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Diggs traded to Buffalo

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OMG!  my heart sank. just announced.

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@"BarrNone55" said:
@"BlackMagic7" said: I think deep down we are all just ashamed that BarrNone was right this whole time.

We're not worthy man, we are not worthy. Going to rest my fingers on my mechanical keyboard, close my eyes and ask the spirits of the internet for closure on this one...


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#64 · Mar 17, 6:42 AM
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This is a VERY deep receiving class so I imagine that played a part in the trade. Like I said a month or two ago, four total playoff catches from your #1 receiver doesn't make him "great" so I'm not upset about this trade. Does it put a lot of pressure on RS to hit on both first round picks? Absolutely. Restructure Reiff, trade/restructure Anthony Harris, and then draft WR and CB/OT/DT with your first round picks, then one of the other three in the second round, and do the same in the third. 

We have drafted well lately so I have a lot of confidence in the Front Office to do the same again this year. I will never forget the Minneapolis Miracle, but this trade was the right move.

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Just a reminder to those who think the draft is a candy store...taking off the last two years because the results are largely unknown, here are the top 4 receivers taken the three years prior...Note that FIVE of them are top 10 picks. 

2017
1
1
5
5
Corey Davis
Titans
Western Michigan

2
1
7
7
Mike Williams
Chargers
Clemson

3
1
9
9
John Ross
Bengals
Washington

4
2
5
37
Zay Jones
Bills
East Carolina

2016
1
1
15
15
Corey Coleman
Browns
Baylor

2
1
21
21
Will Fuller
Texans
Notre Dame

3
1
22
22
Josh Doctson
Redskins
Texas Christian

4
1
23
23
Laquon Treadwell
Vikings
Mississippi

2015
1
1
4
4
Amari Cooper
Raiders
Alabama

2
1
7
7
Kevin White
Bears
West Virginia

3
1
14
14
DeVante Parker
Dolphins
Louisville

4
1
20
20
Nelson Agholor
Eagles

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@"StickyBun" said:
@"BarrNone55" said:
Josh Allen struggled on deep passes last season - 14/63, 4 TD, 3 INT, 59.7 passer rating (27th among 32 qualified QB), with 10 of 14 deep completions targeting John Brown.
In a related story, Stefon Diggs sets world record in the helmet toss.
Honestly, Diggs can't be loving this. He's going to go full diva on Allen, watch and see. Josh is not accurate. Diggs will be highly frustrated.
God, I hope so.  Vikes did pretty well tading their #2 Diva WR.  I'll miss his big play ability, but not all of his BS.  He's no AT that's for sure.
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@"Ralphie" said:
@"BarrNone55" said:
@"BlackMagic7" said: I think deep down we are all just ashamed that BarrNone was right this whole time.

We're not worthy man, we are not worthy. Going to rest my fingers on my mechanical keyboard, close my eyes and ask the spirits of the internet for closure on this one...


You may approach...

Lol

At some point, you all are going to realize I'm not just some pretty face.



The lovely AND talented, Mr. Barr? ;)


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#68 · Mar 17, 7:06 AM
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@"BarrNone55" said:
@"Geoff Nichols" said: I am shocked since they were truly not planning to move him. But there are packages that are sometimes too good to pass up. 2 picks in the top 25 will go a long ways. 

Although they eat the dead money this season this lets them stay active in FA this off-season and move some money into 2021 without repercussion. 


To be honest, I'm not shocked in the least. If you go back to Rick's comments about Harvin, he used almost exactly the same syntax when talking about Diggs. 

 Listening closely, he practically announced he was trading Diggs at the Combine.

That being said, I was hoping we'd trade him to Vegas and be in the running for Jeudy or Lamb. 



I think Breer's tweet from this morning helped me understand how quickly this happened. They really didn't start talking with Buffalo until yesterday afternoon. So truth be told, Spielman wasn't really lying at the combine. 

