OT: Coronavirus
Wow....
Yeah, DIA is never that empty. My goodness, this thing has really gotten ahold of people. But I suspect that it's going to make a far bigger dent in the global economy than the global population.
What changes have you made? Personally, I have tickets to fly to San Francisco with my kids to see my brother in a couple of weeks. And, so far anyway, I plan to go. But I have to say I'm a little nervous about it, especially with my kids. Not as much about the virus as how people are panicking about it. A flight yesterday was rerouted to Denver because someone, um...sneezed. And I am narrowing in on some ridiculously priced tickets to Cancun in May. Am I crazy?
“A gentleman is someone who can play the accordion, but doesn't." - Tom Waits
@"StickyBun" said:@"BigAl99" said:@"StickyBun" said: Florida does have a lot of cases, but the positivity rate is low. And the death rate is extremely low, especially compared to the national average. Keep in mind a TON of people have been tested in FL, probably more than any state. Lots of tests in the pipeline still. Cuomo has a stick up his ass because the Governor of Florida did this same thing to New Yorkers a few months ago, forcing them to quarantine in place upon arrival for 14 days. The hilarious thing is the only people that want back into NYC from FL now are the snowbirds that came down here months ago to get away from the epicenter of the country when NYC had it bad....so he's doing a dog and pony show for the media. And contrary to the media, there are plenty of ICU beds in hospitals in the most populous areas of Florida.The one place in Florida that is the worst is Miami. No doubt about that.
Where are you getting those stat's? If you look at the weekly numbers, I see Florida at 5th highest .35/100K deaths and 3rd @ 19% /100 K for the past week.Looking at WaPo.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/2020/national/coronavirus-us-cases-deaths/?itid=hp_hp-top-table-main_tracker-bullets%3Ahomepage%2Fstory-ansHere's their disclosureData on deaths and cases comes from Post reporting and Johns Hopkins University.
Post-reported data is gathered from state sites and from county and
city sites for certain jurisdictions. Deaths are recorded on the dates
they are announced, not necessarily the dates they occur. All numbers
are provisional and may be revised by the jurisdictions.
The weekly trend uses seasonal
trend decomposition to adjust for daily fluctuations in the reported
case and death numbers. It splits reported numbers into a
day-of-the-week factor and a two-week trend, which we show on the
graphs. This allows us to account for the fact that reported numbers on
the weekend are generally lower than on weekdays.Perhaps we will need another topic soon
https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/medical/squirrel-tests-positive-for-the-bubonic-plague-in-colorado/ar-BB16ImWf?li=BBnb7Kz
"Younger patients are generally less at risk for experiencing the most serious symptoms of COVID-19, USF’s Dr. Lockwood said. As of Monday, Florida’s fatality rate had plummeted to about 1.5 percent of all cases - one of the lowest in the country."
https://www.tampabay.com/news/health/2020/07/13/florida-counts-12624-coronavirus-infections-on-monday-35-deaths/I am having a hard time with State of Iowa Stats,
This was supposed to be the official Site.
https://coronavirus.iowa.gov/
But the numbers reported in every news outlet never correlates to it or each other. The governor has changed how the data is computed, they no longer follow up, they just assume 28 day and drop them from the stats. It counts differently and when depending on the test site... This whole thing is one messed up cluster.
The news media I've come to loath: they are untrustworthy on both sides of the political spectrum.
@"StickyBun" said: The news media I've come to loath: they are untrustworthy on both sides of the political spectrum.
Where else you gonna find information, they are getting bad info too. Our Gov will say a number at a press conference and it will reflect nothing on the official web site. Wasn't the Florida epidemiologist fired for not fudging the numbers?
https://www.sun-sentinel.com/coronavirus/fl-ne-coronavirus-dashboard-creator-complains-of-secrecy-florida-20200519-jhwgp5bcdnab7ljhznd6uvdema-story.html
https://www.fox35orlando.com/news/fox-35-investigates-florida-department-of-health-says-some-labs-have-not-reported-negative-covid-19-results
The report showed that Orlando Health had a 98 percent positivity rate. However, when FOX 35 News contacted the hospital, they confirmed errors in the report. Orlando Health's positivity rate is only 9.4 percent, not 98 percent as in the report.
@"Hidalgo" said: https://www.fox35orlando.com/news/fox-35-investigates-florida-department-of-health-says-some-labs-have-not-reported-negative-covid-19-resultsThe report showed that Orlando Health had a 98 percent positivity rate. However, when FOX 35 News contacted the hospital, they confirmed errors in the report. Orlando Health's positivity rate is only 9.4 percent, not 98 percent as in the report.
