Diggs traded to Buffalo

@"Geoff Nichols" said:

@"MaroonBells" said:

@"Jor-El" said:

Some of you guys are calling this "a haul"...seriously? I see exactly ONE premium draft pick, the first rounder (and it ain't a top 10 pick). After that we have a couple of late picks, which are a crapshoot, and a 4th rounder - next year. Great, a 4th round pick , where the Vikings have recently acquired such contributors as Jalyn Holmes, Willie Beavers, TJ Clemmings, and Jaleel Johnson. But hey, maybe we'll strike gold with that pick and get someone on the level of Ben Gedeon! The Bills just acquired one of the 10 (maybe 5) best WRs in the NFL, only 26 years old, and will pair him with John Brown, who caught 72 passes for over 1,000 yards as a rookie. We received the 22nd pick (yay, 1 pick higher than we picked Laquon Treadwell!), and our #2 WR is now Bisi Johnson.

Unless Diggs was a genuine locker-room cancer far beyond anything reported and will melt down in Antonio Brown style within a year, this trade is a tragedy for the Vikings.

Agree. There is one winner here: The Bills. And two losers: the Vikings and Diggs.

All picks after the 4th round are guesses, and all picks next year are mostly meaningless. Grains of sand to balance a scale. So this is essentially Diggs for the 22nd pick. I don't think anyone got fleeced here--it's fair value in the market of capital and services. 

But when you factor in just how much Diggs meant to this offense, and how difficult that will be to replace, considering all the other needs, the Vikings have definitely taken a step backward. 

I think the best thing the Vikings can do right now is sign a low-cost veteran receiver who can step into the #2 role and draft another receiver in either rounds 1 or 2 to compete with him. We absolutely cannot count on a rookie receiver to come in and contribute, much less replace the kind of attention that Diggs drew from defenses. 

There is an argument to be made from a best-use-of-resources perspective. Vikings were a running team spending nearly $30M on its wide receivers. THAT, I get. But in order for this to work, the Vikings have to turn this transaction into one HELL of a running game, despite the fact that, right now anyway, the key to beating the Vikings is simple: double Thielen and stack the box. 

I would be curious to know what you think another team would have realistically offered where you would pull the trigger? 

@"MaroonBells" said:

@"Geoff Nichols" said:

@"MaroonBells" said:

@"Jor-El" said:

Some of you guys are calling this "a haul"...seriously? I see exactly ONE premium draft pick, the first rounder (and it ain't a top 10 pick). After that we have a couple of late picks, which are a crapshoot, and a 4th rounder - next year. Great, a 4th round pick , where the Vikings have recently acquired such contributors as Jalyn Holmes, Willie Beavers, TJ Clemmings, and Jaleel Johnson. But hey, maybe we'll strike gold with that pick and get someone on the level of Ben Gedeon! The Bills just acquired one of the 10 (maybe 5) best WRs in the NFL, only 26 years old, and will pair him with John Brown, who caught 72 passes for over 1,000 yards as a rookie. We received the 22nd pick (yay, 1 pick higher than we picked Laquon Treadwell!), and our #2 WR is now Bisi Johnson.

Unless Diggs was a genuine locker-room cancer far beyond anything reported and will melt down in Antonio Brown style within a year, this trade is a tragedy for the Vikings.

Agree. There is one winner here: The Bills. And two losers: the Vikings and Diggs.

All picks after the 4th round are guesses, and all picks next year are mostly meaningless. Grains of sand to balance a scale. So this is essentially Diggs for the 22nd pick. I don't think anyone got fleeced here--it's fair value in the market of capital and services. 

But when you factor in just how much Diggs meant to this offense, and how difficult that will be to replace, considering all the other needs, the Vikings have definitely taken a step backward. 

I think the best thing the Vikings can do right now is sign a low-cost veteran receiver who can step into the #2 role and draft another receiver in either rounds 1 or 2 to compete with him. We absolutely cannot count on a rookie receiver to come in and contribute, much less replace the kind of attention that Diggs drew from defenses. 

