OT: Coronavirus
Wow....
I’ve flown in and out of Denver Airport roughly 50 times. I’ve never seen it empty like this.
Yeah, DIA is never that empty. My goodness, this thing has really gotten ahold of people. But I suspect that it's going to make a far bigger dent in the global economy than the global population.
What changes have you made? Personally, I have tickets to fly to San Francisco with my kids to see my brother in a couple of weeks. And, so far anyway, I plan to go. But I have to say I'm a little nervous about it, especially with my kids. Not as much about the virus as how people are panicking about it. A flight yesterday was rerouted to Denver because someone, um...sneezed. And I am narrowing in on some ridiculously priced tickets to Cancun in May. Am I crazy?
“A gentleman is someone who can play the accordion, but doesn't." - Tom Waits
@"Hidalgo" said:No doubt there is discrepancy in the data and the wrong people will profit. Now is the order of magnitude of over-reporting mean there is really 900? 800? 750? 612 people dying per day instead?@"purplefaithful" said:We have had 7 COVID deaths this year in the county I live in in Illinois. Families of 6 of those 7 have contacted their state rep saying their family member DID NOT die of COVID and they want the records changed. There's gold in them there COVID deaths. Where there is money, there is enough greed to falsify the truth.anyone really believe this country is doing a good job??? The US has reported more than 1,000 coronavirus deaths nearly every day in August The United States has reported more than 1,000 new deaths from coronavirus 16 out of the past 20 days, according to Johns Hopkins University and the Covid Tracking Project.On Saturday, Johns Hopkins University reported 1,029 new deaths.
As of 8 a.m. ET, there are 5,361,613 cases of coronavirus and 169,489 deaths in the US.What about the potential for under-reporting?
Either way we cut it, it's still s hit show and it's probably not just 10 or 12 or 200 or 300.
@"Hidalgo" said:@"purplefaithful" said:anyone really believe this country is doing a good job??? The US has reported more than 1,000 coronavirus deaths nearly every day in August The United States has reported more than 1,000 new deaths from coronavirus 16 out of the past 20 days, according to Johns Hopkins University and the Covid Tracking Project.On Saturday, Johns Hopkins University reported 1,029 new deaths.
As of 8 a.m. ET, there are 5,361,613 cases of coronavirus and 169,489 deaths in the US.
We have had 7 COVID deaths this year in the county I live in in Illinois. Families of 6 of those 7 have contacted their state rep saying their family member DID NOT die of COVID and they want the records changed. There's gold in them there COVID deaths. Where there is money, there is enough greed to falsify the truth.Interesting, any link's to the story or data?
so will it get accepted as a possible treatment now that an esteemed Yale professor is backing its use and the WaPo is allowing it to be published?
EDIT: My bad, not the WaPo, the examiner.
@"JimmyinSD" said: https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/hydroxychloroquine-works-in-high-risk-patients-and-saying-otherwise-is-dangerousso will it get accepted as a possible treatment now that an esteemed Yale professor is backing its use and the WaPo is allowing it to be published?
Its not hard to get one person, scientist or doctor, to agree with almost anything. And that isn't the Washington Post, its the Washington Examiner...BIG difference:
The Washington Examiner is an American conservative news website and weekly magazine based in Washington, D.C. It is owned by MediaDC, a subsidiary of Clarity Media Group, which is owned by Philip Anschutz.
@"StickyBun" said:@"JimmyinSD" said: https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/hydroxychloroquine-works-in-high-risk-patients-and-saying-otherwise-is-dangerousso will it get accepted as a possible treatment now that an esteemed Yale professor is backing its use and the WaPo is allowing it to be published?
Its not hard to get one person, scientist or doctor, to agree with almost anything. And that isn't the Washington Post, its the Washington Examiner...BIG difference:The Washington Examiner is an American conservative news website and weekly magazine based in Washington, D.C. It is owned by MediaDC, a subsidiary of Clarity Media Group, which is owned by Philip Anschutz.
my bad on the DC copy, but the fact is its not just one doctor, its more and more, I am not saying it works, just that it was so quickly dismissed and fervently attacked it just rang wrong for me. I can understand when a crack pot witch doctor advocates for it, but when more esteemed sources say its viable ( including stories of some that normally stand against it politically) I am still wondering why it was shuttered so quickly. the history of the drugs use and how cheap it is just baffle me as to how quickly people were screaming about how it was bad.
@"JimmyinSD" said:@"StickyBun" said:@"JimmyinSD" said: https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/hydroxychloroquine-works-in-high-risk-patients-and-saying-otherwise-is-dangerousso will it get accepted as a possible treatment now that an esteemed Yale professor is backing its use and the WaPo is allowing it to be published?
Its not hard to get one person, scientist or doctor, to agree with almost anything. And that isn't the Washington Post, its the Washington Examiner...BIG difference:The Washington Examiner is an American conservative news website and weekly magazine based in Washington, D.C. It is owned by MediaDC, a subsidiary of Clarity Media Group, which is owned by Philip Anschutz.
my bad on the DC copy, but the fact is its not just one doctor, its more and more, I am not saying it works, just that it was so quickly dismissed and fervently attacked it just rang wrong for me. I can understand when a crack pot witch doctor advocates for it, but when more esteemed sources say its viable ( including stories of some that normally stand against it politically) I am still wondering why it was shuttered so quickly. the history of the drugs use and how cheap it is just baffle me as to how quickly people were screaming about how it was bad.
I agree, its certainly possible it helps alleviate symptoms in certain patients. I think the issue was that there MIGHT be some pluses to it but then Trump talked about it as a cure and over exaggerated like he loves to do and then it became something the Left wanted to discredit fully. I had a friend of ours tell us that it was indeed a CURE and that if people would just take it, we'd all be fine. This was one day AFTER Trump lauded it on TV. That's where the danger lies: there are a lot of idiots in this country. You exaggerate or outright lie about a drug's potential as the POTUS and people die because of it. Dumbshits stop believing in science and medicine and start believing their Facebook feeds.
