OT: Coronavirus
Wow....
I’ve flown in and out of Denver Airport roughly 50 times. I’ve never seen it empty like this.
Yeah, DIA is never that empty. My goodness, this thing has really gotten ahold of people. But I suspect that it's going to make a far bigger dent in the global economy than the global population.
What changes have you made? Personally, I have tickets to fly to San Francisco with my kids to see my brother in a couple of weeks. And, so far anyway, I plan to go. But I have to say I'm a little nervous about it, especially with my kids. Not as much about the virus as how people are panicking about it. A flight yesterday was rerouted to Denver because someone, um...sneezed. And I am narrowing in on some ridiculously priced tickets to Cancun in May. Am I crazy?
“A gentleman is someone who can play the accordion, but doesn't." - Tom Waits
@"purplefaithful" said:@"JimmyinSD" said:@"purplefaithful" said:@"kmillard" said:I think they recognize that and we'll see differences depending on demography. At least I hope so.@"JimmyinSD" said:Well I believe the treating of the whole country like NYC is silly.@"Vikergirl" said: https://twitter.com/AP/status/1250095233632808961?s=19 not making a political statement here, but its funny how this guys is like teflon... he has made a lot of statements that in hindsight have proven to be inaccurate. he is our leading expert and has been proven wrong by this thing as much as he's been right. its no wonder the country is turned on itself when even the experts are wrong more than a weather man. what are we all to believe?What they do in Jimmys part of the world in South Dakota (which never issued a SAH order) will look vastly different than NYS or even MN.
This also quickly leads into a discussion of Governors vs Feds and who has the final say on how and when.
Even big states governed by Cuomo and Newsome may do things radically different from each other.
even in regions of states, what would have been best in SFalls, wouldnt have made sense in other places necessarily. even the timing of the stay at home orders. a nation wide blanket order would have been futile and useless based on the spread, just as a nationwide reopening would be equally ignorant as we are all at different stages with this thing in terms of herd exposure and any developed immunity.I am really hoping this pin prick test for immunity is able to be mass produced rapidly so that we can start clearing parts of the country and especially certain industries to get the economy starting to roll again. I dont agree with the sentiment of the the president that this economy is going to come roaring back, if we reopen the country cautiously and smart it will result in a slow restart, but it will be the smartest way to do it until more is known or we will be back to quarantining in a matter of a few months.
hell, Smithfield Meat Packing Plant should have had it's own set of rules, let alone a county.
oh, by the way... pop quiz.... who owns smithfield foods?let the conspiracy theories fly now!
@"JimmyinSD" said:@"purplefaithful" said:@"JimmyinSD" said:@"purplefaithful" said:@"kmillard" said:I think they recognize that and we'll see differences depending on demography. At least I hope so.@"JimmyinSD" said:Well I believe the treating of the whole country like NYC is silly.@"Vikergirl" said: https://twitter.com/AP/status/1250095233632808961?s=19 not making a political statement here, but its funny how this guys is like teflon... he has made a lot of statements that in hindsight have proven to be inaccurate. he is our leading expert and has been proven wrong by this thing as much as he's been right. its no wonder the country is turned on itself when even the experts are wrong more than a weather man. what are we all to believe?What they do in Jimmys part of the world in South Dakota (which never issued a SAH order) will look vastly different than NYS or even MN.
This also quickly leads into a discussion of Governors vs Feds and who has the final say on how and when.
Even big states governed by Cuomo and Newsome may do things radically different from each other.
even in regions of states, what would have been best in SFalls, wouldnt have made sense in other places necessarily. even the timing of the stay at home orders. a nation wide blanket order would have been futile and useless based on the spread, just as a nationwide reopening would be equally ignorant as we are all at different stages with this thing in terms of herd exposure and any developed immunity.I am really hoping this pin prick test for immunity is able to be mass produced rapidly so that we can start clearing parts of the country and especially certain industries to get the economy starting to roll again. I dont agree with the sentiment of the the president that this economy is going to come roaring back, if we reopen the country cautiously and smart it will result in a slow restart, but it will be the smartest way to do it until more is known or we will be back to quarantining in a matter of a few months.
hell, Smithfield Meat Packing Plant should have had it's own set of rules, let alone a county.
