CBS Sports.com Prisco: "Rumor is Vikings like Maye"

I don't think they make the move until their trade partner is on the clock on draft night.  You don't move up before you're sure that your target is there.  Say we move up to 5 next week, then on draft night Denver can lose their marbles and use 3 1's to jump us to 4.  

@"RS Express" said: I don't think they make the move until their trade partner is on the clock on draft night.  You don't move up before you're sure that your target is there.  Say we move up to 5 next week, then on draft night Denver can lose their marbles and use 3 1's to jump us to 4.  

@"RS Express" said: I don't think they make the move until their trade partner is on the clock on draft night.  You don't move up before you're sure that your target is there.  Say we move up to 5 next week, then on draft night Denver can lose their marbles and use 3 1's to jump us to 4.  

Word is they are in talks for number 2 with the Commanders. If that ends uo being the case, I expect it happens relatively shortly. No need to hide it since no one will be able to jump them. 

@"Havoc1649" said:

@"RS Express" said: I don't think they make the move until their trade partner is on the clock on draft night.  You don't move up before you're sure that your target is there.  Say we move up to 5 next week, then on draft night Denver can lose their marbles and use 3 1's to jump us to 4.  

Word is they are in talks for number 2 with the Commanders. If that ends uo being the case, I expect it happens relatively shortly. No need to hide it since no one will be able to jump them. 

No matter what happens, I'll roll with the outcome and look for the positives. Highly curious would be an understatement.

When asked "Which is more likely: trading three firsts and getting Maye or trading two firsts and landing McCarthy?", @alec_lewis says, "I think the 1st outcome is much more likely than the 2nd".

Seems like Drake Maye is the QB the #Vikings covet more and not J.J. McCarthy 🤔 pic.twitter.com/PAcL28bASQ

— The Purple Persuasion (@TPPSkol) March 18, 2024

@"MaroonBells" said: https://twitter.com/TPPSkol/status/1769734638363160925?s=20

I saw a mock draft that showed McCarthy dropping to the 11th spot for Minnesota.  I wish this was true and end up keeping both first round selections.

@"ArizonaViking" said: I saw a mock draft that showed McCarthy dropping to the 11th spot for Minnesota.  I wish this was true and end up keeping both first round selections.

@"Waterboy" said:

@"mgobluevikes" said:

@"Waterboy" said:

@"JimmyinSD" said:

@"mgobluevikes" said:

@"MaroonBells" said: Dan Orlovsky: "Most of these 1st round QBs if they go to Minnesota are going to be really good. Kevin's great, their offensive line is great, Addison's an awesome #2, Hockenson's a stud...I think Minnesota made those trades because they want to go get Drake Maye...If this young man goes to Minnesota he will be a stud."

Looks like @danorlovsky7 thinks the #Vikings are moving up for QB Drake Maye 👀

"I think Minnesota will trade up to get Drake Maye… If he goes to Minnesota, he will be a stud with Kevin O'Connell.”
pic.twitter.com/z3hwxphhmC

— The Purple Persuasion (@TPPSkol) March 15, 2024

I don't get the QB guru label. Exactly where is this list of QB's he's developed into pro bowlers? Cousins had 1 year with him before Minnesota, wasn't developed under O'Connell, nor did he turn his career around. When O'Connell was with the Rams, he was never a QB coach. Browns, they had Manziel in rehab. 

It's just weird that because he comes off as a reasonable human being, who seems to have empathy, he is a Maharishi in the eyes of the media.

He was a highly successful OC and a former QB in the league, and has brought Cousins to an entirely other level.  I would that qualifies as Start to being a guru.

Define bringing Kirk to an entirely different level. I know there are intangibles, but different level is a huge stretch. Cousins has been remarkably consistent while doing things on squads with different makeups schemes and coaches. 

                                       G   Att   C     %.     Y     Avg Lg TD Int      Rate

2018

Minnesota Vikings

16

606

425

70.1

4298

7.1

75

30

10

99.7

2019

Minnesota Vikings

15

444

307

69.1

3603

8.1

66

26

6

107.4

2020

Minnesota Vikings

16

516

349

67.6

4265

8.3

71

35

13

105

2021

Minnesota Vikings

16

561

372

66.3

4221

7.5

64

33

7

103.1

2022

Minnesota Vikings

17

643

424

65.9

4547

7.1

66

29

14

92.5

@"mgobluevikes" said:

@"Waterboy" said:

@"mgobluevikes" said:

@"Waterboy" said:

@"JimmyinSD" said:

@"mgobluevikes" said:

@"MaroonBells" said: Dan Orlovsky: "Most of these 1st round QBs if they go to Minnesota are going to be really good. Kevin's great, their offensive line is great, Addison's an awesome #2, Hockenson's a stud...I think Minnesota made those trades because they want to go get Drake Maye...If this young man goes to Minnesota he will be a stud."

Looks like @danorlovsky7 thinks the #Vikings are moving up for QB Drake Maye 👀

"I think Minnesota will trade up to get Drake Maye… If he goes to Minnesota, he will be a stud with Kevin O'Connell.”
pic.twitter.com/z3hwxphhmC

— The Purple Persuasion (@TPPSkol) March 15, 2024

I don't get the QB guru label. Exactly where is this list of QB's he's developed into pro bowlers? Cousins had 1 year with him before Minnesota, wasn't developed under O'Connell, nor did he turn his career around. When O'Connell was with the Rams, he was never a QB coach. Browns, they had Manziel in rehab. 

It's just weird that because he comes off as a reasonable human being, who seems to have empathy, he is a Maharishi in the eyes of the media.

