OT: Coronavirus

@"StickyBun" said:

@"Vikergirl" said: https://twitter.com/WFLA/status/1239618604255059975?s=19

So high school and college kids aren't in school and probably won't be for the rest of the school year....flights are DIRT cheap right now.....its not surprising. Dumb, but kids are bulletproof. There are definitely some Floridians in that mass but many are also Spring Breakers from out of town. 

@"MaroonBells" said: Some good news (please note that this was taken from Facebook, so I can't vouch for it's truthiness)...

-China has closed down its last coronavirus hospital. Not enough new cases to support them.

- Doctors in India have been successful in treating Coronavirus. Combination of drugs used: Lopinavir, Retonovir, Oseltamivir along with Chlorphenamine. They are going to suggest same medicine, globally.

- Researchers of the Erasmus Medical Center claim to have found an antibody against coronavirus.

- A 103-year-old Chinese grandmother has made a full recovery from COVID-19 after being treated for 6 days in Wuhan, China.

- Apple reopens all 42 china stores,

- Cleveland Clinic developed a COVID-19 test that gives results in hours, not days.

- Good news from South Korea, where the number of new cases is declining.

- Italy is hit hard, experts say, only because they have the oldest population in Europe.

- Scientists in Israel likely to announce the development of a coronavirus vaccine.

- 3 Maryland coronavirus patients fully recovered; able to return to everyday life.

- A network of Canadian scientists are making excellent progress in Covid-19 research.

- A San Diego biotech company is developing a Covid-19 vaccine in collaboration with Duke University and National University of Singapore.

- Tulsa County's first positive COVID-19 case has recovered. This individual has had two negative tests, which is the indicator of recovery.

- All 7 patients who were getting treated for at Safdarjung hospital in New Delhi have recovered.

- Plasma from newly recovered patients from Covid -19 can treat others infected by Covid-19.

its good to hear that china is on the upward climb,  but people need to read this and understand that the US is roughly 3 months behind in terms of the timeline.  China first found out they had the disease in December and didnt open those hospitals until February IIRC when the disease hit full steam.   As there is no vaccine or cure yet,  we must not let this news allow the US people to let up their guard in terms of following the guidelines and using smart approaches to dealing with the public and in public situations like shopping,  etc.   We are currently at about the first month of what appears to be a 3-4 month battle.   I hope that social media is also pushing around the real dangers of becoming complacent to soon,  as always common sense needs to be the guidelines to follow regarding this situation.

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@"suncoastvike" said:

@"StickyBun" said:

@"Vikergirl" said: https://twitter.com/WFLA/status/1239618604255059975?s=19

So high school and college kids aren't in school and probably won't be for the rest of the school year....flights are DIRT cheap right now.....its not surprising. Dumb, but kids are bulletproof. There are definitely some Floridians in that mass but many are also Spring Breakers from out of town. 

I seen some kid on the news this morning saying. Well it only kills old people so I'm not worried. Great kid, since you've chosen to make yourself nothing less then a carrier. You should be obligated to run as fast as you can in the opposite direction of any seniors you might cross.

Aahh yesss bullet proof indeed.

Humans are capable of incredible things, bad and good. We'll certainly see all of it during these historic times. 

That said, I am concerned we did not test enough bodies soon enough. What's being done in San Francisco should be mandated nationwide by the Feds.

We are not off the path to potentially becoming Northern Italy instead of So K here in the States.

Osterholm was very candid in reminding us this isn't a winter storm that we're waiting to pass, it's Winter. 

"Insert Winter is Here" comment...

We should be building additional tent hospital capacity right now. NY Gov Cuomo was magnificent in his calls for action on Monday. 

@"JimmyinSD" said:

@"suncoastvike" said:

@"StickyBun" said:

@"Vikergirl" said: https://twitter.com/WFLA/status/1239618604255059975?s=19

So high school and college kids aren't in school and probably won't be for the rest of the school year....flights are DIRT cheap right now.....its not surprising. Dumb, but kids are bulletproof. There are definitely some Floridians in that mass but many are also Spring Breakers from out of town. 