There is an argument to be made from a best-use-of-resources perspective. Vikings were a running team spending nearly $30M on its wide receivers. THAT, I get. But in order for this to work, the Vikings have to turn this transaction into one HELL of a running game, despite the fact that, right now anyway, the key to beating the Vikings is simple: double Thielen and stack the box. 

I would be curious to know what you think another team would have realistically offered where you would pull the trigger? 

Two starters. So either a 1st and a player or a 1st and a 3rd--a player who should eventually start. Even then I'm not sure I do it. Yesterday, we were a team with a bunch of holes to fill on defense, but an offense that could conceivably become elite with better protection, or at least good enough to render a further downgrade on defense somewhat tolerable. 

Today, we're a team who just took a significant blow to that offense...and the holes on defense are still there, too. Can we replace Diggs? Of course. We'll replace his spot on the roster. But I think people are underestimating just how hard it is to find a receiver of that caliber. 

Go ahead, look at all the 1st round receivers at the link below...if you dare. It's not a pretty picture. Notice how many of them had little or no impact their rookie season, about 90%. Go back a decade, two decades. It's a parade of busts. No, you strike gold on a receiver like Diggs, you find a way to keep him. Oh, but those "cryptic tweets." LOL. People react as if he PERSONALLY offended them in some way. I'll show you, Diggs! SMH

http://www.drafthistory.com/index.php/positions/wr

@"greediron" said:

@"FSUVike" said:

@"greediron" said:

@"FSUVike" said: And it gets worse. Only 20 Rookies WRs in the entire history of the League have eclipsed 1,000 yards. So even if Minnesota could somehow pick the best of Lamb/Jeudy/Ruggs, none of whom they will have a shot at, the odds of that Rookie replacing Diggs' production is extremely low.

But hey, at least you guys who spend all day on Twitter won't have anything to get cranky about any more! 

You don't have to replace Diggs, just draft someone that can pair with AT.  It was obvious last year that Adam is the better WR.  Our offense missed him badly.  Diggs?  Not so much.

When Thielen sees the attention Diggs got when he was out and fails to exceed it remind me to revisit this quote.

2 things.  Who got the attention when both were on the field?  And who still produced when Diggs was out every year prior to last year?
AT was our #1 WR and it wasn't that close. 

2 things.  Who got the attention when both were on the field?  And who still produced when Diggs was out every year prior to last year? AT was our #1 WR and it wasn't that close. 

@"JimmyinSD" said:

@"MaroonBells" said:

@"Geoff Nichols" said:

@"MaroonBells" said:

@"Jor-El" said:

Some of you guys are calling this "a haul"...seriously? I see exactly ONE premium draft pick, the first rounder (and it ain't a top 10 pick). After that we have a couple of late picks, which are a crapshoot, and a 4th rounder - next year. Great, a 4th round pick , where the Vikings have recently acquired such contributors as Jalyn Holmes, Willie Beavers, TJ Clemmings, and Jaleel Johnson. But hey, maybe we'll strike gold with that pick and get someone on the level of Ben Gedeon! The Bills just acquired one of the 10 (maybe 5) best WRs in the NFL, only 26 years old, and will pair him with John Brown, who caught 72 passes for over 1,000 yards as a rookie. We received the 22nd pick (yay, 1 pick higher than we picked Laquon Treadwell!), and our #2 WR is now Bisi Johnson.

Unless Diggs was a genuine locker-room cancer far beyond anything reported and will melt down in Antonio Brown style within a year, this trade is a tragedy for the Vikings.

Agree. There is one winner here: The Bills. And two losers: the Vikings and Diggs.

All picks after the 4th round are guesses, and all picks next year are mostly meaningless. Grains of sand to balance a scale. So this is essentially Diggs for the 22nd pick. I don't think anyone got fleeced here--it's fair value in the market of capital and services. 

But when you factor in just how much Diggs meant to this offense, and how difficult that will be to replace, considering all the other needs, the Vikings have definitely taken a step backward. 

I think the best thing the Vikings can do right now is sign a low-cost veteran receiver who can step into the #2 role and draft another receiver in either rounds 1 or 2 to compete with him. We absolutely cannot count on a rookie receiver to come in and contribute, much less replace the kind of attention that Diggs drew from defenses. 