thats been one of my biggest disappointments from a multiple standpoints. I know for a fact that our Gov has been very on top of each case (especially the deaths) early on in this disease and that tracking those early cases back to contain spread was a priority. I have to think that there was more at play here than a lack of a stay at home order that allowed that packing plant to go to shit like it has. lots of misinformation on that specific issue and lots of finger pointing is sure to come. what rattles me is that everybody keeps pointing the fingers at the govt agency above them... there was no reason that sioux falls itself or even the 2 major counties down there couldnt have acted sooner. of course Smithfield is the one IMO that should be the first to be held to the fire for failing to keep their employees safe. I would suggest lawsuits could be coming. Ultimately though, this is on the employees that went to work sick and infected their co-workers, absolutely selfish no matter what the reasoning behind it. I am waiting for it to now spread to all the dairies in the area since the packing house is closed there will be a shit load of unskilled labor looking to make a pay check and they wont follow any orders to stay home.
That assumes a lot Jimmy...1). They knew they were ill
2). They went to work not feeling wellEverything I read and hear is that there is a lot of asymptomatic people out there.
Which leads us right back to anti-body and testing too. And it won't take mos to turn that flattened curve into a "U". I think it would be a matter of weeks -- even assuming a 2 week latency.
@"JimmyinSD" said:@"purplefaithful" said:@"JimmyinSD" said:@"purplefaithful" said:@"kmillard" said:I think they recognize that and we'll see differences depending on demography. At least I hope so.@"JimmyinSD" said:Well I believe the treating of the whole country like NYC is silly.@"Vikergirl" said: https://twitter.com/AP/status/1250095233632808961?s=19 not making a political statement here, but its funny how this guys is like teflon... he has made a lot of statements that in hindsight have proven to be inaccurate. he is our leading expert and has been proven wrong by this thing as much as he's been right. its no wonder the country is turned on itself when even the experts are wrong more than a weather man. what are we all to believe?What they do in Jimmys part of the world in South Dakota (which never issued a SAH order) will look vastly different than NYS or even MN.
This also quickly leads into a discussion of Governors vs Feds and who has the final say on how and when.
Even big states governed by Cuomo and Newsome may do things radically different from each other.
even in regions of states, what would have been best in SFalls, wouldnt have made sense in other places necessarily. even the timing of the stay at home orders. a nation wide blanket order would have been futile and useless based on the spread, just as a nationwide reopening would be equally ignorant as we are all at different stages with this thing in terms of herd exposure and any developed immunity.I am really hoping this pin prick test for immunity is able to be mass produced rapidly so that we can start clearing parts of the country and especially certain industries to get the economy starting to roll again. I dont agree with the sentiment of the the president that this economy is going to come roaring back, if we reopen the country cautiously and smart it will result in a slow restart, but it will be the smartest way to do it until more is known or we will be back to quarantining in a matter of a few months.
hell, Smithfield Meat Packing Plant should have had it's own set of rules, let alone a county.
thats been one of my biggest disappointments from a multiple standpoints. I know for a fact that our Gov has been very on top of each case (especially the deaths) early on in this disease and that tracking those early cases back to contain spread was a priority. I have to think that there was more at play here than a lack of a stay at home order that allowed that packing plant to go to shit like it has. lots of misinformation on that specific issue and lots of finger pointing is sure to come. what rattles me is that everybody keeps pointing the fingers at the govt agency above them... there was no reason that sioux falls itself or even the 2 major counties down there couldnt have acted sooner. of course Smithfield is the one IMO that should be the first to be held to the fire for failing to keep their employees safe. I would suggest lawsuits could be coming. Ultimately though, this is on the employees that went to work sick and infected their co-workers, absolutely selfish no matter what the reasoning behind it. I am waiting for it to now spread to all the dairies in the area since the packing house is closed there will be a shit load of unskilled labor looking to make a pay check and they wont follow any orders to stay home.The Iowa attorney general explained it in a Q&A that our State Constitution doesn't allow for city, county other local entity to have more strict laws than the State.
It's easy to put it on the employee, but you are contagious before you show symptoms, that's the testing thing. If you know you got it, your two weeks too late to stop the spread
@"purplefaithful" said:@"JimmyinSD" said:@"purplefaithful" said:@"JimmyinSD" said:@"purplefaithful" said:@"kmillard" said:I think they recognize that and we'll see differences depending on demography. At least I hope so.@"JimmyinSD" said:Well I believe the treating of the whole country like NYC is silly.@"Vikergirl" said: https://twitter.com/AP/status/1250095233632808961?s=19 not making a political statement here, but its funny how this guys is like teflon... he has made a lot of statements that in hindsight have proven to be inaccurate. he is our leading expert and has been proven wrong by this thing as much as he's been right. its no wonder the country is turned on itself when even the experts are wrong more than a weather man. what are we all to believe?What they do in Jimmys part of the world in South Dakota (which never issued a SAH order) will look vastly different than NYS or even MN.
