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2024 QB Watch

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NFL Rookie Watch@NFLRookieWatxhThe potential 2024 QB draft class absolutely showed OUT in week one.
This QB class could be the best the NFL has EVER seen.
Caleb Williams (USC): 18/24, 319 passing yards, 5 TD’s
Drake Maye (UNC): 24/32, 269 yards, 2 TD’s, 2 INT’s
Shedeur Sanders (Colorado): 38/47, 510 yards (led country), 4 TD’s
Michael Penix Jr. (UW): 29/40, 450 yards, 5 TD’s
Quinn Ewers (Texas): 19/30, 260 yards, 3 TD’s
JJ McCarthy (Michigan): 26/30, 280 yards, 3 TD’s
Bo Nix (Oregon): 23/27, 287 yards, 3 TD’s
Riley Leonard (Duke): 17/33, 175 yards, 98 rushing yards, 1 TD
Spencer Rattler (SC): 30/39, 353 yards
Joe Milton (Tennessee): 21/30, 201 yards, 4 total TD’s
Jordan Travis (FSU): 23/31, 342 yards, 5 total TD’s
And only ONE of these QB’s came away with a loss 

#1 · Sep 5, 12:13 PM
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I see in today's media, the coaches get blamed for their stars not performing. Lol. 

#42 · Nov 7, 7:10 AM
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I'm still a big McCarthy fan, but one kid who's growing on me is Bo Nix. This kid has a lot of qualities that seem to mesh well with what KOC would want in this offense. He's accurate, mobile, got a live arm, seems to process things well. I liked him last year but it seems he's taken another step up this season.

I'm not too fond of how old he'll be (24 next season), but it seems quite a few college QB's have begun coming out later recently, including guys like Burrow, Pickett, and Levis.

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Half way through the season we are sitting at 20 in the draft order. So how many QB-needy teams are drafting ahead of us? 
Arizona? maybe. They are at the 1 spot now so that will be a QB either by Az or by trade.
Chicago? Very possible. Unless you think they are sticking with Fields.
Chicago again. Trade this to a team that wants a QB or take Harrison, Jr.
Giants? Jones just tore an ACL. Put them down for a QB.
NE? Their Jones kinda sucks, too. They need a QB.
Rams? Stafford should be about done. Draft a QB
GB? Let's assume they stick with Love despite what Gutekunst said.
TB? You think they want to stick with Baker? Draft a QB.
Denver? Can Russ still cook? Take a QB.

So that is just the first 9 selections. It does not include Atlanta, Las Vegas, NYJ, or N.O.

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@"dadevike" said: Half way through the season we are sitting at 20 in the draft order. So how many QB-needy teams are drafting ahead of us?  Arizona? maybe. They are at the 1 spot now so that will be a QB either by Az or by trade. Chicago? Very possible. Unless you think they are sticking with Fields. Chicago again. Trade this to a team that wants a QB or take Harrison, Jr. Giants? Jones just tore an ACL. Put them down for a QB. NE? Their Jones kinda sucks, too. They need a QB. Rams? Stafford should be about done. Draft a QB GB? Let's assume they stick with Love despite what Gutekunst said. TB? You think they want to stick with Baker? Draft a QB. Denver? Can Russ still cook? Take a QB.

So that is just the first 9 selections. It does not include Atlanta, Las Vegas, NYJ, or N.O.


Yep. If MIN wants a QB they're going to have to find a team willing to move down quite a bit, and outbid other teams also looking to move up. The cost is going to be very high and it's frankly something I'm trying not to think about because I want to enjoy any wins that come our way in 2023.

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@"pattersaur" said:
@"dadevike" said: Half way through the season we are sitting at 20 in the draft order. So how many QB-needy teams are drafting ahead of us?  Arizona? maybe. They are at the 1 spot now so that will be a QB either by Az or by trade. Chicago? Very possible. Unless you think they are sticking with Fields. Chicago again. Trade this to a team that wants a QB or take Harrison, Jr. Giants? Jones just tore an ACL. Put them down for a QB. NE? Their Jones kinda sucks, too. They need a QB. Rams? Stafford should be about done. Draft a QB GB? Let's assume they stick with Love despite what Gutekunst said. TB? You think they want to stick with Baker? Draft a QB. Denver? Can Russ still cook? Take a QB.

So that is just the first 9 selections. It does not include Atlanta, Las Vegas, NYJ, or N.O.


Yep. If MIN wants a QB they're going to have to find a team willing to move down quite a bit, and outbid other teams also looking to move up. The cost is going to be very high and it's frankly something I'm trying not to think about because I want to enjoy any wins that come our way in 2023.

The good news is it shouldn't cost much to move up say 20 spots.  Just swap some 2s around and 3s. Maybe Chicago would be willing to do it since they're in our division?

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@"pattersaur" said:
@"dadevike" said: Half way through the season we are sitting at 20 in the draft order. So how many QB-needy teams are drafting ahead of us?  Arizona? maybe. They are at the 1 spot now so that will be a QB either by Az or by trade. Chicago? Very possible. Unless you think they are sticking with Fields. Chicago again. Trade this to a team that wants a QB or take Harrison, Jr. Giants? Jones just tore an ACL. Put them down for a QB. NE? Their Jones kinda sucks, too. They need a QB. Rams? Stafford should be about done. Draft a QB GB? Let's assume they stick with Love despite what Gutekunst said. TB? You think they want to stick with Baker? Draft a QB. Denver? Can Russ still cook? Take a QB.

So that is just the first 9 selections. It does not include Atlanta, Las Vegas, NYJ, or N.O.