There is an argument to be made from a best-use-of-resources perspective. Vikings were a running team spending nearly $30M on its wide receivers. THAT, I get. But in order for this to work, the Vikings have to turn this transaction into one HELL of a running game, despite the fact that, right now anyway, the key to beating the Vikings is simple: double Thielen and stack the box. 

I would be curious to know what you think another team would have realistically offered where you would pull the trigger? 

Two starters. So either a 1st and a player or a 1st and a 3rd--a player who should eventually start. Even then I'm not sure I do it. Yesterday, we were a team with a bunch of holes to fill on defense, but an offense that could conceivably become elite with better protection, or at least good enough to render a further downgrade on defense somewhat tolerable. 

Today, we're a team who just took a significant blow to that offense...and the holes on defense are still there, too. Can we replace Diggs? Of course. We'll replace his spot on the roster. But I think people are underestimating just how hard it is to find a receiver of that caliber. 

Go ahead, look at all the 1st round receivers at the link below...if you dare. It's not a pretty picture. Notice how many of them had little or no impact their rookie season, about 90%. Go back a decade, two decades. It's a parade of busts. No, you strike gold on a receiver like Diggs, you find a way to keep him. Oh, but those "cryptic tweets." LOL. People react as if he PERSONALLY offended them in some way. I'll show you, Diggs! SMH

http://www.drafthistory.com/index.php/positions/wr

do you honestly think it was the tweets alone that pushed Rick to accept this offer?  it certainly wasnt the offer that blew his skirt up, its not bad,  but its not that earth shattering,    just because the dirt wasnt reaching the fans doesnt mean there wasnt more to this trade than a kid on a cell phone.   

Diggs with Thielen AND Cook (Eagles). 450 yards of offense, 38 points, 5 TDs between the three. 

Diggs 7 for 167, 3 TDs
Thielen 6 for 57, 1 TD

@"JimmyinSD" said:

@"MaroonBells" said:

@"Geoff Nichols" said:

@"MaroonBells" said:

@"Jor-El" said:

Some of you guys are calling this "a haul"...seriously? I see exactly ONE premium draft pick, the first rounder (and it ain't a top 10 pick). After that we have a couple of late picks, which are a crapshoot, and a 4th rounder - next year. Great, a 4th round pick , where the Vikings have recently acquired such contributors as Jalyn Holmes, Willie Beavers, TJ Clemmings, and Jaleel Johnson. But hey, maybe we'll strike gold with that pick and get someone on the level of Ben Gedeon! The Bills just acquired one of the 10 (maybe 5) best WRs in the NFL, only 26 years old, and will pair him with John Brown, who caught 72 passes for over 1,000 yards as a rookie. We received the 22nd pick (yay, 1 pick higher than we picked Laquon Treadwell!), and our #2 WR is now Bisi Johnson.

Unless Diggs was a genuine locker-room cancer far beyond anything reported and will melt down in Antonio Brown style within a year, this trade is a tragedy for the Vikings.

Agree. There is one winner here: The Bills. And two losers: the Vikings and Diggs.

All picks after the 4th round are guesses, and all picks next year are mostly meaningless. Grains of sand to balance a scale. So this is essentially Diggs for the 22nd pick. I don't think anyone got fleeced here--it's fair value in the market of capital and services. 

But when you factor in just how much Diggs meant to this offense, and how difficult that will be to replace, considering all the other needs, the Vikings have definitely taken a step backward. 

I think the best thing the Vikings can do right now is sign a low-cost veteran receiver who can step into the #2 role and draft another receiver in either rounds 1 or 2 to compete with him. We absolutely cannot count on a rookie receiver to come in and contribute, much less replace the kind of attention that Diggs drew from defenses. 

There is an argument to be made from a best-use-of-resources perspective. Vikings were a running team spending nearly $30M on its wide receivers. THAT, I get. But in order for this to work, the Vikings have to turn this transaction into one HELL of a running game, despite the fact that, right now anyway, the key to beating the Vikings is simple: double Thielen and stack the box. 

I would be curious to know what you think another team would have realistically offered where you would pull the trigger? 

