OT: Coronavirus

Each Virus is different this is not MERS or it would have been able to be treated like MERS.  Not to state the obvious or anything.

An Infectious disease expert "corrects" some statements about a Pandemic from a real estate developer and the attempt now is to throw the expert under the bus.  

The obvious is he touted it for a similar virus before testing was complete.  

He should have admitted that this drug has been successful for past coronavirus diseases.  

He can be cautious ... and also push for this drug to be used.  

Weird.  We should deny terminally ill patients drugs that worked on similar viruses and have huge success rates with this one.

Also of note - pneumonia and flu deaths are way down.  Apparently people that die with those diseases are being included in coronavirus deaths. 

Similar is not the same, take it you don't have a background in medicine or biology.

Hahaha 

The fucking drug works!  Italy, China and Spain use it.

We now use it. 

Now most doctors use it.  Unless their governors disallow it.

Science goes out the window with the terminally ill.  

Tell me when the successes are enough from you to accept the use. 

I bet you would request it if you are in the hospital with it!

I believe the Surgeon General said something (very recently) to the effect of he'd be comfortable using some of these medications for the terminally ill.

Thats far from an endorsement of anything for the masses. Not without scientific based evidence the positive effect outweighs any potential negative. 

Are our best medical minds watching France, China and Italy - and still reaching that conclusion as of today? That seems to be the case. 

Wasn't it back in Gerald Ford's era that they put therapeutics out there and it was a disaster? Was it H1n1? Swine Flu? I dont recall. But too many people were dying, they pulled it and then of course you had the subsequent lawsuits.

@"purplefaithful" said: I believe the Surgeon General said something to the effect of he'd be comfortable using some of these medications for the terminally ill.

Thats far from an endorsement of anything for the masses. Not without scientific based evidence the positive effect outweighs any potential negative. 

Are our best medical minds watching France, China and Italy - and still reaching that conclusion as of today? That seems to be the case. 

Wasn't it back in Gerald Ford's era that they put therapeutics out there and it was a disaster? Was it H1n1? Swine Flu? I dont recall. But too many people were dying, they pulled it and then of course you had the subsequent lawsuits.

The drug has been approved already by FDA and assessed as low risk. 

China, France, Italy, Spain, and the US use this drug successfully.  

@"A1Janitor" said:

@"purplefaithful" said: I believe the Surgeon General said something to the effect of he'd be comfortable using some of these medications for the terminally ill.

Thats far from an endorsement of anything for the masses. Not without scientific based evidence the positive effect outweighs any potential negative. 

Are our best medical minds watching France, China and Italy - and still reaching that conclusion as of today? That seems to be the case. 

Wasn't it back in Gerald Ford's era that they put therapeutics out there and it was a disaster? Was it H1n1? Swine Flu? I dont recall. But too many people were dying, they pulled it and then of course you had the subsequent lawsuits.

France already showed 100% success rates for the drugs when Trump praised it. 

The drug has been approved already by FDA and assessed as low risk. 

China, France, Italy, Spain, and the US use this drug successfully.  

@"minny65" said: An Infectious disease expert "corrects" some statements about a Pandemic from a real estate developer and the attempt now is to throw the expert under the bus.  

Deaths over past few days dropping "for the first time" in New York, governor says

@"purplefaithful" said:

@"A1Janitor" said:

@"purplefaithful" said: I believe the Surgeon General said something to the effect of he'd be comfortable using some of these medications for the terminally ill.

Thats far from an endorsement of anything for the masses. Not without scientific based evidence the positive effect outweighs any potential negative. 

Are our best medical minds watching France, China and Italy - and still reaching that conclusion as of today? That seems to be the case. 

Wasn't it back in Gerald Ford's era that they put therapeutics out there and it was a disaster? Was it H1n1? Swine Flu? I dont recall. But too many people were dying, they pulled it and then of course you had the subsequent lawsuits.

France already showed 100% success rates for the drugs when Trump praised it. 

The drug has been approved already by FDA and assessed as low risk. 

China, France, Italy, Spain, and the US use this drug successfully.  

You're leaving out an important element - a biggie.  

Where's the proof the FDA assessed it as low risk for Covid-19 for use for mass population? Maybe that's coming, and that would be wonderful. But I haven't seen it yet. 

Political ideologies aside, we're all hoping and waiting for the same thing. 

@"purplefaithful" said:

Deaths over past few days dropping "for the first time" in New York, governor says

The number of deaths over the past few days has been dropping “for the first time," New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo said today during a press conference. The significance of that is “too early to tell” he added. Cuomo added that ICU admissions are also down, daily intubations are down “slightly” and the hospital discharge rate is ��way up” and that’s “great news.” He said there is a "shift to Long Island" adding "upstate New York is basically flat… as Long Island grows the percentage of cases in NYC has reduced." The total number of intubations are down across the state, Cuomo said.  As of April 4, there were about 316 people intubated in the hospital, that number is down from 351 reported the day before.

