HOOOOOLLLLD up... Mond wasn't vaccinated either?!?

Turns out the NFL is full of them. 

@"RS Express" said: Saw this buried in the Day 5 thread and everybody apparently missed it: 

(2) Andrew Krammer on Twitter: "Correction: Reported Saturday night that Kellen Mond was vaccinated. That is not true. Been told by multiple people he was following protocols for unvaccinated players before testing positive. It's why he was testing in the first place. Unvaxxed tested daily. Sorry to mislead." / Twitter

So 75% of the QB's (Cousins, Mond, Stanley) were unvaccinated.  Vikings must have the dumbest QB room in the NFL SMDH. No wonder Zim is blowing fuses.

P.S.: There goes the anti-vaxxers' "But the vaccinated guy tested positive and we jumped on Kirk" argument.  Turns out we just had one more idiot than we realized.

I dont think it was missed,  ( I believe I had seen it mentioned in 2 threads yesterday) I think most realized that we didn't need another thread on the same subject...but apparently we do so here it is.

At what point does the NFL (and other groups) just make it mandatory like the MMR? Right now, you can't go to public schools, most universities or play any kind of sport without proof you've been vaccinated against diphtheria, tetanus, polio, measles, rubella, etc. In other words, Cousins, Mond, Thielen, etc., all showed proof of vaccination against these diseases in order to get in to their schools. 

I'm assuming their (and others) argument would be that those vaccinations were FDA approved and the Covid19 vaccines are not. Yet. (There have been some reports that FDA approval for the Pfizer vaccine could happen early this fall).

So what happens if we get approval? Does that change stances? Or are the "blind politics" of this so baked into it now that it won't make a bit of difference. 

@"MaroonBells" said: At what point does the NFL (and other groups) just make it mandatory like the MMR? Right now, you can't go to public schools, most universities or play any kind of sport without proof you've been vaccinated against diphtheria, tetanus, polio, measles, rubella, etc. In other words, Cousins, Mond, Thielen, etc., all showed proof of vaccination against these diseases in order to get in to their schools. 

I'm assuming their (and others) argument would be that those vaccinations were FDA approved and the Covid19 vaccines are not. Yet. (There have been some reports that FDA approval for the Pfizer vaccine could happen early this fall).

So what happens if we get approval? Does that change stances? Or are the "blind politics" of this so baked into it now that it won't make a bit of difference. 

I would think that if the NFL turns into a shitshow where multiple games are cancelled then you will see this type of requirement being implemented. When the NFL starts losing money things will become more strict

More strict?! 

the rules are already crazy punitive...I'm telling you in early August there is going to be more than one team loaded with talent that will have to forfeit games. It'll cause them to miss the dance all together or drop their seedings precipitously. 

I would argue that things are less strict now, because they
just stopped testing people that are vaccinated, so they’ll have no information
on the vaccinated people that are spreading Covid, unless they’re sick enough
to lose sense of smell or taste or go to the hospital, they’ll probably just
assume they’re sick with anything but Covid. 
If half your team isn’t being tested, then you’ve reduced your risk of
positive covid tests by half.

@"MaroonBells" said: At what point does the NFL (and other groups) just make it mandatory like the MMR? Right now, you can't go to public schools, most universities or play any kind of sport without proof you've been vaccinated against diphtheria, tetanus, polio, measles, rubella, etc. In other words, Cousins, Mond, Thielen, etc., all showed proof of vaccination against these diseases in order to get in to their schools. 

I'm assuming their (and others) argument would be that those vaccinations were FDA approved and the Covid19 vaccines are not. Yet. (There have been some reports that FDA approval for the Pfizer vaccine could happen early this fall).

So what happens if we get approval? Does that change stances? Or are the "blind politics" of this so baked into it now that it won't make a bit of difference. 

They’ve done polls on this. 
A sizeable percentage of the people who are antiCovid vaccine, are
against the newness and the less tested nature of this vaccine and would be
open for vaccination if it passes standard safety/efficacy protocols (FDA Approval).  I don’t remember the exact percentage, but
maybe like 30-40% of the unvaccinated.
I think there’s a decent chunk of people who would get an
old-school version of the vaccine, but not an mRNA version of the vaccine.

Obviously there’s still a large chunk who are against vaccines
in general, and another large chunk who are against anything supported by
establishment politicians, establishment media sources, or condescending peers
of the other party.

J&J was the old school version (and the one I got) but the #'s for it were depressed when they had to pull it temporarily from the mkt. I'm sure that spooked plenty who were already skittish. 

Many dont realize MRNA has been around over a dozen years. Bad job of communicating and educating a public that needs it. 

Then there is all the jabs in arms the media shows close-up...Any needle phobic individual is going to be shell-shocked with this videos lol! 

So it looks like Captain Kirk is Mond's mentor on and off the field - yay.  :s  Effing idiots.