I'm hearing about more of this down here in Florida. People on this board know I'm no Trump lover, but at some point you start to wonder if they are trying to stack the deck against the guy with shit like this. Now this is a Fox News station, local......so.......but its pretty disgusting if this is happening. And I say this as a person who'd like a potted plant in office more than round 2 of the Orange Cheeto.
@"StickyBun" said: The news media I've come to loath: they are untrustworthy on both sides of the political spectrum.That there are media on sides at all is the problem.
@"StickyBun" said: The news media I've come to loath: they are untrustworthy on both sides of the political spectrum.The WH is now withholding the Hospital Data from the CDC, pretty sure the New's media isn't the issue.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/trump-administration-strips-cdc-of-control-of-coronavirus-data/ar-BB16KfXB?li=BBnb7Kz
@"BigAl99" said:@"StickyBun" said: The news media I've come to loath: they are untrustworthy on both sides of the political spectrum. The WH is now withholding the Hospital Data from the CDC, pretty sure the New's media isn't the issue.https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/trump-administration-strips-cdc-of-control-of-coronavirus-data/ar-BB16KfXB?li=BBnb7Kz
Not sure your point here. Are you insinuating the media isn't biased one way or the other? I mean, you understand I think the current administration is a joke, right? They aren't mutually exclusive.
@"BigAl99" said:@"StickyBun" said: The news media I've come to loath: they are untrustworthy on both sides of the political spectrum. The WH is now withholding the Hospital Data from the CDC, pretty sure the New's media isn't the issue.https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/trump-administration-strips-cdc-of-control-of-coronavirus-data/ar-BB16KfXB?li=BBnb7Kz
Reading that article I dont get that impression, the CDC will still have access to the data, they just won't be the ones tasked with being the central reporting point for states and hospitals. Sounds like the whole reporting thing has been a shit fest to date as it is, and also according to the article, even some opposing this particular approach suggest that a change may have been necessary. Perhaps this change will be better, perhaps not, but the headline is certainly misleading IMO.
A little good news on this s hitty Covid front???
If this works, it's truly remarkable given the time since the first news was coming out of Wuhan in December.
First COVID-19 vaccine tested in US poised for final testing
“No matter how you slice this, this is good news,” Dr. Anthony Fauci, the U.S. government’s top infectious disease expert, told The Associated Press.
The experimental vaccine, developed by Fauci’s colleagues at the National Institutes of Health and Moderna Inc., will start its most important step around July 27: A 30,000-person study to prove if the shots really are strong enough to protect against the coronavirus.
But Tuesday, researchers reported anxiously awaited findings from the first 45 volunteers who rolled up their sleeves back in March. Sure enough, the vaccine provided a hoped-for immune boost.
Those early volunteers developed what are called neutralizing antibodies in their bloodstream -- molecules key to blocking infection -- at levels comparable to those found in people who survived COVID-19, the research team reported in the New England Journal of Medicine.
“This is an essential building block that is needed to move forward with the trials that could actually determine whether the vaccine does protect against infection,” said Dr. Lisa Jackson of the Kaiser Permanente Washington Research Institute in Seattle, who led the study.
There’s no guarantee but the government hopes to have results around the end of the year -- record-setting speed for developing a vaccine.
The vaccine requires two doses, a month apart.
There were no serious side effects. But more than half the study participants reported flu-like reactions to the shots that aren’t uncommon with other vaccines -- fatigue, headache, chills, fever and pain at the injection site. For three participants given the highest dose, those reactions were more severe; that dose isn’t being pursued.
Some of those reactions are similar to coronavirus symptoms but they’re temporary, lasting about a day and occur right after vaccination, researchers noted.
“Small price to pay for protection against COVID,” said Dr. William Schaffner of Vanderbilt University Medical Center, a vaccine expert who wasn’t involved with the study.
He called the early results “a good first step,” and is optimistic that final testing could deliver answers about whether it's really safe and effective by the beginning of next year.
“It would be wonderful. But that assumes everything’s working right on schedule,” Schaffner cautioned.
Moderna’s share price jumped nearly 15 percent in trading after U.S. markets closed. Shares of the company, based in Cambridge, Massachusetts, have nearly quadrupled this year.
