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  It's still early, but worth watching...
Posted by: purplefaithful - 09-26-2017, 01:59 AM - Forum: The Longship - Replies (28)

 After ranking third in the NFL in total defense and sixth in scoring defense last season, the Vikings are 20th and 12th in those two categories through three games.
Not sure playing the Lions are going to help those stats...I just care about the W though. 

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  This weeks "Did you know?"
Posted by: purplefaithful - 09-26-2017, 01:56 AM - Forum: The Longship - No Replies

In Zimmer-coached games when the offense scores at least 21 points, they are 22-3?


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  X.R.
Posted by: purplefaithful - 09-26-2017, 01:45 AM - Forum: The Longship - Replies (22)

Mike Evans       67 yards
Antonio Brown 62 yards
0 TD's for either of em

Drops Mic...

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  Who's covering Golden Tate in the slot Sunday?
Posted by: purplefaithful - 09-26-2017, 01:09 AM - Forum: The Longship - Replies (2)

Newman, Alexander?
 
On the Lions radar, I'm sure...

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  Deion Sanders talks with Dalvin Cook
Posted by: Vikergirl - 09-26-2017, 12:53 AM - Forum: The Longship - Replies (1)

http://www.vikings.com/media-vault/video...8b7958d5ce

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  Great Quarterback Play, but it is the Offensive Line
Posted by: Guest - 09-25-2017, 11:32 PM - Forum: The Longship - Replies (16)

Great Quarterback Play, but it is the Offensive Line


 


One of the reason’s that the Vikings have achieved success
in their two wins (out of 3) is because their quarterback had time to throw,
and the Bucs and Saints quarterback didn’t.


The game of football is complicated, surely the most complex
team game in all sports.  However, even
the Patriots won’t win frequently when Tom Brady is harassed and hurried to
throw, and spends too much time on his back.


While the Viking offensive line is not the second coming of
the mid-1960s Green Bay Packer unit, they have begun to gel, and it shows in
both the run blocking, and the more exotic nature of the passing game that
Offensive Coordinator Pat Shurmur is allowed to deploy on game day.


Pat Elflein is a major upgrade over the combination of Joe
Berger and Nick Easton.    Elfein is but
has incredible athleticism and quick feet, which allows him to move fast enough
to get out and lead screen passes and sweeps. 
Meanwhile, Berger is more natural at the right guard position. 


Nick Easton is having some growing pains as he switches from
Center to Guard, but even with a few early season penalties, he is a more
reliable run blocker and pass protector than the over-priced Alex Boone ever
showed in Minnesota.


Which leaves us with the Tackles.  A position that was like a swinging gate in
recent years, as the starters there would simply say “Ole” and let their
defender get a straight shot at their quarterback. In fact, with TJ Clemmings
regularly manning one of the two tackle positions the last few  years, Sam Bradford and Teddy Bridgewater are
lucky they can chew solid foods.


Reilly Reiff is still catching up after missing the majority
of training camp and the preseason, but he is reliable and steady.   Meanwhile, Mike Remmers had his best game as
a Viking on Sunday.  As Pete Bercich
says, none of these guys are Pro Bowlers (although Elflein might be soon), but
the sum is much better than the individual pieces.     Most of all, when they are deficient, it
is a consistent deficiency that Viking line coaches can scheme around.


The result?  Two games
where different Viking starting QBs threw for monster yardage and QB ratings
above 140.


This has allowed Shurmur to open up his vertical passing
game, because his signal-callers have the time to look deep.  In the NFL, even a second-tier quarterback
who is accurate(read that as Case Keenum) can have a field day against
defenses, especially when the rules favor the offense.


But it isn’t just the passing game.  It is the a dedication to the run to mix
things up and keep defenses guessing. 
Sure, for the past 9 seasons, Viking offensive coordinators were going
to run Adrian Peterson up the gut in 8 and 9 man boxes.   But, they knew he was always going to run,
so they were better prepared to stop it.


Now, defenses don’t know if 3-down back Dalvin Cook is going
to run, block or catch a pass and burn them outside.  He doesn’t have the raw power that a Peterson
had, and is not as exciting when he breaks loose.  But, make no mistake about it, he is the much
better player at the running back position.


Cook has the patience to let holes develop with his inexperienced
line, and has an almost imperceptible wiggle in the hole that lets him find
room to run.  That’s part him and part
this line, which can dominate the line of scrimmage at times.   Best of all, there is no reason to believe the
line play will regress.


So, enjoy the 369 yard passing day, that came with 270 yards
from the wideout spots including Stefon Diggs and Adam Thielen’s big days.   Talk about our new running back who had 170
yards combined rushing and receiving, making us recall the days of the might
Viking all-purpose back Chuck Foreman.


Hail the defense for it’s ball hawking style and run
stuffing defense.   But, make no mistake,
this team is thriving where it matters most, in the trenches, and on the line.