Krammer doesn't seem to be a great source on this and surprisingly there is no one else reporting it, but considering he is from Texas which is leading the way in Covid cases it wouldn't be a shock.  I was high on Mond, but if this is true he is just another selfish player who doesn't have the leadership skills to be a QB.  

How about a 3 way trade with Houston and Denver, Watson to Denver, Cousins to the Texans (he would fit right in) and Teddy comes back to Minny.  

@"JR44" said: Krammer doesn't seem to be a great source on this and surprisingly there is no one else reporting it, but considering he is from Texas which is leading the way in Covid cases it wouldn't be a shock.  I was high on Mond, but if this is true he is just another selfish player who doesn't have the leadership skills to be a QB.  

How about a 3 way trade with Houston and Denver, Watson to Denver, Cousins to the Texans (he would fit right in) and Teddy comes back to Minny.  

I thought you wanted the Vikings to be good?

@"JR44" said: Krammer doesn't seem to be a great source on this and surprisingly there is no one else reporting it, but considering he is from Texas which is leading the way in Covid cases it wouldn't be a shock.  I was high on Mond, but if this is true he is just another selfish player who doesn't have the leadership skills to be a QB.  

How about a 3 way trade with Houston and Denver, Watson to Denver, Cousins to the Texans (he would fit right in) and Teddy comes back to Minny.  

@"StickyBun" said:

@"JR44" said: Krammer doesn't seem to be a great source on this and surprisingly there is no one else reporting it, but considering he is from Texas which is leading the way in Covid cases it wouldn't be a shock.  I was high on Mond, but if this is true he is just another selfish player who doesn't have the leadership skills to be a QB.  

How about a 3 way trade with Houston and Denver, Watson to Denver, Cousins to the Texans (he would fit right in) and Teddy comes back to Minny.  

I thought you wanted the Vikings to be good?

The below should help explain why others are focused on Kirk

• 2021 Salary: 21,000,000 vs 1,818,848
• 2021 roster Status: Starting QB vs "potential" QB2
• Total cash: 96,028,856 Vs 5,223,416

@"JR44" said:

@"StickyBun" said:

@"JR44" said: Krammer doesn't seem to be a great source on this and surprisingly there is no one else reporting it, but considering he is from Texas which is leading the way in Covid cases it wouldn't be a shock.  I was high on Mond, but if this is true he is just another selfish player who doesn't have the leadership skills to be a QB.  

How about a 3 way trade with Houston and Denver, Watson to Denver, Cousins to the Texans (he would fit right in) and Teddy comes back to Minny.  

I thought you wanted the Vikings to be good?

Here we go, I should have known better, here comes to the Sticky/Barr train!  Lol!  So for the past year I have had you both blast me about bashing Kirk and defending Teddy.  How did you support for Kirk work out for you?!  Based on that, I wouldn't be so cocky about your opinions of Teddy!  Hilarious!

@"BarrNone55" said:

@"JR44" said:

@"StickyBun" said:

@"JR44" said: Krammer doesn't seem to be a great source on this and surprisingly there is no one else reporting it, but considering he is from Texas which is leading the way in Covid cases it wouldn't be a shock.  I was high on Mond, but if this is true he is just another selfish player who doesn't have the leadership skills to be a QB.  

How about a 3 way trade with Houston and Denver, Watson to Denver, Cousins to the Texans (he would fit right in) and Teddy comes back to Minny.  

I thought you wanted the Vikings to be good?

Here we go, I should have known better, here comes to the Sticky/Barr train!  Lol!  So for the past year I have had you both blast me about bashing Kirk and defending Teddy.  How did you support for Kirk work out for you?!  Based on that, I wouldn't be so cocky about your opinions of Teddy!  Hilarious!

Lol. You're idolizing Teddy is consistent if not totally laughable. Maybe with a 17 game season, Teddy could reach 20 TDs. 

Wake up and stop making a fool of yourself. Are you related to PonderDat? 

@"JR44" said:

@"BarrNone55" said:

@"JR44" said:

@"StickyBun" said:

@"JR44" said: Krammer doesn't seem to be a great source on this and surprisingly there is no one else reporting it, but considering he is from Texas which is leading the way in Covid cases it wouldn't be a shock.  I was high on Mond, but if this is true he is just another selfish player who doesn't have the leadership skills to be a QB.  

How about a 3 way trade with Houston and Denver, Watson to Denver, Cousins to the Texans (he would fit right in) and Teddy comes back to Minny.  

I thought you wanted the Vikings to be good?

Here we go, I should have known better, here comes to the Sticky/Barr train!  Lol!  So for the past year I have had you both blast me about bashing Kirk and defending Teddy.  How did you support for Kirk work out for you?!  Based on that, I wouldn't be so cocky about your opinions of Teddy!  Hilarious!

Lol. You're idolizing Teddy is consistent if not totally laughable. Maybe with a 17 game season, Teddy could reach 20 TDs. 