Shirley Sessions, Mayor of Tybee Island, issued a statement blasting Gov. Kemp’s order. pic.twitter.com/kkJLSjPAs6

— Everything Georgia (@GAFollowers) April 4, 2020

@"A1Janitor" said:

@"purplefaithful" said:

Deaths over past few days dropping "for the first time" in New York, governor says

The number of deaths over the past few days has been dropping “for the first time," New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo said today during a press conference. The significance of that is “too early to tell” he added. Cuomo added that ICU admissions are also down, daily intubations are down “slightly” and the hospital discharge rate is ��way up” and that’s “great news.” He said there is a "shift to Long Island" adding "upstate New York is basically flat… as Long Island grows the percentage of cases in NYC has reduced." The total number of intubations are down across the state, Cuomo said.  As of April 4, there were about 316 people intubated in the hospital, that number is down from 351 reported the day before.

I saw information that indicates flu and pneumonia deaths are way down too.  Also people that die with the disease are included in deaths from the disease - which isn’t necessarily the same. Apparently Italy is recalculating the numbers. 

 
Nice to other States being United and helping New York!  Yes even Mass/Kraft/Patriots :)

Washington will return more than 400 of the 500 ventilators it recently received from the federal government, so they can go to New York and other states harder hit by the coronavirus crisis, Gov. Jay Inslee said Sunday.
After requesting 1,000 ventilators from the Strategic National Stockpile, Washington last month received 500.
The National Stockpile ventilators are not suitable for treating COVID-19 patients, state officials said. That’s because those individuals generally need a higher amount of pressure support into their lungs than the ventilators from the national stockpile can provide, said Jessica Baggett, a spokeswoman for the state’s Joint Information Center.
The stockpile ventilators, though, can be used for other patients, freeing up more COVID-19 compatible ventilators to help with the crisis.
The decision to return the ventilators comes five weeks after the first coronavirus death in Washington, when Inslee declared a state of emergency. It offers a glimmer of hope that the drastic steps the state has taken since then — shutting down schools and nonessential businesses and grinding daily life to a halt — have helped forestall the bleakest possible outcomes.

Oregon Gov. Kate Brown announced this morning she is sending 140 ventilators to a stricken New York, where COVID-19 cases have overwhelmed the hospital system.

"New York needs more ventilators, and we are answering their call for help," Brown wrote on Twitter this morning. "We'll be sending 140 ventilators to help NY because Oregon is in a better position right now. We must do all that we can to help those on the front lines of this response."

Ventilators are machines that help people breathe who can no longer do so on their own. New York has suffered 3,565 deaths from COVID-19, 2,624 in New York City, and is poised to run out of ventilators as soon as next week. On Friday, Gov. Andrew Cuomo ordered the seizure of ventilators for upstate hospitals to aid New York City, where Mayor Bill de Blasio warned the ventilator supply could be exhausted by Monday.

Oregon is not nearly so depleted: It has 899 COVID-19 cases and 21 deaths. As of Wednesday, less than 40 people were on ventilators, and the state had about 700 machines left. (The Oregon Health Authority hasn't updated its numbers for the past two days.)

The 140 machines match the number of ventilators Oregon received from the federal government last week.

New England Patriots deliver 300K life-saving masks to New York

By Brian Niemietz

New York Daily News | Apr 03, 2020 | 7:12 PM

The Patriots were welcome in New York for a change, or at least their truck was.(CBS Boston)

Does this mean we have to stop booing the New England Patriots?

A much-needed shipment of 300,000 N95 masks arrived in New York City Friday morning, courtesy of Patriots owner Robert Kraft.

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“Give them to the city of New York just to try to bring them some hope and goodwill,” Kraft told CNN.

The frequently vilified head honcho of the six-time Super Bowl champs sent his personal plane, emblazoned with his team logo, to retrieve 1.7 million masks from Shenzen, China this week. That Boeing 767 touched down with 1.2 million masks Thursday and is going back for the rest soon..

Apparently Trump’s friends ... Kraft and the owner of the Brooklyn Nets ... stepped up.

Some of the owners are paying all of
their workers.

And baseball announced players will receive their checks.  I have seen several who are donating their checks to help.

Pretty cool how some of these people are helping. 

On twitter I saw Sharyl Attkinson gave away 1,000 to the first 100 people that emailed her.  Great idea - cool if it went viral.  

@"A1Janitor" said: Apparently Trump’s friends ... Kraft and the owner of the Brooklyn Nets ... stepped up.

Some of the owners are paying all of
their workers.

And baseball announced players will receive their checks.  I have seen several who are donating their checks to help.

Pretty cool how some of these people are helping. 

On twitter I saw Sharyl Attkinson gave away 1,000 to the first 100 people that emailed her.  Great idea - cool if it went viral.  

Trump when asked  mentioned he talked to two friends who were stepping forward to help NY.  He wouldn’t mention it further and let it come out days later.

I am sorry this has harmed you.  You will be ok.  

Now tell me were Hollyweird is on this.  Other than the douchebags outting down Trump like Milano, Kathy Griffen et al.

Hahaha ilovebigtds disliked my post about people stepping up.  Apparenly we only cheer when the left does it.   Weird.  

Another sports owner - not Trump’s friend - also stepped up and is paying all workers.  Good guy.  

Some reporter suggested to Trump that he shutdown all businesses, including grocery stores.

Brilliant.