This also quickly leads into a discussion of Governors vs Feds and who has the final say on how and when.
Even big states governed by Cuomo and Newsome may do things radically different from each other.
even in regions of states, what would have been best in SFalls, wouldnt have made sense in other places necessarily. even the timing of the stay at home orders. a nation wide blanket order would have been futile and useless based on the spread, just as a nationwide reopening would be equally ignorant as we are all at different stages with this thing in terms of herd exposure and any developed immunity.I am really hoping this pin prick test for immunity is able to be mass produced rapidly so that we can start clearing parts of the country and especially certain industries to get the economy starting to roll again. I dont agree with the sentiment of the the president that this economy is going to come roaring back, if we reopen the country cautiously and smart it will result in a slow restart, but it will be the smartest way to do it until more is known or we will be back to quarantining in a matter of a few months.
hell, Smithfield Meat Packing Plant should have had it's own set of rules, let alone a county.
thats been one of my biggest disappointments from a multiple standpoints. I know for a fact that our Gov has been very on top of each case (especially the deaths) early on in this disease and that tracking those early cases back to contain spread was a priority. I have to think that there was more at play here than a lack of a stay at home order that allowed that packing plant to go to shit like it has. lots of misinformation on that specific issue and lots of finger pointing is sure to come. what rattles me is that everybody keeps pointing the fingers at the govt agency above them... there was no reason that sioux falls itself or even the 2 major counties down there couldnt have acted sooner. of course Smithfield is the one IMO that should be the first to be held to the fire for failing to keep their employees safe. I would suggest lawsuits could be coming. Ultimately though, this is on the employees that went to work sick and infected their co-workers, absolutely selfish no matter what the reasoning behind it. I am waiting for it to now spread to all the dairies in the area since the packing house is closed there will be a shit load of unskilled labor looking to make a pay check and they wont follow any orders to stay home.
That assumes a lot Jimmy...1). They knew they were ill
2). They went to work not feeling wellEverything I read and hear is that there is a lot of asymptomatic people out there.
Which leads us right back to anti-body and testing too. And it won't take mos to turn that flattened curve into a "U". I think it would be a matter of weeks -- even assuming a 2 week latency.
well there certainly seems to be a lot of desire to point fingers in this country and since this was an essential business (food supply source) they werent going to get shut down in any state until something like this happens, i go back to the individuals being the first responsible party. and I wonder how many people are really asymptomatic vs just not wanting to miss that pay check or get stuck at home? I am not really a blame assigner but i will almost always say that we are responsible for ourselves first.
@"BigAl99" said:@"JimmyinSD" said:@"purplefaithful" said:@"JimmyinSD" said:@"purplefaithful" said:@"kmillard" said:I think they recognize that and we'll see differences depending on demography. At least I hope so.@"JimmyinSD" said:Well I believe the treating of the whole country like NYC is silly.@"Vikergirl" said: https://twitter.com/AP/status/1250095233632808961?s=19 not making a political statement here, but its funny how this guys is like teflon... he has made a lot of statements that in hindsight have proven to be inaccurate. he is our leading expert and has been proven wrong by this thing as much as he's been right. its no wonder the country is turned on itself when even the experts are wrong more than a weather man. what are we all to believe?What they do in Jimmys part of the world in South Dakota (which never issued a SAH order) will look vastly different than NYS or even MN.
This also quickly leads into a discussion of Governors vs Feds and who has the final say on how and when.
Even big states governed by Cuomo and Newsome may do things radically different from each other.
even in regions of states, what would have been best in SFalls, wouldnt have made sense in other places necessarily. even the timing of the stay at home orders. a nation wide blanket order would have been futile and useless based on the spread, just as a nationwide reopening would be equally ignorant as we are all at different stages with this thing in terms of herd exposure and any developed immunity.I am really hoping this pin prick test for immunity is able to be mass produced rapidly so that we can start clearing parts of the country and especially certain industries to get the economy starting to roll again. I dont agree with the sentiment of the the president that this economy is going to come roaring back, if we reopen the country cautiously and smart it will result in a slow restart, but it will be the smartest way to do it until more is known or we will be back to quarantining in a matter of a few months.