I seen some kid on the news this morning saying. Well it only kills old people so I'm not worried. Great kid, since you've chosen to make yourself nothing less then a carrier. You should be obligated to run as fast as you can in the opposite direction of any seniors you might cross.

Aahh yesss bullet proof indeed.

this is what I am scared of,  the arrogance of America, coupled with the ignorance of youth, being fed by the misinformation that is social media.   the disease doesnt really scare me for me,  its the 15% of our population that is in the "high risk" category and the fact that the longer we take to really just bite the bullet and shut down our social gatherings the longer this is going to take to get a handle on and the more people that will get exposed and die.   Not to mention the higher likelihood that it will mutate into something that is more difficult to control and/or more deadly in terms of who it really knocks down.

@"purplefaithful" said: Humans are capable of incredible things, bad and good. We'll certainly see all of it during these historic times. 

That said, I am concerned we did not test enough bodies soon enough. What's being done in San Francisco should be mandated nationwide by the Feds.

We are not off the path to potentially becoming Northern Italy instead of So K here in the States.

We should be building additional tent hospital capacity right now. NY Gov Cuomo was magnificent in his calls for action on Monday. 

i think its the type of facilities that we need to be creating that will scare people... we dont need traditional hospitals for this type of scenario,  we need massive facilities where you have dozens of beds in one area so that a small number of care providers can cover a larger area.   hospital rooms are great for containing germs,  but for the most part all the people in these facilities will be facing the same thing and once the staff has their PPE on they can move from patient to patient much quicker where as a traditional hospital would have them deconing much more often and they will burn through a lot more PPE supplies which would lead to more shortages.    all these sports arenas and stadiums that arent being used for massive sporting events should be getting prepped with beds and other necessary things to make them massive metro health facilities.  we dont really need the corp of engineers IMO a strong logistical unit coupled with some quality transportation units and somebody with the authority to make shit happen,  just some common sense,  the facilities are there,  just get them set up and ready.

@"JimmyinSD" said:

@"suncoastvike" said:

@"StickyBun" said:

@"Vikergirl" said: https://twitter.com/WFLA/status/1239618604255059975?s=19

So high school and college kids aren't in school and probably won't be for the rest of the school year....flights are DIRT cheap right now.....its not surprising. Dumb, but kids are bulletproof. There are definitely some Floridians in that mass but many are also Spring Breakers from out of town. 

I seen some kid on the news this morning saying. Well it only kills old people so I'm not worried. Great kid, since you've chosen to make yourself nothing less then a carrier. You should be obligated to run as fast as you can in the opposite direction of any seniors you might cross.

Aahh yesss bullet proof indeed.

this is what I am scared of,  the arrogance of America, coupled with the ignorance of youth, being fed by the misinformation that is social media.   the disease doesnt really scare me for me,  its the 15% of our population that is in the "high risk" category and the fact that the longer we take to really just bite the bullet and shut down our social gatherings the longer this is going to take to get a handle on and the more people that will get exposed and die.   Not to mention the higher likelihood that it will mutate into something that is more difficult to control and/or more deadly in terms of who it really knocks down.

@"suncoastvike" said:

@"JimmyinSD" said:

@"suncoastvike" said:

@"StickyBun" said:

@"Vikergirl" said: https://twitter.com/WFLA/status/1239618604255059975?s=19

So high school and college kids aren't in school and probably won't be for the rest of the school year....flights are DIRT cheap right now.....its not surprising. Dumb, but kids are bulletproof. There are definitely some Floridians in that mass but many are also Spring Breakers from out of town. 

I seen some kid on the news this morning saying. Well it only kills old people so I'm not worried. Great kid, since you've chosen to make yourself nothing less then a carrier. You should be obligated to run as fast as you can in the opposite direction of any seniors you might cross.

