OT: Coronavirus

@"mblack" said:

You can't make this stuff up. When others were advising that it was too early to open they were called names and oh "we have to reopen the economy".

I am waiting for our all knowing president to tell us what party the governors of these states are from. The stupidity and lies of this administration knows no bounds.

@"purplefaithful" said:

@"MaroonBells" said: How is your state doing? Pretty interesting...most states now show a definitive curve that has flattened. But look at Texas, Florida, MIssissippi and Arizona. 

https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/data/new-cases-50-states

We had to re-open the economy, but some of those states really dialed it back too much at the wrong time - when key metrics were still going the wrong way.

They're paying the price now.

600 people a day are dying from Covid-19 in the US. Down from the peak of 2200 a day, but that's a daunting #, a sad one. 

Headlines here are 4 bars in Mpls and in Mankato are responsible for some major spreads. Kids going out getting drunk and carefree. Probably getting laid too - god bless em.

Personally I think local govt's need to carry a big stick against these establishments for blatantly breaking the rules. 

The insidious thing about Covid is you're not putting just yourself at risk being young and dumb, but everyone around you could be in trouble. 

Feds left it up to the States, I'm not sure legally they could re-open the country and dictate down - nor would they want the responsibility or blame that could come with that (especially in an election year)

I dont know what our good friends in FL and TX think about how well they've been managed (or not) state wise?

Here in MN, I'd give Waltz and "A" for mgmnt of a Pandemic. I'm sure there are plenty of MN's who would disagree, such is the nature of the beast. 

And I'm not afraid to give big "F's" to Dems either. Ask me what I think about how Frey handled the early days and hours after Gorge Floyd was murdered?

Or whether I agree with the zanies on the Mpls Council on many things...

Europe will bar Americans traveling from the US European Union officials confirmed on Friday that the EU would bar American travelers when it reopens its external borders on July 1, The New York Times reported.
The US is among dozens of countries deemed too risky because their coronavirus outbreaks are poorly contained, according to The Times.
Travelers from more than 12 countries outside the bloc will, however, be allowed to enter starting July 1. The full list of safe countries includes Algeria, Australia, Canada, Georgia, Japan, Montenegro, Morocco, New Zealand, Rwanda, Serbia, South Korea, Thailand, Tunisia, Uruguay, Andorra, San Marino, Monaco, and the Vatican, according to The Times.
China will also be included, as long as China allows European Union visitors.
The list has been finalized and will be released officially next week, The Times reported. Reports of the list emerged earlier this week.
According to The Times, the list has been backed by most countries' EU ambassadors but still must be formalized by member states and the central EU government.
While member states will not be legally required to abide by the list, those that do not could see other EU states close their borders to them, which would inhibit their participation in the EU's recovering economy.
Some countries with economies that are especially dependent on tourism are expected to allow more foreigners by implementing health-screening protocols for arriving visitors.
Exceptions will be granted for essential workers, including healthcare workers and diplomats, as well as students, asylum seekers, and others, The Times reported.
The inclusion of the US on the list of banned countries represents a major blow to America's image on the global stage and undermines the Trump administration's claims that the US outbreak is under control. The US has recorded more than 2.4 million coronavirus cases and 124,000 deaths, more than any other country.
In early March, the Trump administration banned travel to the US from much of Europe, citing outbreaks in Italy, Germany, and elsewhere in the EU. The prohibition has not been lifted, even though Europe has largely contained its outbreaks.
The European border closure, which came later in March, applied to visitors from most countries outside the bloc, not specifically Americans.
The safe list will be reviewed every two weeks and include countries with rates of new cases that are the same or lower than the EU's. The primary benchmark is the EU's average number of new infections per 100,000 people over the past two weeks. For the EU, that number is 16. For the US, it's 107.
Other criteria for inclusion on the list include the credibility of a country's public-health reporting.
Prohibiting American travelers will have significant consequences for the EU. Millions of US tourists visit countries in the bloc each year. As travel demand recovers and Americans seek to venture abroad again — and as economies normally reliant on tourism seek to curb the fallout from the pandemic — the exclusion of a large and lucrative group of tourists could be damaging.
Similarly, European leisure travelers spend millions in the US each year. The US could leave its ban on travel from Europe in place as retaliation.

https://www.businessinsider.com/europe-travel-ban-americans-eu-coronavirus-final-2020-6