hell, Smithfield Meat Packing Plant should have had it's own set of rules, let alone a county.
thats been one of my biggest disappointments from a multiple standpoints. I know for a fact that our Gov has been very on top of each case (especially the deaths) early on in this disease and that tracking those early cases back to contain spread was a priority. I have to think that there was more at play here than a lack of a stay at home order that allowed that packing plant to go to shit like it has. lots of misinformation on that specific issue and lots of finger pointing is sure to come. what rattles me is that everybody keeps pointing the fingers at the govt agency above them... there was no reason that sioux falls itself or even the 2 major counties down there couldnt have acted sooner. of course Smithfield is the one IMO that should be the first to be held to the fire for failing to keep their employees safe. I would suggest lawsuits could be coming. Ultimately though, this is on the employees that went to work sick and infected their co-workers, absolutely selfish no matter what the reasoning behind it. I am waiting for it to now spread to all the dairies in the area since the packing house is closed there will be a shit load of unskilled labor looking to make a pay check and they wont follow any orders to stay home.The Iowa attorney general explained it in a Q&A that our State Constitution doesn't allow for city, county other local entity to have more strict laws than the State.
It's easy to put it on the employee, but you are contagious before you show symptoms, that's the testing thing. If you know you got it, your two weeks too late to stop the spread
thats a very interesting law and one that likely could be challenged if in fact it is legit. Cities do a lot of things that arent state laws like curfews, snow ordinances and such. I know here in SD that Beadle County (Huron) took action and mandated some closures and stay at home stuff early on since they were the fastest growing area in SD right out of the gate.EDIT: I do believe that local govts cant over rule higher mandates in terms of leniency, like lowering their drinking ages and shit like that.
Remember when the kiddies were calling this the "BOOMER DOOMER", or other cute names because they were told that it wouldnt affect them? about half our cases are people under 40 here.
| Age Range | # of Cases | # of Deaths |
|---|---|---|
| 0 to 19 years | 44 | 0 |
| 20 to 29 years | 187 | 0 |
| 30 to 39 years | 246 | 0 |
| 40 to 49 years | 187 | 0 |
| 50 to 59 years | 182 | 2 |
| 60 to 69 years | 110 | 1 |
| 70 to 79 years | 18 | 1 |
| 80+ years | 14 | 2 |
@"JimmyinSD" said: Remember when the kiddies were calling this the "BOOMER DOOMER", or other cute names because they were told that it wouldnt affect them? about half our cases are people under 40 here.
AGE GROUP OF SOUTH DAKOTA COVID-19 CASES Age Range # of Cases # of Deaths 0 to 19 years 44
0
20 to 29 years 187
0
30 to 39 years 246
0
40 to 49 years 187
0
50 to 59 years 182
2
60 to 69 years 110
1
70 to 79 years 18
1
80+ years 14
2
SD is an outlier state (but we already knew that lol!)
CDC dot gov has updates through 4/14, scroll down and you'll see deaths by age cohort and it tells a very different tale vs SD.
https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/COVID19/index.htm
@"purplefaithful" said:@"JimmyinSD" said: Remember when the kiddies were calling this the "BOOMER DOOMER", or other cute names because they were told that it wouldnt affect them? about half our cases are people under 40 here.
AGE GROUP OF SOUTH DAKOTA COVID-19 CASES Age Range # of Cases # of Deaths 0 to 19 years 44
0
20 to 29 years 187
0
30 to 39 years 246
0
40 to 49 years 187
0
50 to 59 years 182
2
60 to 69 years 110
1
70 to 79 years 18
1
80+ years 14
2
SD is an outlier state (but we already knew that lol!)CDC dot gov has updates through 4/14, scroll down and you'll see deaths by age cohort and it tells a very different tale vs SD.
https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/COVID19/index.htm
I am guessing that it has to do with the number of working age people in "essential" jobs in SD that are more exposed than in other states expressed in a relation to the overall population... for example working in a meat packing plant. ;)
My educated guess is about 75-100 people now, with about half in their cars. Every 15 minutes or do demonstrators let loose with their horns. @ABC11_WTVD @ABC #abc1- @ABCPolitics #coronavirusNC #ReopenNC #StayAtHome pic.twitter.com/prKWSeSn3G
— Jonah Kaplan (@JonahPKaplan) April 14, 2020
Might have to rethink my move to Charlotte.