He was a highly successful OC and a former QB in the league, and has brought Cousins to an entirely other level.  I would that qualifies as Start to being a guru.

Define bringing Kirk to an entirely different level. I know there are intangibles, but different level is a huge stretch. Cousins has been remarkably consistent while doing things on squads with different makeups schemes and coaches. 

                                       G   Att   C     %.     Y     Avg Lg TD Int      Rate

2018

Minnesota Vikings

16

606

425

70.1

4298

7.1

75

30

10

99.7

2019

Minnesota Vikings

15

444

307

69.1

3603

8.1

66

26

6

107.4

2020

Minnesota Vikings

16

516

349

67.6

4265

8.3

71

35

13

105

2021

Minnesota Vikings

16

561

372

66.3

4221

7.5

64

33

7

103.1

2022

Minnesota Vikings

17

643

424

65.9

4547

7.1

66

29

14

92.5

It's a fair enough argument.  It feels like particularly in 22, those stats lied quite a bit.  Kirk was money with the game on the line to a far greater extent than in the past.  Also, the Vikes running game had ground to a halt over the last two years.  But, still I think it's fair to question that part of the argument.   The first two are pretty inarguable, though, and I feel most people in the league believe him to be someone who is advanced in helping qb's get the most out of themselves.

@"MaroonBells" said:

@"pattersaur" said:

@"MaroonBells" said:

@"supafreak84" said:

@"ArizonaViking" said: I saw a mock draft that showed McCarthy dropping to the 11th spot for Minnesota.  I wish this was true and end up keeping both first round selections.

It's possible. Look what happened to Will Levis just last year. The Vikings are going to have to be very good with Intel and having a good idea of where teams are going with their picks. Right now information is all over the board on the quarterbacks 

Remember 2021? Everyone and his brother were convinced the 49ers wanted Mac Jones in the trade up. This was the widely held belief until just a couple days before the draft. 

In reality, they wanted Trey Lance. They don't make the move to 3 without knowing the Jets were going to take Zach Wilson. It's interesting to me they had that intel on March 26th of that year. Either that or they were OK with either Wilson, Lance, Jones or Fields, which seems less likely to me. 

Saleh had moved from Niner DC to Jets HC like a month prior. So he likely did the Niners a solid and told them his plans in New York. 

Not sure we have such connections. Maybe if it was the Rams or something and McVay wanted to do KO a solid but I’m not seeing the link with us and the top teams this year. Unless KJ Osborne is angling for the Pats to trade us their pick and catch balls from Brissett all season long  =).

No idea what it's worth but Kwesi and Commanders GM were in San Francisco together. 

@"mgobluevikes" said:

@"MaroonBells" said:

@"pattersaur" said:

@"MaroonBells" said:

@"supafreak84" said:

@"ArizonaViking" said: I saw a mock draft that showed McCarthy dropping to the 11th spot for Minnesota.  I wish this was true and end up keeping both first round selections.

It's possible. Look what happened to Will Levis just last year. The Vikings are going to have to be very good with Intel and having a good idea of where teams are going with their picks. Right now information is all over the board on the quarterbacks 

Remember 2021? Everyone and his brother were convinced the 49ers wanted Mac Jones in the trade up. This was the widely held belief until just a couple days before the draft. 

In reality, they wanted Trey Lance. They don't make the move to 3 without knowing the Jets were going to take Zach Wilson. It's interesting to me they had that intel on March 26th of that year. Either that or they were OK with either Wilson, Lance, Jones or Fields, which seems less likely to me. 

Saleh had moved from Niner DC to Jets HC like a month prior. So he likely did the Niners a solid and told them his plans in New York. 

Not sure we have such connections. Maybe if it was the Rams or something and McVay wanted to do KO a solid but I’m not seeing the link with us and the top teams this year. Unless KJ Osborne is angling for the Pats to trade us their pick and catch balls from Brissett all season long  =).

No idea what it's worth but Kwesi and Commanders GM were in San Francisco together. 

Do they have pictures of that weekend wine tasting in Sonoma?

@"MaroonBells" said:

Dan Orlovsky

@danorlovsky7

Elliot Wolf (acting GM for@Patriots ) was in Green Bay when they took Rodgers He was in Cleveland when they took Baker He was in New England when they took Mac He knows what happens when you take a QB with a bad roster around them and what happens when you build the roster first than take the QB. I expect Ne to trade back

 Here is another take on that topic:

Every time I look at the New England roster I'm stuck with four HUGE needs:

QB
LT
WR
CB

With two picks in the top 34 and four core needs, I could still see NE being a trade-out candidate (with Minnesota) to collect more draft capital this year and potentially wait for '25 QB…

— Matt Miller (@nfldraftscout) March 18, 2024

@"MaroonBells" said:

@"supafreak84" said:

@"ArizonaViking" said: I saw a mock draft that showed McCarthy dropping to the 11th spot for Minnesota.  I wish this was true and end up keeping both first round selections.

It's possible. Look what happened to Will Levis just last year. The Vikings are going to have to be very good with Intel and having a good idea of where teams are going with their picks. Right now information is all over the board on the quarterbacks 

Remember 2021? Everyone and his brother were convinced the 49ers wanted Mac Jones in the trade up. This was the widely held belief until just a couple days before the draft. 

In reality, they wanted Trey Lance. They don't make the move to 3 without knowing the Jets were going to take Zach Wilson. It's interesting to me they had that intel on March 26th of that year. Either that or they were OK with either Wilson, Lance, Jones or Fields, which seems less likely to me.