Aahh yesss bullet proof indeed.

this is what I am scared of,  the arrogance of America, coupled with the ignorance of youth, being fed by the misinformation that is social media.   the disease doesnt really scare me for me,  its the 15% of our population that is in the "high risk" category and the fact that the longer we take to really just bite the bullet and shut down our social gatherings the longer this is going to take to get a handle on and the more people that will get exposed and die.   Not to mention the higher likelihood that it will mutate into something that is more difficult to control and/or more deadly in terms of who it really knocks down.

Just heard one. Damn smart@ss kids are referring to this as the boomer doomer...

@"suncoastvike" said:

@"JimmyinSD" said:

@"suncoastvike" said:

@"StickyBun" said:

@"Vikergirl" said: https://twitter.com/WFLA/status/1239618604255059975?s=19

So high school and college kids aren't in school and probably won't be for the rest of the school year....flights are DIRT cheap right now.....its not surprising. Dumb, but kids are bulletproof. There are definitely some Floridians in that mass but many are also Spring Breakers from out of town. 

I seen some kid on the news this morning saying. Well it only kills old people so I'm not worried. Great kid, since you've chosen to make yourself nothing less then a carrier. You should be obligated to run as fast as you can in the opposite direction of any seniors you might cross.

Aahh yesss bullet proof indeed.

this is what I am scared of,  the arrogance of America, coupled with the ignorance of youth, being fed by the misinformation that is social media.   the disease doesnt really scare me for me,  its the 15% of our population that is in the "high risk" category and the fact that the longer we take to really just bite the bullet and shut down our social gatherings the longer this is going to take to get a handle on and the more people that will get exposed and die.   Not to mention the higher likelihood that it will mutate into something that is more difficult to control and/or more deadly in terms of who it really knocks down.

Just heard one. Damn smart@ss kids are referring to this as the boomer doomer...

@"Vikergirl" said:

@"suncoastvike" said:

@"JimmyinSD" said:

@"suncoastvike" said:

@"StickyBun" said:

@"Vikergirl" said: https://twitter.com/WFLA/status/1239618604255059975?s=19

So high school and college kids aren't in school and probably won't be for the rest of the school year....flights are DIRT cheap right now.....its not surprising. Dumb, but kids are bulletproof. There are definitely some Floridians in that mass but many are also Spring Breakers from out of town. 

I seen some kid on the news this morning saying. Well it only kills old people so I'm not worried. Great kid, since you've chosen to make yourself nothing less then a carrier. You should be obligated to run as fast as you can in the opposite direction of any seniors you might cross.

Aahh yesss bullet proof indeed.

this is what I am scared of,  the arrogance of America, coupled with the ignorance of youth, being fed by the misinformation that is social media.   the disease doesnt really scare me for me,  its the 15% of our population that is in the "high risk" category and the fact that the longer we take to really just bite the bullet and shut down our social gatherings the longer this is going to take to get a handle on and the more people that will get exposed and die.   Not to mention the higher likelihood that it will mutate into something that is more difficult to control and/or more deadly in terms of who it really knocks down.

Just heard one. Damn smart@ss kids are referring to this as the boomer doomer...

I also heard boomer remover. There is a great divide in regard to the approach to this. Some people are limiting their movement to help others and some people are selfishly doing whatever they want. Both options are found in all age groups.

Mitigation vs Supression Policies...I think it's inevitable they will have to shut-down all but essential services soon.

A study by UK epidemiologists predicts that attempts to slow, or mitigate -- rather than actively halt, or suppress -- the novel coronavirus could overwhelm the number of intensive care hospital beds and lead to about 250,000 deaths in the UK and more than a million in the United States during the course of the current pandemic. 
The study, which has not been published in a peer-reviewed journal, was released on Monday by London's Imperial College COVID-19 Response Team, which says it is advising the UK government on its response strategy.

The study says it used modeling that has informed the approach of the British government in recent weeks; on Monday, the government abruptly called on vulnerable and elderly Britons to isolate themselves for 12 weeks, and introduced a variety of social distancing and quarantine recommendations that days earlier seemed distant prospects.