Ventilator OEMs are blocking service manuals, PDF sharing over the internet:
@"BlackMagic7" said: Ventilator OEMs are blocking service manuals, PDF sharing over the internet:
might have something to do with liability? ( i didnt watch much of the video )
@"BarrNone55" said: Might have to rethink my move to Charlotte.Is that the local meat packing plant? Such a lovely part of the country too.
Maybe its time for Darwinism to assert him or herself even more than it's already doing?
I get peoples frustrations, fears...But holy son of god.
@"JimmyinSD" said:I dont really have an opinion on the guy one way or another. But Something I think people continually miss whether it be things Fauci or "fill in the blank politician" say. Or a model shows, is that we arent talking about a static topic, its a biological life form that has countless variables impacting its growth. The point of social distancing, obsessive hand washing, sheltering in place, shutting down gatherings and so on was to do the very thing people are shitting on these models and experts for being "wrong about".If the deaths and cases are ending up fewer than thought 2,3,4 weeks ago thats what we wanted from the precautions, right? So then the precautions to varying degrees are working, right?@"Vikergirl" said: https://twitter.com/AP/status/1250095233632808961?s=19 not making a political statement here, but its funny how this guys is like teflon... he has made a lot of statements that in hindsight have proven to be inaccurate. he is our leading expert and has been proven wrong by this thing as much as he's been right. its no wonder the country is turned on itself when even the experts are wrong more than a weather man. what are we all to believe?
@"BarrNone55" said: https://twitter.com/i/status/1250088631391465478Might have to rethink my move to Charlotte.
Omg! Yeah I would definitely rethink that. What the hell is wrong with some people?
@"JimmyinSD" said:@"kmillard" said:totally different society than the selfish society we have, IMO that allowed for them to handle it differently than what was a best approach for the US. Also I would guess that underlying health issues are greater here in the US than in Sweden so they were less likely to really get hit as hard as we will. its really hard to compare apples to apples on this thing when they dont even understand the ramification of the variable from a health or society aspect yet.@"JimmyinSD" said:Well I believe the treating of the whole country like NYC is silly. Common sense says certain areas based on population and location can open up just fine and others will be in smaller increments. Funny how Sweden and others were able to not have issues just using good practices in public without shutting down.@"Vikergirl" said: https://twitter.com/AP/status/1250095233632808961?s=19 not making a political statement here, but its funny how this guys is like teflon... he has made a lot of statements that in hindsight have proven to be inaccurate. he is our leading expert and has been proven wrong by this thing as much as he's been right. its no wonder the country is turned on itself when even the experts are wrong more than a weather man. what are we all to believe?time will tell, i dont think there is a model response yet from any affected area.
Nailed it. Wish more people understood this. I live in a larger metro area in Iowa. Small by any measure of truly large metro areas nationwide, but larger than Iowa average. I have family that are farmers who live in remote northwest Iowa who are convinced this is a hoax because there are no cases in their county.They have known me my entire life, know I have no political affiliation, know what my work ethic and beliefs have been for my field the last 20 years I've been in it. Never hesitated to ask my opinion on the state of mental healthcare in the state/country. Always hit me up when they needed suggestions or referrals for services. And now suddenly they think I am "fake news" because their current reality with no cases, differs greatly from mine and loved ones I have working in healthcare in NYC.
The models assumed social distancing and proper hygiene practices already.
@"JimmyinSD" said:@"purplefaithful" said:@"JimmyinSD" said:@"purplefaithful" said:@"kmillard" said:I think they recognize that and we'll see differences depending on demography. At least I hope so.@"JimmyinSD" said:Well I believe the treating of the whole country like NYC is silly.@"Vikergirl" said: https://twitter.com/AP/status/1250095233632808961?s=19 not making a political statement here, but its funny how this guys is like teflon... he has made a lot of statements that in hindsight have proven to be inaccurate. he is our leading expert and has been proven wrong by this thing as much as he's been right. its no wonder the country is turned on itself when even the experts are wrong more than a weather man. what are we all to believe?What they do in Jimmys part of the world in South Dakota (which never issued a SAH order) will look vastly different than NYS or even MN.
This also quickly leads into a discussion of Governors vs Feds and who has the final say on how and when.