Two starters. So either a 1st and a player or a 1st and a 3rd--a player who should eventually start. Even then I'm not sure I do it. Yesterday, we were a team with a bunch of holes to fill on defense, but an offense that could conceivably become elite with better protection, or at least good enough to render a further downgrade on defense somewhat tolerable. 

Today, we're a team who just took a significant blow to that offense...and the holes on defense are still there, too. Can we replace Diggs? Of course. We'll replace his spot on the roster. But I think people are underestimating just how hard it is to find a receiver of that caliber. 

Go ahead, look at all the 1st round receivers at the link below...if you dare. It's not a pretty picture. Notice how many of them had little or no impact their rookie season, about 90%. Go back a decade, two decades. It's a parade of busts. No, you strike gold on a receiver like Diggs, you find a way to keep him. Oh, but those "cryptic tweets." LOL. People react as if he PERSONALLY offended them in some way. I'll show you, Diggs! SMH

http://www.drafthistory.com/index.php/positions/wr

do you honestly think it was the tweets alone that pushed Rick to accept this offer?  it certainly wasnt the offer that blew his skirt up, its not bad,  but its not that earth shattering,    just because the dirt wasnt reaching the fans doesnt mean there wasnt more to this trade than a kid on a cell phone.   

@"MaroonBells" said:

@"Geoff Nichols" said:

@"MaroonBells" said:

@"Jor-El" said:

Some of you guys are calling this "a haul"...seriously? I see exactly ONE premium draft pick, the first rounder (and it ain't a top 10 pick). After that we have a couple of late picks, which are a crapshoot, and a 4th rounder - next year. Great, a 4th round pick , where the Vikings have recently acquired such contributors as Jalyn Holmes, Willie Beavers, TJ Clemmings, and Jaleel Johnson. But hey, maybe we'll strike gold with that pick and get someone on the level of Ben Gedeon! The Bills just acquired one of the 10 (maybe 5) best WRs in the NFL, only 26 years old, and will pair him with John Brown, who caught 72 passes for over 1,000 yards as a rookie. We received the 22nd pick (yay, 1 pick higher than we picked Laquon Treadwell!), and our #2 WR is now Bisi Johnson.

Unless Diggs was a genuine locker-room cancer far beyond anything reported and will melt down in Antonio Brown style within a year, this trade is a tragedy for the Vikings.

Agree. There is one winner here: The Bills. And two losers: the Vikings and Diggs.

All picks after the 4th round are guesses, and all picks next year are mostly meaningless. Grains of sand to balance a scale. So this is essentially Diggs for the 22nd pick. I don't think anyone got fleeced here--it's fair value in the market of capital and services. 

But when you factor in just how much Diggs meant to this offense, and how difficult that will be to replace, considering all the other needs, the Vikings have definitely taken a step backward. 

I think the best thing the Vikings can do right now is sign a low-cost veteran receiver who can step into the #2 role and draft another receiver in either rounds 1 or 2 to compete with him. We absolutely cannot count on a rookie receiver to come in and contribute, much less replace the kind of attention that Diggs drew from defenses. 

There is an argument to be made from a best-use-of-resources perspective. Vikings were a running team spending nearly $30M on its wide receivers. THAT, I get. But in order for this to work, the Vikings have to turn this transaction into one HELL of a running game, despite the fact that, right now anyway, the key to beating the Vikings is simple: double Thielen and stack the box. 

I would be curious to know what you think another team would have realistically offered where you would pull the trigger? 

Two starters. So either a 1st and a player or a 1st and a 3rd--a player who should eventually start. Even then I'm not sure I do it. Yesterday, we were a team with a bunch of holes to fill on defense, but an offense that could conceivably become elite with better protection, or at least good enough to render a further downgrade on defense somewhat tolerable. 

Today, we're a team who just took a significant blow to that offense...and the holes on defense are still there, too. Can we replace Diggs? Of course. We'll replace his spot on the roster. But I think people are underestimating just how hard it is to find a receiver of that caliber. 

