2024 QB Watch

I know this is echoing some recent conjecture but after doing a little studying myself, I would not be surprised to see Jayden Daniels push Caleb Williams to be the top overall pick when all is said and done. I think at the very least it's likely he pushes Maye out of that second spot. Just eye staggering numbers put up against SEC competition both with his arm and legs. Accurate (72%), throws the deep ball with nice touch, can make all the throws, and runs like RG3 escaping the pocket. His numbers dwarfed that of Caleb Williams. 

@"supafreak84" said: I know this is echoing some recent conjecture but after doing a little studying myself, I would not be surprised to see Jayden Daniels push Caleb Williams to be the top overall pick when all is said and done. I think at the very least it's likely he pushes Maye out of that second spot. Just eye staggering numbers put up against SEC competition both with his arm and legs. Accurate (72%), throws the deep ball with nice touch, can make all the throws, and runs like RG3 escaping the pocket. His numbers dwarfed that of Caleb Williams. 

@"supafreak84" said: I know this is echoing some recent conjecture but after doing a little studying myself, I would not be surprised to see Jayden Daniels push Caleb Williams to be the top overall pick when all is said and done. I think at the very least it's likely he pushes Maye out of that second spot. Just eye staggering numbers put up against SEC competition both with his arm and legs. Accurate (72%), throws the deep ball with nice touch, can make all the throws, and runs like RG3 escaping the pocket. His numbers dwarfed that of Caleb Williams. 

if the nock on a QB is the he "is a system guy",  then why dont more teams draft a college stud and then put him in a system that plays to his strengths?  weve kind of seen that the last couple games with Dobbs where he is killing it as a back yard QB,  but the game plan changes to try and accentuate the coaches preference.   I have heard for 20 years that bellicheats success was his ability to cater to his QBs strength....so why is it so hard to find a game plan that plays to Dobbs, Halls, or  potentially even  Penix's south paw game? 

@"supafreak84" said: I know this is echoing some recent conjecture but after doing a little studying myself, I would not be surprised to see Jayden Daniels push Caleb Williams to be the top overall pick when all is said and done. I think at the very least it's likely he pushes Maye out of that second spot. Just eye staggering numbers put up against SEC competition both with his arm and legs. Accurate (72%), throws the deep ball with nice touch, can make all the throws, and runs like RG3 escaping the pocket. His numbers dwarfed that of Caleb Williams. 

@"MaroonBells" said:

@"supafreak84" said: I know this is echoing some recent conjecture but after doing a little studying myself, I would not be surprised to see Jayden Daniels push Caleb Williams to be the top overall pick when all is said and done. I think at the very least it's likely he pushes Maye out of that second spot. Just eye staggering numbers put up against SEC competition both with his arm and legs. Accurate (72%), throws the deep ball with nice touch, can make all the throws, and runs like RG3 escaping the pocket. His numbers dwarfed that of Caleb Williams. 

Yep, said that a few days ago. Physically, he's the kind of robo-QB NFL teams will salivate over. And that's only going to increase after he wins the Heisman and does his thing at the combine.

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@"supafreak84" said: For what it's worth, Kiper's recent QB draft rankings;

1. Caleb Williams
2. Drake Maye
3. Shedeur Sanders
4. Jayden Daniel's 
5. Bo Nix
6. Carson Beck
7. JJ McCarthy
8. Michael Penix Jr
9. Michael Pratt
10. Spencer Rattler 

Wow, Sanders that high? I guess I need to watch more of him, but the odds of him coming out are really low. I agree with Kiper on Penix tho. Given his injuries, I'd be really surprised if he went in 1st round. 

Remember all those QBs who were regularly mocked at the top of the 1st round of their drafts only to go in the 2nd, 3rd or 4th? Fromm, Clausen, Mallett...I think Penix could be that guy this year. 

ESPN did a Q&A with Kiper, Matt Miller, and Field Yates regarding draft questions (which is where I pulled Kipers comments on McCarthy). They all have Sanders 3rd, along with many scouts they've talked to, but they do not expect him to declare. He'll likely stay to help save Dad's reputation after Colorado sank this year.

It's in Sanders best interest to declare for the draft. He was pummeled behind that OL this year & Colorado won't be able to fix it with a single recruiting class.

And just like that Colorado landed a 5 star tackle yesterday and have reportedly brought in former Viking Phil Loadholt to be the new offensive line coach;

https://www.si.com/college/2023/12/07/colorado-deion-sanders-hires-phil-loadholt-offensive-line-coach

I'm still rolling with JJ or Nix. I liked Fields coming out of college, but it'd be hard for me to wipe the stench of Chicago off of him.

Good to see Loadholt get the gig, after his playing career was cut short by injury. In fact, he's still 4 years younger than the still-playing-somehow Jason Peters. 

But just looking at those 14/15 depth charts, godDAMN those were crap offenses. Mike Wallace and Charles Johnson at WR, Kalil, Charlie Johnson into Brandon Fusco, the mysterious Mike Harris and TJ Clemmings starting at RT after Loady retired and the Vikings gave Andre Smith a go. Yuck. 

@"MaroonBells" said: Good to see Loadholt get the gig, after his playing career was cut short by injury. In fact, he's still 4 years younger than the still-playing-somehow Jason Peters. 