@"StickyBun" said:@"JimmyinSD" said:@"StickyBun" said:@"JimmyinSD" said: https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/hydroxychloroquine-works-in-high-risk-patients-and-saying-otherwise-is-dangerousso will it get accepted as a possible treatment now that an esteemed Yale professor is backing its use and the WaPo is allowing it to be published?
Its not hard to get one person, scientist or doctor, to agree with almost anything. And that isn't the Washington Post, its the Washington Examiner...BIG difference:The Washington Examiner is an American conservative news website and weekly magazine based in Washington, D.C. It is owned by MediaDC, a subsidiary of Clarity Media Group, which is owned by Philip Anschutz.
my bad on the DC copy, but the fact is its not just one doctor, its more and more, I am not saying it works, just that it was so quickly dismissed and fervently attacked it just rang wrong for me. I can understand when a crack pot witch doctor advocates for it, but when more esteemed sources say its viable ( including stories of some that normally stand against it politically) I am still wondering why it was shuttered so quickly. the history of the drugs use and how cheap it is just baffle me as to how quickly people were screaming about how it was bad.
I agree, its certainly possible it helps alleviate symptoms in certain patients. I think the issue was that there MIGHT be some pluses to it but then Trump talked about it as a cure and over exaggerated like he loves to do and then it became something the Left wanted to discredit fully. I had a friend of ours tell us that it was indeed a CURE and that if people would just take it, we'd all be fine. This was one day AFTER Trump lauded it on TV. That's where the danger lies: there are a lot of idiots in this country. You exaggerate or outright lie about a drug's potential as the POTUS and people die because of it. Dumbshits stop believing in science and medicine and start believing their Facebook feeds.
there is certainly those people, but regardless if the president said it or their local pot dealer tells them they only need weed to cure all their ills theres always those people will try shit regardless of who says it (Barr and I happen to share a theory on those folks) ... I just think that the media and the politicians needs to quit using this as a weapon and realize that while they are playing their usual game that people are dying as a result. some want to scream at those that do/dont wear masks as the ones killing people out in public, but then they drink up this slanted politicized shit. Its gone to far from both extremes and its this election that is unnecessarily killing people IMO.
If there was some peer reviewed, results it would make it of interest. The initial study from France that was retracted kinda left a stain on it. Why are conservitives so willing to jump on the science of this drug, but consider the science behind global warming to be such a hoax.
@"BigAl99" said:@"Hidalgo" said:@"purplefaithful" said:anyone really believe this country is doing a good job??? The US has reported more than 1,000 coronavirus deaths nearly every day in August The United States has reported more than 1,000 new deaths from coronavirus 16 out of the past 20 days, according to Johns Hopkins University and the Covid Tracking Project.On Saturday, Johns Hopkins University reported 1,029 new deaths.
As of 8 a.m. ET, there are 5,361,613 cases of coronavirus and 169,489 deaths in the US.
We have had 7 COVID deaths this year in the county I live in in Illinois. Families of 6 of those 7 have contacted their state rep saying their family member DID NOT die of COVID and they want the records changed. There's gold in them there COVID deaths. Where there is money, there is enough greed to falsify the truth.Interesting, any link's to the story or data?
No links, first hand knowledge
Just watched the news and there is a report that the state has been miscalculating the new cases, skewing the daily cases lower. I have been saying for weeks the data did not support the reported stats. The total cases are correct but the daily rate has been shifted lower. Corona Kim strikes again!
Posted: Aug 17, 2020 / 02:39 PM CDT
/ Updated: Aug 17, 2020 / 02:39 PM CDT
DES MOINES, Iowa (AP) — A state agency says it is working to fix a
data error on Iowa’s coronavirus website that lowers the number of new
confirmed cases and therefore downplays the severity of the current
outbreak, just as schools are deciding whether to reopen.
The glitch means the
Iowa Department of Public Health has inadvertently been reporting fewer
new infections and a smaller percentage of daily positive tests than is
truly the case, according to Dana Jones, an Iowa City nurse
practitioner who uncovered the problem. It’s particularly significant
because school districts are relying on state data to determine whether
they will offer in-person instruction when school resumes in the coming
days and weeks.
https://who13.com/news/coronavirus/horrifying-data-glitch-skews-key-iowa-coronavirus-metrics/
Update: It's worse than initially reported, they are also not counting any Antigen tests, which some hospitals are using.
100% you knew this was going to happen. 100 PERCENT. Wait until the first old, fat professor dies because of interaction with COVID kids.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/virus-clusters-erupt-us-universities-191025071.html
@"StickyBun" said: 100% you knew this was going to happen. 100 PERCENT. Wait until the first old, fat professor dies because of interaction with COVID kids.https://www.yahoo.com/news/virus-clusters-erupt-us-universities-191025071.html
Just remember any bus drivers you had, oh well, someone will know this stuff.
@"StickyBun" said: 100% you knew this was going to happen. 100 PERCENT. Wait until the first old, fat professor dies because of interaction with COVID kids.https://www.yahoo.com/news/virus-clusters-erupt-us-universities-191025071.html
Student housing, packed bars, off-campus parties...Oh to be 20 again.
Hilarity will not ensue unfortunately. I really feel for these parents who've been put in the position of having to choose between the college experience vs stay @ home a year.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/says-people-20s-30s-40s-032612850.html
I think we are past the point of when things went horribly wrong. Too many bad and non-decisions, we have met the enemy and he is us
https://news.yahoo.com/coronavirus-doctors-battle-another-scourge-121627704.html
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