Go ahead, look at all the 1st round receivers at the link below...if you dare. It's not a pretty picture. Notice how many of them had little or no impact their rookie season, about 90%. Go back a decade, two decades. It's a parade of busts. No, you strike gold on a receiver like Diggs, you find a way to keep him. Oh, but those "cryptic tweets." LOL. People react as if he PERSONALLY offended them in some way. I'll show you, Diggs! SMH

http://www.drafthistory.com/index.php/positions/wr

30 TDs in 5 seasons played. Averaging just over 5 a season. I don't think his numbers are so high they can't be replaced. Only 2 1,000 yard seasons and just barely above 1,000. 

@"MaroonBells" said:

@"JimmyinSD" said:

@"MaroonBells" said:

@"Geoff Nichols" said:

@"MaroonBells" said:

@"Jor-El" said:

Some of you guys are calling this "a haul"...seriously? I see exactly ONE premium draft pick, the first rounder (and it ain't a top 10 pick). After that we have a couple of late picks, which are a crapshoot, and a 4th rounder - next year. Great, a 4th round pick , where the Vikings have recently acquired such contributors as Jalyn Holmes, Willie Beavers, TJ Clemmings, and Jaleel Johnson. But hey, maybe we'll strike gold with that pick and get someone on the level of Ben Gedeon! The Bills just acquired one of the 10 (maybe 5) best WRs in the NFL, only 26 years old, and will pair him with John Brown, who caught 72 passes for over 1,000 yards as a rookie. We received the 22nd pick (yay, 1 pick higher than we picked Laquon Treadwell!), and our #2 WR is now Bisi Johnson.

Unless Diggs was a genuine locker-room cancer far beyond anything reported and will melt down in Antonio Brown style within a year, this trade is a tragedy for the Vikings.

Agree. There is one winner here: The Bills. And two losers: the Vikings and Diggs.

All picks after the 4th round are guesses, and all picks next year are mostly meaningless. Grains of sand to balance a scale. So this is essentially Diggs for the 22nd pick. I don't think anyone got fleeced here--it's fair value in the market of capital and services. 

But when you factor in just how much Diggs meant to this offense, and how difficult that will be to replace, considering all the other needs, the Vikings have definitely taken a step backward. 

I think the best thing the Vikings can do right now is sign a low-cost veteran receiver who can step into the #2 role and draft another receiver in either rounds 1 or 2 to compete with him. We absolutely cannot count on a rookie receiver to come in and contribute, much less replace the kind of attention that Diggs drew from defenses. 

There is an argument to be made from a best-use-of-resources perspective. Vikings were a running team spending nearly $30M on its wide receivers. THAT, I get. But in order for this to work, the Vikings have to turn this transaction into one HELL of a running game, despite the fact that, right now anyway, the key to beating the Vikings is simple: double Thielen and stack the box. 

I would be curious to know what you think another team would have realistically offered where you would pull the trigger? 

Two starters. So either a 1st and a player or a 1st and a 3rd--a player who should eventually start. Even then I'm not sure I do it. Yesterday, we were a team with a bunch of holes to fill on defense, but an offense that could conceivably become elite with better protection, or at least good enough to render a further downgrade on defense somewhat tolerable. 

Today, we're a team who just took a significant blow to that offense...and the holes on defense are still there, too. Can we replace Diggs? Of course. We'll replace his spot on the roster. But I think people are underestimating just how hard it is to find a receiver of that caliber. 

Go ahead, look at all the 1st round receivers at the link below...if you dare. It's not a pretty picture. Notice how many of them had little or no impact their rookie season, about 90%. Go back a decade, two decades. It's a parade of busts. No, you strike gold on a receiver like Diggs, you find a way to keep him. Oh, but those "cryptic tweets." LOL. People react as if he PERSONALLY offended them in some way. I'll show you, Diggs! SMH

http://www.drafthistory.com/index.php/positions/wr

do you honestly think it was the tweets alone that pushed Rick to accept this offer?  it certainly wasnt the offer that blew his skirt up, its not bad,  but its not that earth shattering,    just because the dirt wasnt reaching the fans doesnt mean there wasnt more to this trade than a kid on a cell phone.   

Of course not. I was mocking everyone who got upset by them. 

