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Wow....

Yeah, DIA is never that empty. My goodness, this thing has really gotten ahold of people. But I suspect that it's going to make a far bigger dent in the global economy than the global population. 

What changes have you made? Personally, I have tickets to fly to San Francisco with my kids to see my brother in a couple of weeks. And, so far anyway, I plan to go. But I have to say I'm a little nervous about it, especially with my kids. Not as much about the virus as how people are panicking about it. A flight yesterday was rerouted to Denver because someone, um...sneezed. And I am narrowing in on some ridiculously priced tickets to Cancun in May. Am I crazy? 

“A gentleman is someone who can play the accordion, but doesn't." - Tom Waits

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@"JimmyinSD" said:
@"BarrNone55" said: The other side of this thing seems like an unseen distant shore.
lie to  yourself.... focusing/obsessing on the unobtainable can lead to severe depression.

look for little victories to give yourself a sense of accomplishment and something to build hope off from.

2 weeks ago I bet everybody in here thought they would die if their lives were disrupted like they have been,  but here we are 2 weeks later and still the same bickering bunch of bitches that we've always been.   different topic,  but still bitches none the less.  little victories.


Jimmy, good words of wisdom.  I try to focus on the positives that happen every day from stories of tremendous sacrifice and ingenuity.  Faith, family and friends are my priorities.  The people of the USA are a pretty resilient bunch.  Or as John Winger (aka Bill Murray) said in Stripes:

 "We're all very different people. We're not Watusi. We're not Spartans. We're Americans, with a capital 'A', huh? You know what that means? Do ya? That means that our forefathers were kicked out of every decent country in the world. We are the wretched refuse. We're the underdog. We're mutts! Here's proof: his nose is cold! But there's no animal that's more faithful, that's more loyal, more loveable than the mutt."

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Dr. Stephen Smith, founder of The Smith Center for Infectious Diseases and Urban Health, said on “The Ingraham Angle” on Wednesday night that he is optimistic about the use of antimalarial medications and antibiotics to treat COVID-19patients, calling it “a game-changer.”
“I think this is the beginning of the end of the pandemic. I’m very serious,” Smith, an infectious disease specialist, told host Laura Ingraham.
Currently there is no known cure for the coronavirus pandemic ravaging the globe.
Smith, who is treating 72 COVID-19 patients, said that he has been treating "everybody with hydroxychloroquine and azithromycin . We’ve been doing so for a while.”
He pointed out that not a single COVID-19 patient of his that has been on the hydroxychloroquine and azithromycin regimen for five days or more has had to be intubated.
“The chance of that occurring by chance, according to my sons Leon and Hunter who did some stats for me, are .000-something,” he said, adding that “it’s ridiculously low."
Smith explained that “intubation means actually putting a tube down into your trachea and then you’re placed on the ventilator for respiratory support.”
The Food and Drug Administration recently announced an emergency-use authorization for several drugs, including hydroxychloroquine and chloroquine, despite a lack of clear evidence of their effectiveness.
A study published earlier this month by French researchers suggested that COVID-19 patients could be treated with antimalarial medication and antibiotics in the battle against the novel coronavirus. 
Smith noted on Wednesday that he thinks his data supports the French study.
“Now you actually have an intra-cohort comparison saying that this regimen works,” he told Ingraham.

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Hahaha Washington Post

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The interview with Governor Cuomo and his brother Chris is a good thing to see. The sibling rivalry is funny but to see the exchange of information about Coronavirus is good. Chris is discussing how it is impacting his life. It is good to hear from people in this thread share their personal experiences with it. It's important to let people know the impact. Glad you are doing better Z. Hang in there Havoc. 