But just looking at those 14/15 depth charts, godDAMN those were crap offenses. Mike Wallace and Charles Johnson at WR, Kalil, Charlie Johnson into Brandon Fusco, the mysterious Mike Harris and TJ Clemmings starting at RT after Loady retired and the Vikings gave Andre Smith a go. Yuck. 

@"PurpleCrush" said: I'm still rolling with JJ or Nix. I liked Fields coming out of college, but it'd be hard for me to wipe the stench of Chicago off of him.

@"pattersaur" said:

@"MaroonBells" said: Good to see Loadholt get the gig, after his playing career was cut short by injury. In fact, he's still 4 years younger than the still-playing-somehow Jason Peters. 

But just looking at those 14/15 depth charts, godDAMN those were crap offenses. Mike Wallace and Charles Johnson at WR, Kalil, Charlie Johnson into Brandon Fusco, the mysterious Mike Harris and TJ Clemmings starting at RT after Loady retired and the Vikings gave Andre Smith a go. Yuck. 

Minnesota Mike Wallace made Bernard Berrian look like Terrell Owens. Laughs… cries. 

@"supafreak84" said:

@"PurpleCrush" said: I'm still rolling with JJ or Nix. I liked Fields coming out of college, but it'd be hard for me to wipe the stench of Chicago off of him.

I get some Colt McCoy vibes from Nix. Wide range of opinions on him 

So long dreams of Jayden to JJ.
I still like quite a few of the others though, will be an interesting March and April.

Matt Miller at ESPN released his new mock draft today. He's got this for the QB's;

1. Bears- Caleb Williams
2. Patriots- Drake Maye
4. Giants- Jayden Daniel's
7. Raiders- JJ McCarthy

And in what would be the most Viking move ever, he has the us taking Clemson cornerback Nate Wiggins with the 22nd pick. 

@"supafreak84" said: Matt Miller at ESPN released his new mock draft today. He's got this for the QB's;

1. Bears- Caleb Williams
2. Patriots- Drake Maye
4. Giants- Jayden Daniel's
7. Raiders- JJ McCarthy

And in what would be the most Viking move ever, he has the us taking Clemson cornerback Nate Wiggins with the 22nd pick. 

@"kmillard" said:

@"supafreak84" said: Matt Miller at ESPN released his new mock draft today. He's got this for the QB's;

1. Bears- Caleb Williams
2. Patriots- Drake Maye
4. Giants- Jayden Daniel's
7. Raiders- JJ McCarthy

And in what would be the most Viking move ever, he has the us taking Clemson cornerback Nate Wiggins with the 22nd pick. 

That will most likely be the pick. And Viking nation will justify it somehow.

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@"kmillard" said:

@"supafreak84" said: Matt Miller at ESPN released his new mock draft today. He's got this for the QB's;

1. Bears- Caleb Williams
2. Patriots- Drake Maye
4. Giants- Jayden Daniel's
7. Raiders- JJ McCarthy

And in what would be the most Viking move ever, he has the us taking Clemson cornerback Nate Wiggins with the 22nd pick. 

That will most likely be the pick. And Viking nation will justify it somehow.

From the pick range, to the position drafted, to the school drafted from....standard Vikings 

@"StickyBun" said:

@"supafreak84" said:

@"kmillard" said:

@"supafreak84" said: Matt Miller at ESPN released his new mock draft today. He's got this for the QB's;

1. Bears- Caleb Williams
2. Patriots- Drake Maye
4. Giants- Jayden Daniel's
7. Raiders- JJ McCarthy

And in what would be the most Viking move ever, he has the us taking Clemson cornerback Nate Wiggins with the 22nd pick. 

That will most likely be the pick. And Viking nation will justify it somehow.

From the pick range, to the position drafted, to the school drafted from....standard Vikings 

Honest to God, I'll lose my fucking mind if they draft a CB. I think the odds are extremely low that happens. 

Caleb Williams and Marvin Harrison Jr/DJ Moore looks formidable on paper. Maybe not year 1 but if those rookies are the real deal Chicago is going to be a problem for a while. If they decide to really load up on offense and draft a rookie RB to jump in there, plus Kmet who’s solid at TE and Mooney who seems like a great field stretcher number 3, an offense-focused Bears squad would be a big deviation from the norm for them.

And yeah I almost don’t care if CB is where the “value” is. DL and OL are much more pressing for us. 4 QBs going in the top 10 means we’re going to have to trade up probably just to get the 5th or even 6th best QB if we want one. That sucks. 

EDIT- I shouldn’t say 5th or 6th “best” because anything can happen but I mean 5th or 6th off the board. 

@"StickyBun" said:

@"supafreak84" said:

@"kmillard" said:

@"supafreak84" said: Matt Miller at ESPN released his new mock draft today. He's got this for the QB's;

1. Bears- Caleb Williams
2. Patriots- Drake Maye
4. Giants- Jayden Daniel's
7. Raiders- JJ McCarthy

And in what would be the most Viking move ever, he has the us taking Clemson cornerback Nate Wiggins with the 22nd pick. 

That will most likely be the pick. And Viking nation will justify it somehow.

From the pick range, to the position drafted, to the school drafted from....standard Vikings 

Honest to God, I'll lose my fucking mind if they draft a CB. I think the odds are extremely low that happens.