Yep. If MIN wants a QB they're going to have to find a team willing to move down quite a bit, and outbid other teams also looking to move up. The cost is going to be very high and it's frankly something I'm trying not to think about because I want to enjoy any wins that come our way in 2023.

Simple solution;Just follow the example that the Lions set in the first round of the 2022 draft.

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IF KC can move up to #12 for Mahomes, the Vikings can make a move if they have enough conviction on a kid...I'd love to see how they stack their board come April. 

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Apparently there are some in the Vikes organization who are big JJ fans (for whatever reason I can't embed Tweets but that's what the tweet/video refers to).

"I think there's a better chance today than there was two Sunday mornings ago that Kirk Cousins is back"   -
@DWolfsonKSTP on the direction that the #Vikings will go at QB in 2024

#49 · Nov 7, 3:30 PM
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@"FLVike" said:
@"pattersaur" said:
@"dadevike" said: Half way through the season we are sitting at 20 in the draft order. So how many QB-needy teams are drafting ahead of us?  Arizona? maybe. They are at the 1 spot now so that will be a QB either by Az or by trade. Chicago? Very possible. Unless you think they are sticking with Fields. Chicago again. Trade this to a team that wants a QB or take Harrison, Jr. Giants? Jones just tore an ACL. Put them down for a QB. NE? Their Jones kinda sucks, too. They need a QB. Rams? Stafford should be about done. Draft a QB GB? Let's assume they stick with Love despite what Gutekunst said. TB? You think they want to stick with Baker? Draft a QB. Denver? Can Russ still cook? Take a QB.

So that is just the first 9 selections. It does not include Atlanta, Las Vegas, NYJ, or N.O.


Yep. If MIN wants a QB they're going to have to find a team willing to move down quite a bit, and outbid other teams also looking to move up. The cost is going to be very high and it's frankly something I'm trying not to think about because I want to enjoy any wins that come our way in 2023.

Simple solution;Just follow the example that the Lions set in the first round of the 2022 draft.



Yeah, but do a better job of drafting once you get there. 

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Per Schefter, college juniors who have declared for the draft are now allowed to play in the year end college all-star games traditionally reserved for Seniors (Shrine Bowl, Senior Bowl, etc). Interesting shake up

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@"pattersaur" said:
@"dadevike" said: Half way through the season we are sitting at 20 in the draft order. So how many QB-needy teams are drafting ahead of us?  Arizona? maybe. They are at the 1 spot now so that will be a QB either by Az or by trade. Chicago? Very possible. Unless you think they are sticking with Fields. Chicago again. Trade this to a team that wants a QB or take Harrison, Jr. Giants? Jones just tore an ACL. Put them down for a QB. NE? Their Jones kinda sucks, too. They need a QB. Rams? Stafford should be about done. Draft a QB GB? Let's assume they stick with Love despite what Gutekunst said. TB? You think they want to stick with Baker? Draft a QB. Denver? Can Russ still cook? Take a QB.

So that is just the first 9 selections. It does not include Atlanta, Las Vegas, NYJ, or N.O.


Yep. If MIN wants a QB they're going to have to find a team willing to move down quite a bit, and outbid other teams also looking to move up. The cost is going to be very high and it's frankly something I'm trying not to think about because I want to enjoy any wins that come our way in 2023.


those 8-9 wins sure are fun.

#52 · Nov 8, 4:14 PM
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Lots of talent coming out....

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@"supafreak84" said: Per Schefter, college juniors who have declared for the draft are now allowed to play in the year end college all-star games traditionally reserved for Seniors (Shrine Bowl, Senior Bowl, etc). Interesting shake up
Wow, that's huge. 
#54 · Nov 9, 9:49 AM
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@"MaroonBells" said:
@"supafreak84" said: Per Schefter, college juniors who have declared for the draft are now allowed to play in the year end college all-star games traditionally reserved for Seniors (Shrine Bowl, Senior Bowl, etc). Interesting shake up
Wow, that's huge. 
Not sure if this was an NCAA decision or an NFL one but it's smart if they want to get more eyeballs on the game from casual fans. More eyes = more money of course.
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@"MaroonBells" said:
@"supafreak84" said: Per Schefter, college juniors who have declared for the draft are now allowed to play in the year end college all-star games traditionally reserved for Seniors (Shrine Bowl, Senior Bowl, etc). Interesting shake up
Wow, that's huge. 
It will certainly increase the roster talent in those games. I guess the downside is less roster spots for the small college seniors looking to make an impression with NFL Scouts like a Quinn Meinerz. Just further proof though that college football has gone into a full on business mode model and tradition is a thing of the past if it doesn't fit into the money narrative. 
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#57 · Nov 9, 8:03 PM
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Just not seeing it with Bryce Young. 

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@"PurpleCrush" said: https://twitter.com/SKORNorth/status/1721980338514153630?s=20
Been saying this all along. After some in the media were saying this may have been Cousins last snap with the Vikings, some of us argued that Cousins' injury makes it more likely he's back, not less.

A healthy Cousins would likely get a top of market deal. I don't know that the Vikings would be competitors in that. But because of the injury, Cousins will be halfway through his recovery when these negotiations take place. IOW, he will not be able to prove he's ready to go. That should keep his price down. 

Vikings might also think the '24 team can be a legit Super Bowl contender if they bring key pieces back like Cousins and Hunter.

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I think if the 49'ers net out after this season that Purdy isnt their guy, they could go hard after Cousins. 

 Lots of ifs to go, but since we're in speculating mode...

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@"purplefaithful" said: I think if the 49'ers net out after this season that Purdy isnt their guy, they could go hard after Cousins. 

 Lots of ifs to go, but since we're in speculating mode...


True. So many huge, defining decisions to be made by the Vikings in the next 6 months. 

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