@"purplefaithful" said: Europe will bar Americans traveling from the US European Union officials confirmed on Friday that the EU would bar American travelers when it reopens its external borders on July 1, The New York Times reported. The US is among dozens of countries deemed too risky because their coronavirus outbreaks are poorly contained, according to The Times. Travelers from more than 12 countries outside the bloc will, however, be allowed to enter starting July 1. The full list of safe countries includes Algeria, Australia, Canada, Georgia, Japan, Montenegro, Morocco, New Zealand, Rwanda, Serbia, South Korea, Thailand, Tunisia, Uruguay, Andorra, San Marino, Monaco, and the Vatican, according to The Times. China will also be included, as long as China allows European Union visitors. The list has been finalized and will be released officially next week, The Times reported. Reports of the list emerged earlier this week. According to The Times, the list has been backed by most countries' EU ambassadors but still must be formalized by member states and the central EU government. While member states will not be legally required to abide by the list, those that do not could see other EU states close their borders to them, which would inhibit their participation in the EU's recovering economy. Some countries with economies that are especially dependent on tourism are expected to allow more foreigners by implementing health-screening protocols for arriving visitors. Exceptions will be granted for essential workers, including healthcare workers and diplomats, as well as students, asylum seekers, and others, The Times reported. The inclusion of the US on the list of banned countries represents a major blow to America's image on the global stage and undermines the Trump administration's claims that the US outbreak is under control. The US has recorded more than 2.4 million coronavirus cases and 124,000 deaths, more than any other country. In early March, the Trump administration banned travel to the US from much of Europe, citing outbreaks in Italy, Germany, and elsewhere in the EU. The prohibition has not been lifted, even though Europe has largely contained its outbreaks. The European border closure, which came later in March, applied to visitors from most countries outside the bloc, not specifically Americans. The safe list will be reviewed every two weeks and include countries with rates of new cases that are the same or lower than the EU's. The primary benchmark is the EU's average number of new infections per 100,000 people over the past two weeks. For the EU, that number is 16. For the US, it's 107. Other criteria for inclusion on the list include the credibility of a country's public-health reporting. Prohibiting American travelers will have significant consequences for the EU. Millions of US tourists visit countries in the bloc each year. As travel demand recovers and Americans seek to venture abroad again — and as economies normally reliant on tourism seek to curb the fallout from the pandemic — the exclusion of a large and lucrative group of tourists could be damaging. Similarly, European leisure travelers spend millions in the US each year. The US could leave its ban on travel from Europe in place as retaliation.

https://www.businessinsider.com/europe-travel-ban-americans-eu-coronavirus-final-2020-6

@"mblack" said:

This is some funny irony. I don't blame them

Yeah my daughter and son in-law were planning on coming mid July from Germany, don't think that's gonna happen.  Totally different mind set over there,  she sent pictures of a party they went to, like three or four couples, each had their own food and drink tables, every thing planned to be safe and a lot of fun.

@"purplefaithful" said:

@"mblack" said:

@"purplefaithful" said: Europe will bar Americans traveling from the US European Union officials confirmed on Friday that the EU would bar American travelers when it reopens its external borders on July 1, The New York Times reported. The US is among dozens of countries deemed too risky because their coronavirus outbreaks are poorly contained, according to The Times. Travelers from more than 12 countries outside the bloc will, however, be allowed to enter starting July 1. The full list of safe countries includes Algeria, Australia, Canada, Georgia, Japan, Montenegro, Morocco, New Zealand, Rwanda, Serbia, South Korea, Thailand, Tunisia, Uruguay, Andorra, San Marino, Monaco, and the Vatican, according to The Times. China will also be included, as long as China allows European Union visitors. The list has been finalized and will be released officially next week, The Times reported. Reports of the list emerged earlier this week. According to The Times, the list has been backed by most countries' EU ambassadors but still must be formalized by member states and the central EU government. While member states will not be legally required to abide by the list, those that do not could see other EU states close their borders to them, which would inhibit their participation in the EU's recovering economy. Some countries with economies that are especially dependent on tourism are expected to allow more foreigners by implementing health-screening protocols for arriving visitors. Exceptions will be granted for essential workers, including healthcare workers and diplomats, as well as students, asylum seekers, and others, The Times reported. The inclusion of the US on the list of banned countries represents a major blow to America's image on the global stage and undermines the Trump administration's claims that the US outbreak is under control. The US has recorded more than 2.4 million coronavirus cases and 124,000 deaths, more than any other country. In early March, the Trump administration banned travel to the US from much of Europe, citing outbreaks in Italy, Germany, and elsewhere in the EU. The prohibition has not been lifted, even though Europe has largely contained its outbreaks. The European border closure, which came later in March, applied to visitors from most countries outside the bloc, not specifically Americans. The safe list will be reviewed every two weeks and include countries with rates of new cases that are the same or lower than the EU's. The primary benchmark is the EU's average number of new infections per 100,000 people over the past two weeks. For the EU, that number is 16. For the US, it's 107. Other criteria for inclusion on the list include the credibility of a country's public-health reporting. Prohibiting American travelers will have significant consequences for the EU. Millions of US tourists visit countries in the bloc each year. As travel demand recovers and Americans seek to venture abroad again — and as economies normally reliant on tourism seek to curb the fallout from the pandemic — the exclusion of a large and lucrative group of tourists could be damaging. Similarly, European leisure travelers spend millions in the US each year. The US could leave its ban on travel from Europe in place as retaliation.

https://www.businessinsider.com/europe-travel-ban-americans-eu-coronavirus-final-2020-6

This is some funny irony. I don't blame them

It is, but who can blame em at this point?