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@"HappyViking" said:
@"StickyBun" said:
@"BarrNone55" said:
Josh Allen struggled on deep passes last season - 14/63, 4 TD, 3 INT, 59.7 passer rating (27th among 32 qualified QB), with 10 of 14 deep completions targeting John Brown.
In a related story, Stefon Diggs sets world record in the helmet toss.
Honestly, Diggs can't be loving this. He's going to go full diva on Allen, watch and see. Josh is not accurate. Diggs will be highly frustrated.
God, I hope so.  Vikes did pretty well tading their #2 Diva WR.  I'll miss his big play ability, but not all of his BS.  He's no AT that's for sure.
Hopefully the hamstring issues won't be an issue for Adam Thielen. We'll have to wait and see on that. I also hope that the offense continues to evolve. But they still need OL help no matter what weapons they have.
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#70 · Mar 17, 7:20 AM
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Some of you guys are calling this "a haul"...seriously? I see exactly ONE premium draft pick, the first rounder (and it ain't a top 10 pick). After that we have a couple of late picks, which are a crapshoot, and a 4th rounder - next year. Great, a 4th round pick , where the Vikings have recently acquired such contributors as Jalyn Holmes, Willie Beavers, TJ Clemmings, and Jaleel Johnson. But hey, maybe we'll strike gold with that pick and get someone on the level of Ben Gedeon!
The Bills just acquired one of the 10 (maybe 5) best WRs in the NFL, only 26 years old, and will pair him with John Brown, who caught 72 passes for over 1,000 yards as a rookie. We received the 22nd pick (yay, 1 pick higher than we picked Laquon Treadwell!), and our #2 WR is now Bisi Johnson.

Unless Diggs was a genuine locker-room cancer far beyond anything reported and will melt down in Antonio Brown style within a year, this trade is a tragedy for the Vikings.

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@"Jor-El" said:
Some of you guys are calling this "a haul"...seriously? I see exactly ONE premium draft pick, the first rounder (and it ain't a top 10 pick). After that we have a couple of late picks, which are a crapshoot, and a 4th rounder - next year. Great, a 4th round pick , where the Vikings have recently acquired such contributors as Jalyn Holmes, Willie Beavers, TJ Clemmings, and Jaleel Johnson. But hey, maybe we'll strike gold with that pick and get someone on the level of Ben Gedeon! The Bills just acquired one of the 10 (maybe 5) best WRs in the NFL, only 26 years old, and will pair him with John Brown, who caught 72 passes for over 1,000 yards as a rookie. We received the 22nd pick (yay, 1 pick higher than we picked Laquon Treadwell!), and our #2 WR is now Bisi Johnson.

Unless Diggs was a genuine locker-room cancer far beyond anything reported and will melt down in Antonio Brown style within a year, this trade is a tragedy for the Vikings.



Well said. Absolutely nothing to add.

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#72 · Mar 17, 7:37 AM
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I find it more than a little ironic the Vikes trade away Diggs on the same day they extend Capt'n Kirk for a couple more years.  Wouldn't you think they'd want to surround KC with all the best WR targets available on the team? 

I suspect the diva Diggs was a much bigger PITA than any of us really know, and KC probably isn't too upset to see him gone.

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@"MaroonBells" said: Just a reminder to those who think the draft is a candy store...taking off the last two years because the results are largely unknown, here are the top 4 receivers taken the three years prior...Note that FIVE of them are top 10 picks. 

2017
1
1
5
5
Corey Davis
Titans
Western Michigan

2
1
7
7
Mike Williams
Chargers
Clemson

3
1
9
9
John Ross
Bengals
Washington

4
2
5
37
Zay Jones
Bills
East Carolina

2016
1
1
15
15
Corey Coleman
Browns
Baylor

2
1
21
21
Will Fuller
Texans
Notre Dame

3
1
22
22
Josh Doctson
Redskins
Texas Christian

4
1
23
23
Laquon Treadwell
Vikings
Mississippi

2015
1
1
4
4
Amari Cooper
Raiders
Alabama

2
1
7
7
Kevin White
Bears
West Virginia

3
1
14
14
DeVante Parker
Dolphins
Louisville

4
1
20
20
Nelson Agholor
Eagles



Speaking of Zay Jones, I would not pair him with Diggs in road game hotel rooms.

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#74 · Mar 17, 7:47 AM
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Done deal...it's over...moving on.  The window of opportunity is probably closing or maybe even closed, every team in the NFL goes through this.  The Vikings need to reload through the draft, unload huge contracts and yes, move players such as Diggs.  I follow the team and not really individual players. 

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#75 · Mar 17, 7:48 AM
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@MaroonBells

This year is a different animal all together. 