Wake up and stop making a fool of yourself. Are you related to PonderDat? 

I could say the same about your fandom for Cousins, so maybe you shouldn't be so arrogant and obnoxious about this seeing you have already been shown to be terribly wrong about Cousins!  Last time I remember Teddy in purple we won the division, despite having to play our home games in a college outdoor stadium and were a fluke 20 yard FG miss from a playoff win against Seattle and were entering the next season as a Super Bowl favorite with Teddy leading the way.  

@"BarrNone55" said:

@"JR44" said:

@"BarrNone55" said:

@"JR44" said:

@"StickyBun" said:

@"JR44" said: Krammer doesn't seem to be a great source on this and surprisingly there is no one else reporting it, but considering he is from Texas which is leading the way in Covid cases it wouldn't be a shock.  I was high on Mond, but if this is true he is just another selfish player who doesn't have the leadership skills to be a QB.  

How about a 3 way trade with Houston and Denver, Watson to Denver, Cousins to the Texans (he would fit right in) and Teddy comes back to Minny.  

I thought you wanted the Vikings to be good?

Here we go, I should have known better, here comes to the Sticky/Barr train!  Lol!  So for the past year I have had you both blast me about bashing Kirk and defending Teddy.  How did you support for Kirk work out for you?!  Based on that, I wouldn't be so cocky about your opinions of Teddy!  Hilarious!

Lol. You're idolizing Teddy is consistent if not totally laughable. Maybe with a 17 game season, Teddy could reach 20 TDs. 

Wake up and stop making a fool of yourself. Are you related to PonderDat? 

I could say the same about your fandom for Cousins, so maybe you shouldn't be so arrogant and obnoxious about this seeing you have already been shown to be terribly wrong about Cousins!  Last time I remember Teddy in purple we won the division, despite having to play our home games in a college outdoor stadium and were a fluke 20 yard FG miss from a playoff win against Seattle and were entering the next season as a Super Bowl favorite with Teddy leading the way.  

Really? Where have I been wrong? Posting stats about Cousins performance. Lol. 

Again, let me know when Teddy passes for 20 TDs or beats out the vaunted Drew Lock. Lolololol.

Have a nice day, TeddyDat!

@"JR44" said:

@"BarrNone55" said:

@"JR44" said:

@"BarrNone55" said:

@"JR44" said:

@"StickyBun" said:

@"JR44" said: Krammer doesn't seem to be a great source on this and surprisingly there is no one else reporting it, but considering he is from Texas which is leading the way in Covid cases it wouldn't be a shock.  I was high on Mond, but if this is true he is just another selfish player who doesn't have the leadership skills to be a QB.  

How about a 3 way trade with Houston and Denver, Watson to Denver, Cousins to the Texans (he would fit right in) and Teddy comes back to Minny.  

I thought you wanted the Vikings to be good?

Here we go, I should have known better, here comes to the Sticky/Barr train!  Lol!  So for the past year I have had you both blast me about bashing Kirk and defending Teddy.  How did you support for Kirk work out for you?!  Based on that, I wouldn't be so cocky about your opinions of Teddy!  Hilarious!

Lol. You're idolizing Teddy is consistent if not totally laughable. Maybe with a 17 game season, Teddy could reach 20 TDs. 

Wake up and stop making a fool of yourself. Are you related to PonderDat? 

I could say the same about your fandom for Cousins, so maybe you shouldn't be so arrogant and obnoxious about this seeing you have already been shown to be terribly wrong about Cousins!  Last time I remember Teddy in purple we won the division, despite having to play our home games in a college outdoor stadium and were a fluke 20 yard FG miss from a playoff win against Seattle and were entering the next season as a Super Bowl favorite with Teddy leading the way.  

Really? Where have I been wrong? Posting stats about Cousins performance. Lol. 

Again, let me know when Teddy passes for 20 TDs or beats out the vaunted Drew Lock. Lolololol.

Have a nice day, TeddyDat!

Lol!  Will do and you let me know when Kirk wins a division title, shows he can beat the good teams and shows any kind of leadership!  

@"JR44" said:

@"StickyBun" said:

@"JR44" said: Krammer doesn't seem to be a great source on this and surprisingly there is no one else reporting it, but considering he is from Texas which is leading the way in Covid cases it wouldn't be a shock.  I was high on Mond, but if this is true he is just another selfish player who doesn't have the leadership skills to be a QB.  

How about a 3 way trade with Houston and Denver, Watson to Denver, Cousins to the Texans (he would fit right in) and Teddy comes back to Minny.  

I thought you wanted the Vikings to be good?

Here we go, I should have known better, here comes to the Sticky/Barr train!  Lol!  So for the past year I have had you both blast me about bashing Kirk and defending Teddy.  How did you support for Kirk work out for you?!  Based on that, I wouldn't be so cocky about your opinions of Teddy!  Hilarious!