@"StickyBun" said: 30 TDs in 5 seasons played. Averaging just over 5 a season. I don't think his numbers are so high they can't be replaced. Only 2 1,000 yard seasons and just barely above 1,000. 

But you don't need a player as talented as Diggs for this offense to function effectively. Diggs talent wasn't maximized since Kirk won't cut the ball loose when his receivers are contested and won't come off his keys. For that reason I see Diggs level of frustration because he was at times playing on another level and the ball wouldn't come. In wk 2 against the Packers he should have had 200+ yards and 3 TDs. Against the Bears he should have gone for 200+ as well. Those games combined he had 8 receptions for about 150 yards and a single TD. 

If you aren't going to use it, allocate the resources elsewhere. 

@"MaroonBells" said:

@"JimmyinSD" said:

@"MaroonBells" said:

@"Geoff Nichols" said:

@"MaroonBells" said:

@"Jor-El" said:

Some of you guys are calling this "a haul"...seriously? I see exactly ONE premium draft pick, the first rounder (and it ain't a top 10 pick). After that we have a couple of late picks, which are a crapshoot, and a 4th rounder - next year. Great, a 4th round pick , where the Vikings have recently acquired such contributors as Jalyn Holmes, Willie Beavers, TJ Clemmings, and Jaleel Johnson. But hey, maybe we'll strike gold with that pick and get someone on the level of Ben Gedeon! The Bills just acquired one of the 10 (maybe 5) best WRs in the NFL, only 26 years old, and will pair him with John Brown, who caught 72 passes for over 1,000 yards as a rookie. We received the 22nd pick (yay, 1 pick higher than we picked Laquon Treadwell!), and our #2 WR is now Bisi Johnson.

Unless Diggs was a genuine locker-room cancer far beyond anything reported and will melt down in Antonio Brown style within a year, this trade is a tragedy for the Vikings.

Agree. There is one winner here: The Bills. And two losers: the Vikings and Diggs.

All picks after the 4th round are guesses, and all picks next year are mostly meaningless. Grains of sand to balance a scale. So this is essentially Diggs for the 22nd pick. I don't think anyone got fleeced here--it's fair value in the market of capital and services. 

But when you factor in just how much Diggs meant to this offense, and how difficult that will be to replace, considering all the other needs, the Vikings have definitely taken a step backward. 

I think the best thing the Vikings can do right now is sign a low-cost veteran receiver who can step into the #2 role and draft another receiver in either rounds 1 or 2 to compete with him. We absolutely cannot count on a rookie receiver to come in and contribute, much less replace the kind of attention that Diggs drew from defenses. 

There is an argument to be made from a best-use-of-resources perspective. Vikings were a running team spending nearly $30M on its wide receivers. THAT, I get. But in order for this to work, the Vikings have to turn this transaction into one HELL of a running game, despite the fact that, right now anyway, the key to beating the Vikings is simple: double Thielen and stack the box. 

I would be curious to know what you think another team would have realistically offered where you would pull the trigger? 

Two starters. So either a 1st and a player or a 1st and a 3rd--a player who should eventually start. Even then I'm not sure I do it. Yesterday, we were a team with a bunch of holes to fill on defense, but an offense that could conceivably become elite with better protection, or at least good enough to render a further downgrade on defense somewhat tolerable. 

Today, we're a team who just took a significant blow to that offense...and the holes on defense are still there, too. Can we replace Diggs? Of course. We'll replace his spot on the roster. But I think people are underestimating just how hard it is to find a receiver of that caliber. 

Go ahead, look at all the 1st round receivers at the link below...if you dare. It's not a pretty picture. Notice how many of them had little or no impact their rookie season, about 90%. Go back a decade, two decades. It's a parade of busts. No, you strike gold on a receiver like Diggs, you find a way to keep him. Oh, but those "cryptic tweets." LOL. People react as if he PERSONALLY offended them in some way. I'll show you, Diggs! SMH

http://www.drafthistory.com/index.php/positions/wr

do you honestly think it was the tweets alone that pushed Rick to accept this offer?  it certainly wasnt the offer that blew his skirt up, its not bad,  but its not that earth shattering,    just because the dirt wasnt reaching the fans doesnt mean there wasnt more to this trade than a kid on a cell phone.   

