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Wow....

Yeah, DIA is never that empty. My goodness, this thing has really gotten ahold of people. But I suspect that it's going to make a far bigger dent in the global economy than the global population. 

What changes have you made? Personally, I have tickets to fly to San Francisco with my kids to see my brother in a couple of weeks. And, so far anyway, I plan to go. But I have to say I'm a little nervous about it, especially with my kids. Not as much about the virus as how people are panicking about it. A flight yesterday was rerouted to Denver because someone, um...sneezed. And I am narrowing in on some ridiculously priced tickets to Cancun in May. Am I crazy? 

“A gentleman is someone who can play the accordion, but doesn't." - Tom Waits

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Former Gophers coach Jerry Kill has now conquered the coronavirus, tooFormer Gophers football coach Jerry Kill has overcome a battle with the coronavirus, according to CBSSports.com's Dennis Dodd.
Kill, 58, is now working as a special assistant to TCU coach Gary Patterson, his good friend. In Dodd's story, Patterson cited Kill's example as a cautionary one with teams returning to campus and players testing positive for COVID-19.
" went out to dinner," Patterson told Dodd. "Everybody thinks it's about the kids coming back. It's about how you live your life doing everything else."
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Man, with all the health problems Kill has had to deal with, its amazing he was able to fend-off Covid-19.

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#1782 · Jun 30, 7:24 AM
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We're one-third of the way to a widely available coronavirus vaccine, experts say
USA TODAY created a panel of nationally known experts to estimate how far we are from when a COVID-19 vaccine will be available to all Americans.A vaccine to protect against the coronavirus will be many things wrapped up in a small vial: A harbinger of a return to normalcy, a scientific feat for the ages and, depending on when it arrives, a politically potent symbol.  
The timeline for how long it will take to get that vaccine is a moving target and depends on whom you ask – and when.
In an effort to cut through some of the hyperbole and get a realistic sense of when a widely-available vaccine will be available, USA TODAY has created a panel of nationally known experts in medicine, virology, immunology, logistics and supply chain issues to estimate how far we are from a widely available coronavirus vaccine. Every month, these experts will track progress and highlight inevitable setbacks.
If you think of it as a clock ticking from midnight (when the pandemic began) to noon (when vaccines will be widely available in the United States and life returns to something approaching normal), then as of June, the panel says it’s about 4 AM.
“The sun has not yet peeked over the horizon, but the horizon glows in the east. We are no longer in darkness,” said Dr. Kelly Moore, associate director of immunization education with the Immunization Action Coalition.
The USA TODAY vaccine panel is designed to offer readers an objective, nonpartisan understanding of how close we are to getting an effective vaccine distributed to the nation’s residents. We’re about a third of the way there, they say...
https://www.usatoday.com/in-depth/news/health/2020/06/30/covid-vaccine-progress-widely-available-coronavirus-expert-panel/3242395001/

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#1784 · Jul 1, 2:34 PM
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Some pretty awful humans in this...

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I know there was some discussion earlier on over counting or under counting and we should "wait and see" if this is real or just a media hoax.  You know that "it will be interesting" to compare expected deaths and what is being counted.  The data is starting to come in.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/health/2020/07/01/coronavirus-news-update-mike-pence-cases-fauci/5350869002/
https://www.ibtimes.com/us-coronavirus-death-toll-substantial-undercount-actual-numbers-yale-study-reveals-3004238
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/07/01/official-us-coronavirus-death-toll-is-a-substantial-undercount-of-actual-tally-new-yale-study-finds.html
https://www.newsweek.com/u-s-coronavirus-death-toll-may-higher-officially-thought-1514911
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-usa-deaths-idUSKBN2426GZ
https://www.upi.com/Health_News/2020/07/01/Official-COVID-19-count-may-underestimate-deaths-by-28-percent/4151593611972/
This take is interesting

https://www.foxnews.com/science/covid-19-pandemic-18-percent-spike-in-us-deaths-study-reveals

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#1786 · Jul 2, 8:33 AM
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Good lord, are some people just in a state of denial? Sad and also W-T-F?

Groom dies two days after Indian wedding, 80 people infected with coronavirus

New Delhi (CNN) — A groom died two days after his wedding in eastern India after becoming infected with coronavirus, with 80 people linked to the ceremony testing positive for Covid-19.
A total of 400 guests were tested after the wedding, which took place two weeks ago in Paliganj, in the state of Bihar, said Kishore Chaudhary, the chief medical officer in Patna.
Those who tested positive have been taken to a local treatment center, Chaudhary told CNN on Thursday.
The groom was sick before the wedding on June 15, according to Surendra Kumar, district official in Paliganj, and his condition was worsening.
He had traveled from Gurgaon, in the northern state of Haryana, for the wedding, Kumar told CNN. The distance between the two cities is more than 1,000 kilometers (621 miles) by road.
The family took him to a local doctor where he was given medicine, but the doctor did not flag his symptoms to the district authorities and he was not tested for coronavirus, said Kumar. "The family did not tell anyone about his poor health," he said.
The man's condition deteriorated after the wedding and the family took him to a nearby hospital, but he collapsed on the way and was declared dead on arrival, added Kumar.
https://www.cnn.com/2020/07/02/asia/india-wedding-coronavirus-infections-scli-intl/index.html

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#1787 · Jul 2, 8:45 AM
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Alabama students hold COVID-19 parties with prize for first sick personTUSCALOOSA, Ala. (NEXSTAR/AP) — Officials in an Alabama city said several college students organized “COVID-19 parties” as a contest to see who would get the virus first.

