OT: Coronavirus

@"MaroonBells" said: For what it's worth, my ex girlfriend is a forensic pathologist (think Quincy), so she gets a lot of information about what the state of Colorado is expecting. She said Colorado's peak is expected to be April 17 with 2300 deaths. Right now we're at about 100 deaths, so that gives you an idea of the trajectory of this thing. 

This is what Fauci and Birx are talking about on a national level...And even what the emperor has parroted in their own way. Next two weeks are going to be one hell of a bad time and probably a bit longer time frame for West Coast. 

Its tragic and hard to process at times (for me anyways). The bulk of death hasn't happened yet - and it's inevitable. 

So, what's everyone doing for lunch today? Tuna or PB&J???  :p

  Treatment of the symptoms is one thing, but controlling the spread is the goal of that policy.  One does not supplant the other, there are gonna be a lot of things we can do, whether or not we do it will define "our" sucess.

The U.S. Navy has relieved Capt. Brett Crozier of his command of the USS Theodore Roosevelt after he wrote a scathing letter that criticized the management of a coronavirus outbreak that’s sickened over 100 crew members. https://t.co/YDdZv8SrC7

— NPR (@NPR) April 2, 2020

@"purplefaithful" said:

@"MaroonBells" said: For what it's worth, my ex girlfriend is a forensic pathologist (think Quincy), so she gets a lot of information about what the state of Colorado is expecting. She said Colorado's peak is expected to be April 17 with 2300 deaths. Right now we're at about 100 deaths, so that gives you an idea of the trajectory of this thing. 

This is what Fauci and Birx are talking about on a national level...And even what the emperor has parroted in their own way. Next two weeks are going to be one hell of a bad time and probably a bit longer time frame for West Coast. 

Its tragic and hard to think about the bulk of death hasn't happened yet - and it's inevitable. 

So, what's everyone doing for lunch today? Tuna or PB&J???  :p

@"Vikergirl" said: https://twitter.com/NPR/status/1245843768269471747?s=19

He sent that letter in un-secured channels is my understanding. Thats a big protocol breach. 

Did he have the safety of his crew in his heart when he did? Probably. 

He also probably knew how he sent it meant leaks to the press. I know I'm making some big assumptions here. 

Did he compromise natl security doing so? I think it could be argued yes and no. That carrier is a pretty big stick and letting everyone know it's potentially compromised from being 100%???

signs of the virus some may not know about.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/health-news/6-mild-symptoms-of-coronavirus-you-shouldnt-ignore-according-to-doctors/ar-BB125K5Y?li=BBnbfcL

What are the mild symptoms of novel coronavirus?In the WHO report, the organization analyzes nearly 56,000 cases of COVID-19 in China and breaks down a wide range of “typical” symptoms, as well as how often people with the virus experienced them:

• Fever (87.9%)
• Dry cough (67.7%)
• Fatigue (38.1%)
• Sputum production (33.4%)
• Shortness of breath (18.6%)
• Sore throat (13.9%)
• Headache (13.6%)
• Muscle aches and pains (14.8%)
• Chills (11.4%)
• Nausea or vomiting (5.0%)
• Nasal congestion (4.8%)
• Diarrhea (3.7%)
• Coughing up blood (0.9%)
• Red eyes (0.8%)

@"purplefaithful" said:

@"Vikergirl" said: https://twitter.com/NPR/status/1245843768269471747?s=19

He sent that letter in un-secured channels is my understanding. Thats a big protocol breach. 

Did he have the safety of his crew in his heart when he did? Probably. 

He also probably knew how he sent it meant leaks to the press. I know I'm making some big assumptions here. 

Did he compromise natl security doing so? I think it could be argued yes and no. That carrier is a pretty big stick and letting everyone know it's potentially compromised from being 100%???

@"JimmyinSD" said:

@"purplefaithful" said:

@"Vikergirl" said: https://twitter.com/NPR/status/1245843768269471747?s=19

He sent that letter in un-secured channels is my understanding. Thats a big protocol breach. 

Did he have the safety of his crew in his heart when he did? Probably. 

He also probably knew how he sent it meant leaks to the press. I know I'm making some big assumptions here. 

Did he compromise natl security doing so? I think it could be argued yes and no. That carrier is a pretty big stick and letting everyone know it's potentially compromised from being 100%???

I agree,   there is something about doing the wrong thing for the right reasons that still means that there will be consequences for those actions.   I applaud him taking extreme measures to protect his crew,  but by doing so he opened up that crew and many more for potential harm.

https://wgntv.com/news/coronavirus/104-year-old-wwii-veteran-recovers-from-covid-19-celebrates-birthday/

@"JimmyinSD" said:

@"purplefaithful" said:

@"Vikergirl" said: https://twitter.com/NPR/status/1245843768269471747?s=19

He sent that letter in un-secured channels is my understanding. Thats a big protocol breach. 

