trying to steal personal choice away from people who have beliefs counter to yours, many of whom are much more intelligent than you.  You all whine like little bitches to this day about a former leader who enabled mass production of the same vaccines that you now claim are saving the world.  The NFL should open things up and let people play.  If a player is feeling sick, they probably shouldn't play, (much like the flu).  If a player who is unvaccinated dies, he dies.  You should be whining about the guys blowing their hands off with fireworks and driving 110mph, not QB's playing into their mid 40's because they know how to take care of themselves.  It's really that simple at the end of the day.  The NFL has stupid rules in place, but because you guys are such "megafans", let's take away a bunch of players rights so the billionaires, can billionaire a little more.  Normally, I'm all for the owners, but this is just stupid, and so is the short-sightedness of following group think created by a govt who now freely admits regulating what the media reports.   Whole bunch of stupidity here, but go on by all means.    

@"Hawkvike25" said:

@"Waterboy" said: Boy, stupidity has run amok here.  LOL  You have internet tough guys like HawkVike, MaroonBalls, and Barr55 calling pro football players pussies and dumb fucks because they don't agree with their views on being vaccinated?  Lol.  All of you would have your ass handed to you if you saw them in person, and wouldn't be nearly so brave.  I've met some of you in the past, and your ability to back up your words is virtually non-existent.  Most of you are all up in arms about others being vaccinated, but the studies show two things so far about them.  If you receive them, your chances of being hospitalized or dying go down at such a magnitude as to being safer than the common flu.  That being true, and if you are all true believers, then why why do you care if other players choose to be vaccinated?   You should be whining about the league rules, not trying to steal personal choice away from people who have beliefs counter to yours, many of whom are much more intelligent than you.  You all whine like little bitches to this day about a former leader who enabled mass production of the same vaccines that you now claim are saving the world.  The NFL should open things up and let people play.  If a player is feeling sick, they probably shouldn't play, (much like the flu).  If a player who is unvaccinated dies, he dies.  You should be whining about the guys blowing their hands off with fireworks and driving 110mph, not QB's playing into their mid 40's because they know how to take care of themselves.  It's really that simple at the end of the day.  The NFL has stupid rules in place, but because you guys are such "megafans", let's take away a bunch of players rights so the billionaires, can billionaire a little more.  Normally, I'm all for the owners, but this is just stupid, and so is the short-sightedness of following group think created by a govt who now freely admits regulating what the media reports.   Whole bunch of stupidity here, but go on by all means.    

You have made my day, Waterboy. Thank you for the shout out and the Internet Tough Guy (First time in my life being called that) nickname. Congrats on post 100, have a great day

@"Hawkvike25" said:

@"Waterboy" said: Boy, stupidity has run amok here.  LOL  You have internet tough guys like HawkVike, MaroonBalls, and Barr55 calling pro football players pussies and dumb fucks because they don't agree with their views on being vaccinated?  Lol.  All of you would have your ass handed to you if you saw them in person, and wouldn't be nearly so brave.  I've met some of you in the past, and your ability to back up your words is virtually non-existent.  Most of you are all up in arms about others being vaccinated, but the studies show two things so far about them.  If you receive them, your chances of being hospitalized or dying go down at such a magnitude as to being safer than the common flu.  That being true, and if you are all true believers, then why why do you care if other players choose to be vaccinated?   You should be whining about the league rules, not trying to steal personal choice away from people who have beliefs counter to yours, many of whom are much more intelligent than you.  You all whine like little bitches to this day about a former leader who enabled mass production of the same vaccines that you now claim are saving the world.  The NFL should open things up and let people play.  If a player is feeling sick, they probably shouldn't play, (much like the flu).  If a player who is unvaccinated dies, he dies.  You should be whining about the guys blowing their hands off with fireworks and driving 110mph, not QB's playing into their mid 40's because they know how to take care of themselves.  It's really that simple at the end of the day.  The NFL has stupid rules in place, but because you guys are such "megafans", let's take away a bunch of players rights so the billionaires, can billionaire a little more.  Normally, I'm all for the owners, but this is just stupid, and so is the short-sightedness of following group think created by a govt who now freely admits regulating what the media reports.   Whole bunch of stupidity here, but go on by all means.    

You have made my day, Waterboy. Thank you for the shout out and the Internet Tough Guy (First time in my life being called that) nickname. Congrats on post 100, have a great day