Tuscaloosa City Councilor Sonya McKinstry said students hosted the parties to intentionally infect each other with the new coronavirus. McKinstry said party organizers purposely invited guests who tested positive for COVID-19. 
“They put money in a pot, and they try to get COVID. Whoever gets COVID first gets the pot. It makes no sense,” she said, according to the New York Post.
Tuscaloosa Fire Chief Randy Smith confirmed the incidents to the City Council on Tuesday.
Smith didn’t say whether actions would be taken against the students. He also didn’t say which schools the students attend.
“It makes me furious,” McKinstry said in an interview with CNN. “Furious to the fact that something that is so serious and deadly is being taken for granted. Not only is it irresponsible, but you could contract the virus and take it home to your parents or grandparents.”
Alabama has reported about 39,000 coronavirus cases, and its death toll is approaching 1,000
https://www.kark.com/news/health/coronavirus/alabama-students-hold-covid-19-parties-with-prize-for-first-sick-person/

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I'm sorry---I've got it on the highest authority--" It's just gonna go away,  I hope."

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^^ Part II below...

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https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/medical/immunity-to-the-coronavirus-is-fragile-and-short-lived-immunologist-warns/ar-BB16oSue?li=BBnb7Kz

from the "boo/hiss" crowd,  these experts dont sound very optimistic when discussing immunity and even the potential for a long term anti virus.

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https://jbhandleyblog.com/home/2020/6/28/secondwave

This is a very informative read with a positive outlook,  filled with facts and charts to support their conclusions.  Put together by some very well educated medical professionals.  Long but well worth the read.

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@"JimmyinSD" said: https://jbhandleyblog.com/home/2020/6/28/secondwave

This is a very informative read with a positive outlook,  filled with facts and charts to support their conclusions.  Put together by some very well educated medical professionals.  Long but well worth the read.

You realize J.B. Handley is an long time antivaccine activist, right?  If you care for more information

https://sciencebasedmedicine.org/j-b-handleys-unthinking-persons-guide-to-the-covid-19-pandemic/

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@"JimmyinSD" said: https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/medical/immunity-to-the-coronavirus-is-fragile-and-short-lived-immunologist-warns/ar-BB16oSue?li=BBnb7Kz

from the "boo/hiss" crowd,  these experts dont sound very optimistic when discussing immunity and even the potential for a long term anti virus.


Thats worth a boo/hiss....

Not that this article completely dispelled the notion, but I had my doubts about herd immunity and Covid-19. I've also read where this mutates much more slowly than influenza - which is not a bad thing. 

Another whole year of this s hit and I'm going to be an even crankier F'er.  

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@"BigAl99" said:
@"JimmyinSD" said: https://jbhandleyblog.com/home/2020/6/28/secondwave

This is a very informative read with a positive outlook,  filled with facts and charts to support their conclusions.  Put together by some very well educated medical professionals.  Long but well worth the read.

You realize J.B. Handley is an long time antivaccine activist, right?  If you care for more information

https://sciencebasedmedicine.org/j-b-handleys-unthinking-persons-guide-to-the-covid-19-pandemic/



Does that make his math and the rest of the information or line of thinking wrong for certain?  I dont agree with the anti vaccer movement,  but it doesnt mean they are wrong about everything they say does it?

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@"purplefaithful" said:
@"JimmyinSD" said: https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/medical/immunity-to-the-coronavirus-is-fragile-and-short-lived-immunologist-warns/ar-BB16oSue?li=BBnb7Kz

from the "boo/hiss" crowd,  these experts dont sound very optimistic when discussing immunity and even the potential for a long term anti virus.


Thats worth a boo/hiss....

Not that this article completely dispelled the notion, but I had my doubts about herd immunity and Covid-19. I've also read where this mutates much more slowly than influenza - which is not a bad thing. 

Another whole year of this s hit and I'm going to be an even crankier F'er.  



Well read the next one,  that logic says we are near a milestone in reaching herd immunity in much of the US .

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#1798 · Jul 7, 7:31 PM
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And after months of downplaying the coronavirus that has killed 65,000 people in his country (2nd most after the USA), Brazil's president tests postive:
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/07/07/world/americas/brazil-bolsonaro-coronavirus.html?smid=tw-nytimes&smtyp=cur

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#1799 · Jul 7, 10:39 PM
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Back to the hydroxychloroquine  "debate", 

This "debate", has morphed into a weird anti=vaxxer debate....of which...I'm no part of.

"Our analysis shows that using hydroxychloroquine helped saves lives,” said neurosurgeon Dr. Steven Kalkanis, CEO, Henry Ford Medical Group and Senior Vice President and Chief Academic Officer of Henry Ford Health System. “As doctors and scientists, we look to the data for insight. And the data here is clear that there was benefit to using the drug as a treatment for sick, hospitalized patients.” 

https://www.henryford.com/news/2020/07/hydro-treatment-study

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@"JimmyinSD" said:
@"BigAl99" said:
@"JimmyinSD" said: https://jbhandleyblog.com/home/2020/6/28/secondwave

This is a very informative read with a positive outlook,  filled with facts and charts to support their conclusions.  Put together by some very well educated medical professionals.  Long but well worth the read.

You realize J.B. Handley is an long time antivaccine activist, right?  If you care for more information

https://sciencebasedmedicine.org/j-b-handleys-unthinking-persons-guide-to-the-covid-19-pandemic/



Does that make his math and the rest of the information or line of thinking wrong for certain?  I dont agree with the anti vaccer movement,  but it doesnt mean they are wrong about everything they say does it?

Pretty much, just opinion and non-peer reviewed theory, you need to just wait and see, I guess.

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