Tuesday's results only included younger adults. The first-step testing later was expanded to include dozens of older adults, the age group most at risk from COVID-19. Those results aren't public yet but regulators are evaluating them. Fauci said final testing will include older adults, as well as people with chronic health conditions that make them more vulnerable to the virus — and Black and Latino populations likewise affected.
Nearly two dozen possible COVID-19 vaccines are in various stages of testing around the world. Candidates from China and Britain’s Oxford University also are entering final testing stages.
The 30,000-person study will mark the world’s largest study of a potential COVID-19 vaccine so far. And the NIH-developed shot isn’t the only one set for such massive U.S. testing, crucial to spot rare side effects. The government plans similar large studies of the Oxford candidate and another by Johnson & Johnson; separately, Pfizer Inc. is planning its own huge study.
Already, people can start signing up to volunteer for the different studies.
People think “this is a race for one winner. Me, I’m cheering every one of them on,” said Fauci, who directs NIH’s National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases.
“We need multiple vaccines. We need vaccines for the world, not only for our own country.”
Around the world, governments are investing in stockpiles of hundreds of millions of doses of the different candidates, in hopes of speedily starting inoculations if any are proven to work.
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California shatters record with more than 11,000 new coronavirus cases in one day https://t.co/oELya6TigN
— Los Angeles Times (@latimes) July 15, 2020
Breaking: Local public health officials can choose to keep Texas schools closed for in-person instruction this fall without risking state education funding. #txed https://t.co/Xx7V3MZuzU
— Texas Tribune (@TexasTribune) July 15, 2020
Michigan football suspends season tickets, confirms Big House could be empty this fall https://t.co/O2d3Uy6AH8
— Detroit Free Press (@freep) July 15, 2020
@"StickyBun" said:@"BigAl99" said:@"StickyBun" said: The news media I've come to loath: they are untrustworthy on both sides of the political spectrum. The WH is now withholding the Hospital Data from the CDC, pretty sure the New's media isn't the issue.https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/trump-administration-strips-cdc-of-control-of-coronavirus-data/ar-BB16KfXB?li=BBnb7Kz
Not sure your point here. Are you insinuating the media isn't biased one way or the other? I mean, you understand I think the current administration is a joke, right? They aren't mutually exclusive.
Correct, yeah they have biases but with good data you can figure it out. I have a pretty good background interpreting empirical information, and I am having real issue with what is being presented here in the US. My gut is telling me that the data is corrupt and it's not just an accident, like putting a decimal point in the wrong place, that is a real easy error to find. To me this site is the gold standardhttps://coronavirus.jhu.edu/us-map
and my State Site will not correlate till a week or so later. In Iowa our auditor is challenging the data chain. It's going to the contractor doing the testing before it is reported to the state.https://coronavirus.iowa.gov/
https://www.desmoinesregister.com/story/news/politics/2020/07/14/process-reporting-test-iowa-results-violates-law-auditor-rob-sand-says/5431414002/
Some of the stats I see you guys report about Florida don't jive with the real time mortality rates. And you had some issues with someone getting fired who was responsible for the data, early on.When I see this administration moving the data collection to a executive branch department vs a public institute for science, I get concerned somethings just might get manipulated, for political reasons.
Walmart, the nation’s largest retailer, will require face masks at all U.S. stores starting Monday https://t.co/2jz5o7d1O6
— The Washington Post (@washingtonpost) July 15, 2020
Woah! 51.2 million Americans have filed for unemployment in the past 17 weeks.
— Ana Cabrera (@AnaCabrera) July 16, 2020
Seriously, wtf is with people denying this is a real thing? How ignorant and stubborn can you be?
https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/chuck-woolery-coronavirus-son-tested-positive-214332776.html
@"StickyBun" said: Seriously, wtf is with people denying this is a real thing? How ignorant and stubborn can you be?https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/chuck-woolery-coronavirus-son-tested-positive-214332776.html
I think he meant the extent of the situation, not that the whole thing is a hoax....to some extent I agree, to much at stake here for this to all be on the up and up. So much money to be made.
@"JimmyinSD" said:@"StickyBun" said: Seriously, wtf is with people denying this is a real thing? How ignorant and stubborn can you be?https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/chuck-woolery-coronavirus-son-tested-positive-214332776.html
I think he meant the extent of the situation, not that the whole thing is a hoax....to some extent I agree, to much at stake here for this to all be on the up and up. So much money to be made.
I don't know where to begin to disagree with you on this, so I will respectively not do so.And they said I was too old to learn! :p
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