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@"StickyBun" said: So who I know directly or indirectly that has COVID-19:
  • A friend's Dad in Port St. Lucie, FL. On a ventilator, but word is he should be ok. Was on a cruise. 
  • A friend in San Diego who went out, partied and didn't do a damn thing right. She's sick right now
  • My son has 2 friends in Boulder that both have it (a couple) and he thinks he got it at Google-Boulder. They are young and barely showing symptoms. 
Sadly and tragically, my buddy's Dad from Port St. Lucie had a stroke on the ventilator and has a DNR. RIP. Be safe out there. 
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@"StickyBun" said:
@"StickyBun" said: So who I know directly or indirectly that has COVID-19:
  • A friend's Dad in Port St. Lucie, FL. On a ventilator, but word is he should be ok. Was on a cruise. 
  • A friend in San Diego who went out, partied and didn't do a damn thing right. She's sick right now
  • My son has 2 friends in Boulder that both have it (a couple) and he thinks he got it at Google-Boulder. They are young and barely showing symptoms. 
Sadly and tragically, my buddy's Dad from Port St. Lucie had a stroke on the ventilator and has a DNR. RIP. Be safe out there. 
Oh man that's tough. Sorry to hear that. 
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@"StickyBun" said:
@"StickyBun" said: So who I know directly or indirectly that has COVID-19:
  • A friend's Dad in Port St. Lucie, FL. On a ventilator, but word is he should be ok. Was on a cruise. 
  • A friend in San Diego who went out, partied and didn't do a damn thing right. She's sick right now
  • My son has 2 friends in Boulder that both have it (a couple) and he thinks he got it at Google-Boulder. They are young and barely showing symptoms. 
Sadly and tragically, my buddy's Dad from Port St. Lucie had a stroke on the ventilator and has a DNR. RIP. Be safe out there. 
Crap.  
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@"StickyBun" said:
@"StickyBun" said: So who I know directly or indirectly that has COVID-19:
  • A friend's Dad in Port St. Lucie, FL. On a ventilator, but word is he should be ok. Was on a cruise. 
  • A friend in San Diego who went out, partied and didn't do a damn thing right. She's sick right now
  • My son has 2 friends in Boulder that both have it (a couple) and he thinks he got it at Google-Boulder. They are young and barely showing symptoms. 
Sadly and tragically, my buddy's Dad from Port St. Lucie had a stroke on the ventilator and has a DNR. RIP. Be safe out there. 
Sad.  RIP

I was away from this thread for awhile and had 94 unread posts. 
It went off the rail a bit. Now it's where it should be.
Think about the victims.
Be safe everybody.

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@"Havoc1649" said:
@"purplefaithful" said: Mass testing, empty ICUs: Germany scores early against virus
By FRANK JORDANS Associated PressApril 1, 2020 — 2:19pm

BERLIN — Late last year — long before most people had heard of the new coronavirus now sweeping the globe — scientists in Germany sprang into action to develop a test for the virus that was causing an unusual respiratory disease in central China.
They had one by mid-January — and labs around the country were ready to start using it just weeks later, around the same time that Europe's most populous country registered its first case.
“It was clear that if the epidemic swept over here from China, then we had to start testing," said Hendrik Borucki, a spokesman for Bioscientia Healthcare, which operates 19 labs in Germany.
That quick work stands in stark contrast to delays and missteps in other countries. Coupled with Germany's large number of intensive care beds and its early social distancing measures, it could explain one of the most interesting puzzles of the COVID-19 pandemic: Why are people with the virus in Germany currently dying at much lower rates than in neighboring countries?
The numbers are remarkable: As confirmed cases in Germany passed 71,000, the death toll Wednesday was 775, according to a tally kept by Johns Hopkins University. In contrast, Italy has reported almost 106,000 infections and more than 12,400 deaths, while Spain has more than 102,000 cases with over 9,000 deaths.
France has four times as many virus deaths as Germany and Britain has twice as many, even though both countries have fewer reported infections.
There may be many factors at play, but experts said early on that fast and widespread testing gave Germany an edge.
“The reason why we in Germany have so few deaths at the moment compared to the number of infected can be largely explained by the fact that we are doing an extremely large number of lab diagnoses," said virologist Dr. Christian Drosten, whose team developed the first test for the new virus at Berlin's Charité hospital — established over 300 years ago to treat plague victims.
He estimated that Germany is now capable of conducting up to 500,000 tests a week.
Spain, meanwhile, tests between 105,000 and 140,000 people each week, about 20% to 30% what Germany is capable of. Italy did around 200,000 tests over the past week, but that reflects a significant recent ramp-up.
Early access to the test from Drosten's team is only part of the reason for Germany's head start. Before the country even registered its first case, authorities agreed the tests would be covered by its universal insurance system, and be available to everyone with symptoms and either recent travel to virus hotspots or close contact with a confirmed case
https://www.startribune.com/mass-testing-empty-icus-germany-scores-early-against-virus/569278782/


I think it’s human nature to believe that as long as we conduct enough tests, we’ll be able to stop the spread of this scourge. In my opinion, this brings a false sense of security and feeling that we have control over the virus. We do not and neither does Germany.

I look at acceptable levels of testing as being able to improve the accuracy of predictive models as well as to improve our ability to trace and isolate. 

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how many people have had this already in the US and how many died from it and it was written off as the conventional flu before this was discovered and a test was developed?

I would like to see the blood banks start testing their supply to see if they can find traces of the disease ( I dont know the right term,  what ever marker is left behind in the blood that shows if a person has had this virus recently) 

I have a buddy in the health profession ( ok,  so he's a chiropractor :p )  that is fairly convinced that this has been here since late last summer and its only blowing up as we are as a country at our weakest in the late winter months in terms of immunity and most vulnerable because of there being so much more confined group activities.

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