Did he have the safety of his crew in his heart when he did? Probably. 

He also probably knew how he sent it meant leaks to the press. I know I'm making some big assumptions here. 

Did he compromise natl security doing so? I think it could be argued yes and no. That carrier is a pretty big stick and letting everyone know it's potentially compromised from being 100%???

I agree,   there is something about doing the wrong thing for the right reasons that still means that there will be consequences for those actions.   I applaud him taking extreme measures to protect his crew,  but by doing so he opened up that crew and many more for potential harm.

@"purplefaithful" said:

@"JimmyinSD" said:

@"purplefaithful" said:

@"Vikergirl" said: https://twitter.com/NPR/status/1245843768269471747?s=19

He sent that letter in un-secured channels is my understanding. Thats a big protocol breach. 

Did he have the safety of his crew in his heart when he did? Probably. 

He also probably knew how he sent it meant leaks to the press. I know I'm making some big assumptions here. 

Did he compromise natl security doing so? I think it could be argued yes and no. That carrier is a pretty big stick and letting everyone know it's potentially compromised from being 100%???

I agree,   there is something about doing the wrong thing for the right reasons that still means that there will be consequences for those actions.   I applaud him taking extreme measures to protect his crew,  but by doing so he opened up that crew and many more for potential harm.

I'm not sure which of his communique's got sent un-secured. But I suspect the veteran commander knew exactly what he was doing when he did it. 

Oh boy, not a bright move...

No, Sapulpa Public Schools students are not going to have to repeat a gradeA previous story that Sapulpa Times published on Wednesday morning—and then pulled almost immediately—is still gaining enough attention that we’re now publishing a separate story to clear up the confusion: No, Sapulpa students are not going to have to repeat their grade next year.
The story was not endorsed by, approved by, or even known about by any of the Sapulpa Schools Administration when it went live on Wednesday morning, but SPS are the ones now having to deal with frantic parents and angry teachers.
The story was meant as an innocent April Fools’ Day joke and was an attempt to draw some humor into a time where it’s sorely needed. In hindsight, publishing the story was a mistake and the joke was not funny to a lot of the anxious parents and teachers who are dealing with preparing for distance learning next week. We sincerely apologize for any grief or stress the story may have caused.
Now, what’s not a joke is that yes, Sapulpa Public Schools is starting their Distance Learning program on Monday, April 6th. You may have questions about that. SPS has prepared a webpage that answers many of those most frequently asked questions. You can see it here.
https://sapulpatimes.com/no-sapulpa-public-schools-students-are-not-going-to-have-to-repeat-a-grade/

Encarnacion Buisan brought some cheer in a city hospital in Huesca, Spain, as she beat the coronavirus infection and celebrated her 101st birthday. Follow for live updates https://t.co/6WDDkH6xXl pic.twitter.com/S4FMNpsT0U

— Reuters (@Reuters) April 3, 2020

@"purplefaithful" said:

@"JimmyinSD" said:

@"purplefaithful" said:

@"Vikergirl" said: https://twitter.com/NPR/status/1245843768269471747?s=19

He sent that letter in un-secured channels is my understanding. Thats a big protocol breach. 

Did he have the safety of his crew in his heart when he did? Probably. 

He also probably knew how he sent it meant leaks to the press. I know I'm making some big assumptions here. 

Did he compromise natl security doing so? I think it could be argued yes and no. That carrier is a pretty big stick and letting everyone know it's potentially compromised from being 100%???

I agree,   there is something about doing the wrong thing for the right reasons that still means that there will be consequences for those actions.   I applaud him taking extreme measures to protect his crew,  but by doing so he opened up that crew and many more for potential harm.

Obviously a vocal crew has strong feelings:

@"JimmyinSD" said:

@"purplefaithful" said:

@"JimmyinSD" said:

@"purplefaithful" said:

@"Vikergirl" said: https://twitter.com/NPR/status/1245843768269471747?s=19

He sent that letter in un-secured channels is my understanding. Thats a big protocol breach. 

Did he have the safety of his crew in his heart when he did? Probably. 

He also probably knew how he sent it meant leaks to the press. I know I'm making some big assumptions here. 

Did he compromise natl security doing so? I think it could be argued yes and no. That carrier is a pretty big stick and letting everyone know it's potentially compromised from being 100%???

I agree,   there is something about doing the wrong thing for the right reasons that still means that there will be consequences for those actions.   I applaud him taking extreme measures to protect his crew,  but by doing so he opened up that crew and many more for potential harm.