Even big states governed by Cuomo and Newsome may do things radically different from each other.
even in regions of states, what would have been best in SFalls, wouldnt have made sense in other places necessarily. even the timing of the stay at home orders. a nation wide blanket order would have been futile and useless based on the spread, just as a nationwide reopening would be equally ignorant as we are all at different stages with this thing in terms of herd exposure and any developed immunity.I am really hoping this pin prick test for immunity is able to be mass produced rapidly so that we can start clearing parts of the country and especially certain industries to get the economy starting to roll again. I dont agree with the sentiment of the the president that this economy is going to come roaring back, if we reopen the country cautiously and smart it will result in a slow restart, but it will be the smartest way to do it until more is known or we will be back to quarantining in a matter of a few months.
hell, Smithfield Meat Packing Plant should have had it's own set of rules, let alone a county.
oh, by the way... pop quiz.... who owns smithfield foods?let the conspiracy theories fly now!
the chinese of course.
@"JimmyinSD" said:It has more to do with the equipment manufactures making their equipment non-serviceable and bounding users to licensing agreements / terms of service that explicitly state repairs are to be done by (generally non-existent,) "authorized" repair channels.@"BlackMagic7" said: Ventilator OEMs are blocking service manuals, PDF sharing over the internet:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JqGiGgRSCI4
might have something to do with liability? ( i didnt watch much of the video )When ventilators go down, do we want the ingenuity of the Italians that 3d printed ventilator valves to get machines up and running as fast as those valves could be installed (perhaps using accessible services manuals) or … do we want people to die next to post it notes on machines until the manufacture can
get to the machinecall you back to schedule "service?"
@"bigbone62" said:i dont care about dates and numbers, thats all a guessing game based on variable that nobody can predict. I am talking about his statements about transfer and who should quarantine vs who would be fine to go on spring vacations and cruises and shit. we were all talking about this thing by mid March and he was still telling the media it was ok for healthy people to go on cruises. He is a very smart man, but I think his role has him a little out of his element at times and its reflected in what he has said.@"JimmyinSD" said:I dont really have an opinion on the guy one way or another. But Something I think people continually miss whether it be things Fauci or "fill in the blank politician" say. Or a model shows, is that we arent talking about a static topic, its a biological life form that has countless variables impacting its growth. The point of social distancing, obsessive hand washing, sheltering in place, shutting down gatherings and so on was to do the very thing people are shitting on these models and experts for being "wrong about".If the deaths and cases are ending up fewer than thought 2,3,4 weeks ago thats what we wanted from the precautions, right? So then the precautions to varying degrees are working, right?@"Vikergirl" said: https://twitter.com/AP/status/1250095233632808961?s=19 not making a political statement here, but its funny how this guys is like teflon... he has made a lot of statements that in hindsight have proven to be inaccurate. he is our leading expert and has been proven wrong by this thing as much as he's been right. its no wonder the country is turned on itself when even the experts are wrong more than a weather man. what are we all to believe?
California governor outlines plan to reopen in conjunction with West Coast states
The Democrat did not give a date that the current state-at-home order would end. It currently extends through May 3 statewide, and longer in places like Los Angeles, which has a stay-at-home in effect until May 15.
"There is no light switch here, it's more like a dimmer," Newsom said. "I know you want the timeline, but we can't get ahead of ourselves and dream of regretting. Let's not make the mistake of pulling the plug too early, as much as we want to."
"I don't want to make a political decision that puts people's lives at risk and puts the economy at even more risk by extending the period of time before we can ultimately transition and get people moving again."
He warned that Californians should prepare to enter a radically different realm where residents continue to wear masks, and where they may be greeted at restaurants by waiters wearing masks and gloves with disposable menus in venues that have half as many tables. Local school officials would develop new protocols, he said, for physical education classes and recess at schools, as well as processes to deeply clean and sanitize schools, parks and playgrounds to keep infection rates down.
Outlining a framework for reopening the economy, the California governor said the dates would be determined by the ability to do six things: expand testing to identify and isolate patients, maintain vigilance to protect seniors and high risk people, be able to meet future surges in hospitals with a "myriad of protective gear," continue to collaborate with academia on therapies and treatments, redraw regulations to ensure continued physical distancing at private businesses and schools and develop new enforcement mechanisms to allow the state to pull back and reinstate stay-at-home orders.
Newsom said it was an optimistic new phase where the state will move from its surge response, transitioning "into suppression, ultimately on our way to herd immunity, and ultimately to a vaccine."
"We are not out of the woods yet, we are not spiking the ball," Newsom said. "But we also extend a recognition in that light that this can't be a permanent state, and I want you to know, it's not -- it will not be a permanent state.
https://www.cnn.com/2020/04/14/politics/california-economy-coronavirus-newsom/index.html
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