Also on Monday, President Donald Trump unveiled a 15-day plan to slow new infections in the United States, including more stringent recommendations about staying home and avoiding groups of 10 people or more, among other steps.

An author of the study, Imperial College Professor Neil Ferguson, said in an email to CNN on Tuesday the study was given to the White House Coronavirus Task Force over the weekend and the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention on Monday.

https://www.imperial.ac.uk/media/imperial-college/medicine/sph/ide/gida-fellowships/Imperial-College-COVID19-NPI-modelling-16-03-2020.pdf

https://www.cnn.com/2020/03/17/health/coronavirus-uk-model-study/index.html

I have been working from home(posting) yesterday and today, my wife had a fever, spiked Sunday night, and we had recently traveled to DC.  So she went to the doctors office today, they have no test kits, the hospital has a "few" but they only use those when they are getting ready to use a ventilator.  Folks we are flying blind, got a feeling triage care is gonna be a highly used phrase befor this is all said and done.  

@"BigAl99" said: I have been working from home(posting) yesterday and today, my wife had a fever, spiked Sunday night, and we had recently traveled to DC.  So she went to the doctors office today, they have no test kits, the hospital has a "few" but they only use those when they are getting ready to use a ventilator.  Folks we are flying blind, got a feeling triage care is gonna be a highly used phrase befor this is all said and done.  

I hope she's ok...

It's crazy stupid and sad that testing is still so erratic at this stage of the game. IF you look at the amount and type of testing we're doing here vs the booth testing in Asia and elsewhere? You'd think we're in a 3rd world country. 

Sadly, this country is about 2 weeks behind Europe. We aren't doing enough yet. Look what France, Germany and others did - they shut the show down sans essential services. 

Again, I hope she's ok. 

@"BigAl99" said: I have been working from home(posting) yesterday and today, my wife had a fever, spiked Sunday night, and we had recently traveled to DC.  So she went to the doctors office today, they have no test kits, the hospital has a "few" but they only use those when they are getting ready to use a ventilator.  Folks we are flying blind, got a feeling triage care is gonna be a highly used phrase befor this is all said and done.  

Good luck big guy. I hope the Mrs is going to be OK.

Yeah what we don't know and what we are not prepared for Im only now starting to grasp. 

We will be fine, it's most likely a viral infection associated with a cold.  We were just trying to do the right thing and go by the protocols.  Very disappointed with our infrastructure, nowhere near ready for this.   Like I said previously, my company has been prepping for this since early January, this is not something that just appeared last week.

One thing that keeps getting clearer is that the response in Korea was much more than just passive testing.  The Asian countries that were hit by mers and sars went after this in a sophisticated way, they learned and were prepared. And that information wasn't a secret to the rest of the world, we just chose not to listen to the experts.  They used rigorous information technology, ie. cell phone data, to track and head-off the threat.  They didn't let it come to them.  Hope we can learn the value of somethings.  

Was wondering when this was going to happen, and why it didnt happen till now???

@"purplefaithful" said:

@"BigAl99" said: I have been working from home(posting) yesterday and today, my wife had a fever, spiked Sunday night, and we had recently traveled to DC.  So she went to the doctors office today, they have no test kits, the hospital has a "few" but they only use those when they are getting ready to use a ventilator.  Folks we are flying blind, got a feeling triage care is gonna be a highly used phrase befor this is all said and done.  

I hope she's ok...

It's crazy stupid and sad that testing is still so erratic at this stage of the game. IF you look at the amount and type of testing we're doing here vs the booth testing in Asia and elsewhere? You'd think we're in a 3rd world country. 

Sadly, this country is about 2 weeks behind Europe. We aren't doing enough yet. Look what France, Germany and others did - they shut the show down sans essential services. 

Again, I hope she's ok. 

@"purplefaithful" said: Was wondering when this was going to happen, and why it didnt happen till now???

https://twitter.com/mallofamerica/status/1239942477647413248

I figured it was only a matter of time. After the governor's press conference yesterday, I thought this was going to happen.