Obviously a vocal crew has strong feelings:

apparently the social distancing movement to control the spread of the disease hasnt been extended to the USN?

Mayo to lead national COVID-19 plasma trialDoctors believe plasma can give immune system boost to COVID-19 patients and help beat back the coronavirus that causes it.
Mayo Clinic announced Friday it is leading a national trial to use donated plasma from patients who have recovered from COVID-19 as a treatment therapy for others infected by the novel coronavirus that causes the illness.
The cooperative effort with 40 institutions in 20 states could verify a vital treatment, given that nobody has immunity against the coronavirus that has quickly spread across the globe. Administered in a handful of U.S. cases already, plasma from recovered COVID-19 patients could provide immune system boosts to others with the illness.
"Theoretically, it gives them an antibody boost, which should help them clear the virus," said Dr. Michael Joyner, the Mayo doctor leading the program.
Joyner said hospitalized patients will be targeted for the therapy, but not just those with the worst symptoms in intensive care. Immune system overreactions could actually be hurting some of these patients, meaning that plasma therapy could be ineffective or even harmful in such cases.
"Certainly in patients that are extremely ill in the ICU, this is a possibility," Joyner said. "The thought is that historically this type of therapy (in other conditions) has been most effective when used relatively early in the course of disease as people are getting sicker and sicker.
"We're going to have people trying it for different indications but I think that rescue therapy (for severe cases) is going to be an area where it's probably going to be relatively less effective."
As of Friday afternoon, Minnesota reported 789 lab-confirmed COVID-19 cases, including 156 people needing hospital care and 62 needing intensive care.
Given the rapid increase in hospitalized patients predicted throughout the country, interest in this experimental option could likely exceed availability, Joyner said.
The U.S. Food and Drug Administration formally approved the program on Friday after giving initial approval March 24 for plasma therapy as a COVID-19 treatment
https://www.startribune.com/mayo-clinic-to-lead-national-covid-19-plasma-trial-coronavirus-treatment-minnesota/569355782/

@"purplefaithful" said: Mayo to lead national COVID-19 plasma trialDoctors believe plasma can give immune system boost to COVID-19 patients and help beat back the coronavirus that causes it. Mayo Clinic announced Friday it is leading a national trial to use donated plasma from patients who have recovered from COVID-19 as a treatment therapy for others infected by the novel coronavirus that causes the illness. The cooperative effort with 40 institutions in 20 states could verify a vital treatment, given that nobody has immunity against the coronavirus that has quickly spread across the globe. Administered in a handful of U.S. cases already, plasma from recovered COVID-19 patients could provide immune system boosts to others with the illness. "Theoretically, it gives them an antibody boost, which should help them clear the virus," said Dr. Michael Joyner, the Mayo doctor leading the program. Joyner said hospitalized patients will be targeted for the therapy, but not just those with the worst symptoms in intensive care. Immune system overreactions could actually be hurting some of these patients, meaning that plasma therapy could be ineffective or even harmful in such cases. "Certainly in patients that are extremely ill in the ICU, this is a possibility," Joyner said. "The thought is that historically this type of therapy (in other conditions) has been most effective when used relatively early in the course of disease as people are getting sicker and sicker. "We're going to have people trying it for different indications but I think that rescue therapy (for severe cases) is going to be an area where it's probably going to be relatively less effective." As of Friday afternoon, Minnesota reported 789 lab-confirmed COVID-19 cases, including 156 people needing hospital care and 62 needing intensive care. Given the rapid increase in hospitalized patients predicted throughout the country, interest in this experimental option could likely exceed availability, Joyner said. The U.S. Food and Drug Administration formally approved the program on Friday after giving initial approval March 24 for plasma therapy as a COVID-19 treatment https://www.startribune.com/mayo-clinic-to-lead-national-covid-19-plasma-trial-coronavirus-treatment-minnesota/569355782/

at this point IMO any realistic or logical approach supported by a proven, reputable medical facility should be given the green light for trials.  yes it could lead to more deaths in some failed instances,  but delaying does that as well.

Do yourself a favor: watch the PBS documentary on the Mayo Clinic, came out a few years ago. Its amazing. That PLACE is amazing. 

@"StickyBun" said: Do yourself a favor: watch the PBS documentary on the Mayo Clinic, came out a few years ago. Its amazing. That PLACE is amazing. 

we are very spoiled up here in the midwest with the medical facilities that we have within a few hours drive for most of us.   The heart hospitals in Sioux Falls are excellent,  the U hospital in the Cities is fantastic as well,  and the Mayo just sets the bar for the rest of the worlds health care facilities.  ( I have also heard that Fargo has one of the top 5 brain surgeons in the world up there but I have no use for him so I have never confirmed that claim :p ) 

Quarantine prank