Those were some terrible s hit shows in Italy, Spain, UK....

Just heard from my daughter, American airline just announced a change in their policy, not sure if it just international, they are now booking 100% flight capacity.  Delta is maintaining 60% capacity till September. What the market will bear, I guess.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/brucelee/2020/06/28/american-united-airlines-will-go-back-to-packing-flights-despite-covid-19-coronavirus/#f7201623f307

@"BigAl99" said:

Just heard from my daughter, American airline just announced a change in their policy, not sure if it just international, they are now booking 100% flight capacity.  Delta is maintaining 60% capacity till September. What the market will bear, I guess. https://www.forbes.com/sites/brucelee/2020/06/28/american-united-airlines-will-go-back-to-packing-flights-despite-covid-19-coronavirus/#f7201623f307

This might have gotten lost in all the news yesterday.
Delta Airlines says 500 of their employees have COVID and 10 have died so far.
So who will be dumb enough to fly now?https://t.co/47Rlt5Ty2a

— 🌊BLUE DEM FOREVER🌊 (@PattiUSBLUE) June 25, 2020

Twins coaches Bob McClure, 68, and Bill Evers, 66, sidelined for seasonThe team is taking precautions because of the COVID-19 epidemic.Citing health and safety concerns related to the COVID-19 pandemic, the Twins will not allow bullpen coach Bob McClure and major league coach Bill Evers to work games this year, according to a source with knowledge of the decisions.

Pete Maki, the minor league pitching coordinator, is in line to step in as the new bullpen coach, while Evers’ role is expected to be filled in the near future.
The decision came after the Twins examined the health histories of their staff members, taking age and any existing conditions into account.
McClure, 68, was entering his first season as bullpen coach, replacing Jeremy Hefner, who was hired as the Mets pitching coach. McClure, who spent the previous two seasons as the organization’s senior adviser to pitching development, has twin 8-year-old sons.
Evers, 66, was entering his second season as a major league coach after spending 23 seasons with the Rays organization, the last two as minor league field coordinator. He was Joe Maddon’s bench coach in 2006 and 2007 while Twins manager Rocco Baldelli played for the Rays.
Both McClure and Evers will remain on the payroll, possibly contributing in some advisory capacity
https://www.startribune.com/twins-coaches-bob-mcclure-68-and-bill-evers-66-sidelined-for-season/571529672/

For those wondering:

• Mike Zimmer is 64
• Gary Kubiak is 58
• Dom Capper is 69
• Andre Patterson is 60
• Rick Dennison is 62
• Kenny Polamalu is 56
• Brian Pariani is 54

https://www.vikings.com/team/coaches-roster/

As some areas of the country see spikes in the number of coronavirus cases, Allegheny County in Pennsylvania is closing its bars. https://t.co/nHSNnjCvFu

— fox8news (@fox8news) June 28, 2020

Manager told here she had to keep her mask on pic.twitter.com/onlbaFCJ4O

— Omar Guillen (@MelodicQuest) June 27, 2020

*Starts researching immigration requirements for Canada*

Idiots ruining it for everyone else, part 78,463:
https://twitter.com/DaveHolmes/status/1277349657929117696

Dimwits and idiots abound in this country. I'm always surprised just how dumb people can be. The anger some have towards others wearing a mask is obscene. Ignorant red asses. 

@"StickyBun" said: Dimwits and idiots abound in this country. I'm always surprised just how dumb people can be. The anger some have towards others wearing a mask is obscene. Ignorant red asses. 

hell some of the "masks" that we have seen are so poorly constructed or made of materials that dont stop shit that its really hard to take some wearers serious.  I do like how the fashion people are getting in on the "designer" masks some of them are pretty stylish, even if they arent really preventing much.

@"StickyBun" said: Dimwits and idiots abound in this country. I'm always surprised just how dumb people can be. The anger some have towards others wearing a mask is obscene. Ignorant red asses. 

If you're in a store, walgreens, 7-11 buying your lotto tix? Wear a f ing mask for everyone elses sake. 

Human beings can really suck at times...

Yep, if you can't do it right, don't even try.  We should just wait and see if the masks are gonna work.