That being said, WR is a damn hard slot to draft for. To be honest, I like the kid from Kentucky Day 3 as a possible lighting striking again candidate.

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@"MaroonBells" said: Just a reminder to those who think the draft is a candy store...taking off the last two years because the results are largely unknown, here are the top 4 receivers taken the three years prior...Note that FIVE of them are top 10 picks. 

2017
1
1
5
5
Corey Davis
Titans
Western Michigan

2
1
7
7
Mike Williams
Chargers
Clemson

3
1
9
9
John Ross
Bengals
Washington

4
2
5
37
Zay Jones
Bills
East Carolina

2016
1
1
15
15
Corey Coleman
Browns
Baylor

2
1
21
21
Will Fuller
Texans
Notre Dame

3
1
22
22
Josh Doctson
Redskins
Texas Christian

4
1
23
23
Laquon Treadwell
Vikings
Mississippi

2015
1
1
4
4
Amari Cooper
Raiders
Alabama

2
1
7
7
Kevin White
Bears
West Virginia

3
1
14
14
DeVante Parker
Dolphins
Louisville

4
1
20
20
Nelson Agholor
Eagles



Very fair point, but both DJ Moore and Calvin Ridley from 2018 are good receivers. 2019, yes jury is still out. I still like my chances with Ceedee Lamb and Jerry Jeudy (if we were to get one). If neither are available at 22 then select OL/DT/CB and then do the same at 25. Plenty of good receivers you can get in the second/third round too

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https://www.espn.com/blog/minnesota-vikings/post/_/id/29652/vikings-are-the-big-winner-of-stefon-diggs-trade-to-the-bills?platform=amp

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#78 · Mar 17, 7:54 AM
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Sigh...

Doesn't do much for my already battered disposition these days...

Talent @ Wideout like Diggs is not easy to come-by. We languished for seasons on end at the position and AT isn't getting any younger either. 

The 22nd pick doesnt overjoy mer. Maybe I am underestimating it's value. Now, if this was a pick in the top 12? I might be a bit giddy even. 

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@"BarrNone55" said: https://www.espn.com/blog/minnesota-vikings/post/_/id/29652/vikings-are-the-big-winner-of-stefon-diggs-trade-to-the-bills?platform=amp
No more drama. No more cryptic tweets. No more wondering whether there's "truth to all rumors," particularly those that involve trading a receiver in his prime and questions about whether he wants out. Yes, thank you, Courtney. My life is SO much easier now...
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@"MaroonBells" said: Just a reminder to those who think the draft is a candy store...taking off the last two years because the results are largely unknown, here are the top 4 receivers taken the three years prior...Note that FIVE of them are top 10 picks. 

2017
1
1
5
5
Corey Davis
Titans
Western Michigan

2
1
7
7
Mike Williams
Chargers
Clemson

3
1
9
9
John Ross
Bengals
Washington

4
2
5
37
Zay Jones
Bills
East Carolina

2016
1
1
15
15
Corey Coleman
Browns
Baylor

2
1
21
21
Will Fuller
Texans
Notre Dame

3
1
22
22
Josh Doctson
Redskins
Texas Christian

4
1
23
23
Laquon Treadwell
Vikings
Mississippi

2015
1
1
4
4
Amari Cooper
Raiders
Alabama

2
1
7
7
Kevin White
Bears
West Virginia

3
1
14
14
DeVante Parker
Dolphins
Louisville

4
1
20
20
Nelson Agholor
Eagles



On the flip side, none of those drafts were viewed as being particularly deep at WR.  This draft seems more like the 2014 draft that had Mike Evans, Odell, Sammy Watkins, Kelvin Benjamin, and Brandin Cooks as the headliners and also had Davante Adams, Allen Robinson, Jarvis Landry, and others viewed as strong Day 2 picks.

The Vikings don't need draft a WR with the first round pick they acquired for Diggs.  If anything, they have the flexibility to move around the draft and target a wide variety of players.  We could move up into the top 15 picks without sabotaging our draft and grab Lamb or Jeudy if they slip out of the top 10... or we could move up for an OT...  or we could stay put and use our 2nd or a couple mid-round picks to attack a deep WR class.

The Vikings have plenty of options to fill holes with good prospects.

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