Of course not. I was mocking everyone who got upset by them. 

@"Geoff Nichols" said:

@"StickyBun" said: 30 TDs in 5 seasons played. Averaging just over 5 a season. I don't think his numbers are so high they can't be replaced. Only 2 1,000 yard seasons and just barely above 1,000. 

I wouldn't let the numbers trick you into thinking Diggs' talent can be replaced, it can't. His route running is some of the best I've ever seen. His ability to separate is a QB's best friend. 

But you don't need a player as talented as Diggs for this offense to function effectively. Diggs talent wasn't maximized since Kirk won't cut the ball loose when his receivers are contested and won't come off his keys. For that reason I see Diggs level of frustration because he was at times playing on another level and the ball wouldn't come. In wk 2 against the Packers he should have had 200+ yards and 3 TDs. Against the Bears he should have gone for 200+ as well. Those games combined he had 8 receptions for about 150 yards and a single TD. 

If you aren't going to use it, allocate the resources elsewhere. 

His route running has been analyzed around the league and he’s widely considered an elite route runner. We ARE going to miss him, no doubt. Thielen and Diggs worked very well together so that chemistry is shot, too. 

Again, I truly do feel the team probably had to move on from him, and probably didn’t have much of a choice about it. Diggs is going to have a super-sized chip on his shoulder this season so if Allen can throw the ball anywhere near him, look out.

...all I keep thinking about was that awful home game against the Bills...

Looking for the over/under

Which week will the Bills fine Diggs for missing meetings and practices when he gets frustrated by Josh Allen and his 8% deep ball completion %? 

I'm thinking week 3

@"BarrNone55" said: Looking for the over/under

Which week will the Bills fine Diggs for missing meetings and practices when he gets frustrated by Josh Allen and his 8% deep ball completion %? 

I'm thinking week 3

OH!   and how much fun would it be now to draft his brother?

@"JimmyinSD" said: OH!   and how much fun would it be now to draft his brother?

Diggs was at or near the top of the League in contested catches again this year. The notion that Kirk wouldn't throw it to him unless he was wide open was flat out overstated by Guru.

I find it interesting that SilverJoel posted a side-by-side comparison of the two star Wideouts production when playing without the other that not 1 single proponent of the deal has commented on....

This Franchise is screwed if they can't learn to handle big egos and childish behavior. You think the younger generations coming up are less entitled? Less apt to air their dirty laundry on Social Media? Less likely to have a Me-First Mentality?

I am a Recruiter. For the largest online retailer in the world. I'm Gen X and find myself shaking my head on a daily basis at the outlandish expectations these kids have coming out of school. Degreed Engineers looking for C Suite money with terrible written communication skills and not much better social skills.

You know what? I don't have to like them to recruit them. And my Hiring Mangers find ways get them to be productive quickly, despite the drama.

Now imagine that same age group getting millions of dollars to play Sports. With their huge group of groupthink hangers-on. And their penchant to play video games and blab on Social Media instead of going outside and engaging with humans in person.

The Minnesota Vikings have now failed 3 times at WR and once at RB when it comes to dealing with highly productive divas. One of the Receivers is in the HOF. The RB will be one day, too.

And who's to say Adam isn't next out the door? He factually performed less well than Diggs on his own. His methodology may differ but why assume he would be happy with his targets and not follow Diggs' path?

Oh, he'd never do that, you'll say. Why? Cuz he's white? He's already called his QB out publicly. And by doing so called out Zimmer's run-first preference in the process. 

I don't know if it's an Upper Midwest thing, a Wilf thing, a Rick thing or a Zimmer thing. At some point the franchise needs to stop acting like a grumpy old man yelling at the kids on his lawn and learn how to manage around the behavior. Ignore him and fine him. Sooner than later it will work. Kids need cash and so do their hanger-ons.

Most of you want to win a Super Bowl before you die. Me, too. I don't see that happening if they can't learn to deal with precocious talents. This was hardly Owens or Brown level acting out. But if Diggs' behavior is the bar you're going to see more kids wanting out only to be replaced by much less talented players who happen to keep their mouths shut.