The Viking offense is back – Beware Packers, Bears and
Lions!

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  NO to Dog Latavious Murray
Posted by: Tom Moore - 09-25-2017, 10:45 PM - Forum: The Longship - Replies (4)

But I see nothing form him that indicates he is the dynamic playmaker that Cook is.   Murray just kind of seems like a tall guy without much exciting to his running game.  I hope I'm wrong, because they'd be a nice 1-2 combo.

Imagine if we had not drafted Cook and just banked on Murray?  Even with the better blockers and scheme, not sure we'd be more than a 3-3.5 yard per carry team with Murray

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  OT: How NOT to celebrate a Vikings win... in the ER
Posted by: RS Express - 09-25-2017, 10:16 PM - Forum: The Longship - Replies (9)

Some of you at the tailgate met my friend Carl (old bearded guy with a cane).  Well we had fun meeting you guys, had a blast watching the Vikings roar out 28-3 and finish it off from the best seats we've had in 5 trips (section 311, 40 yard line), and then it was time to leave.  Uh-oh.

Carl took a spill down down the stairs and whacked his head on the floor hard enough to bleed and a couple other scrapes/bruises.  Fortunately there were a bunch of people to alert security/emt etc.  Down to the first aid room, then an ambulance (!) to Hennepin Medical center ER they said mostly as a precaution: they wanted to make sure Carl hadn't done anything to his neck, and he's had some past concussions. 

Got to Hennepin roughly 4PM, they had put a neck collar on him (again precautionary) and got around to CT and CAT scans as well as an EKG. We didn't call his wife yet before we had some actual results. "Hi honey I'm in the ER" isn't something you want to leave on a voice mail. Then he started having a pain in his chest.  On top of that, wearing the neck collar was really getting to him, making him agitated and I had to talk him down a bit and ask (pester?) one of the docs if they could please get the CT results and take the collar off because Carl was going buggy.

Maybe 5:30 the CT scan came back negative and the collar was taken off (Kenny Mayne voice, "And there was much rejoicing") but now there was this mysterious chest pain to deal with... was it a heart problem (Carl hasn't had any of that yet) or just some muscle bruise/pull?  Time for another CT scan, and by now it was 6PM and we figured we had to call his wife.  Easier said than done.  Cue an hour+  again of waiting for the CT scan results while I call his wife about 10 times and she's not answering.

Now for the  literal 411 on the modern age: With his wife out, the next try was to either his daughter or sons, but he's had them programmed on speed dial so long Carl no longer remembered the actual numbers (facepalm emoji) so we had to call 411 first to get the numbers before calling them.  And they were out too. (headbang emoji). By now it's 8PM and they decide to have Carl admitted for the night mostly because they can't nail down what that chest pain is.  Also possibly because he couldn't remember the fall... or pretty much the entire trip to Hennepin Medical, even though at the time he was answering questions both in the first aid room at USB and in the ambulance.

Finally, about 8:20 PM Carl got his wife on the phone, and had to sort out 2 complications:

1. We'd come up to the game on the light rail. His car was at the MOA. 

2. I'd come up on the bus for the weekend at his place. I had no car and my stuff was at Carl's place, including my return bus ticket. 

So Carl's wife Marlys had to contact the son or daughter, have them pick her up to get Carl's car at MOA, bring that up to Hennepin and take me back to their apartment, then up to the Greyhound depot Monday morning.

Just after 9PM, Carl gets the call that contact has been made and his wife is on the way.  Around 9:45, wife, daughter, granddaughter and son-in-law all show up along with the doctor.  Probably took them longer to find the room in that Hennepin maze than it did to get the car from MOA and drive up.  

After all that, I got home today without any further disasters and called 1/2 hour ago and found out Carl is out of the hospital (WHEW!).







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  With Likely Return of Bridgewater, Big Roster Decision Coming
Posted by: Tom Moore - 09-25-2017, 08:33 PM - Forum: The Longship - Replies (37)

Word is that Teddy Bridgewater IS ready for full participation when he comes off the PUP list in 3 weeks. 

Not only will Mike Zimmer have to select from a supposedly healthy Sam Bradford and a healthy Teddy Bridgewater, he also has to make a roster decision regarding who gets cut.

in fact, when Michael Floyd comes back in a week, Zimmer will have to chose which WR gets released.  It won't be Jarius Wright, it will likely either be Rodney Adams or Stacy Coley.  Both have more potential than LaQuon Treadwell, but no way they give up on a relatively high #1 choice this early after just 19 games.   Expect it to be Adams, as he has been deactivated from every game so far, now it is just a question of if he can pass through waivers unclaimed - he was a 5th rounder.

Meanwhile, Sam Bradford has to be the #1 QB, unless he sits 3 more weeks.  However, if he does that, and Keenum plays decent, I would think Shurmur would roll with Keenum to give Teddy more practices to get ready.   But, then, the question becomes, who do you cut?   You may say, "well, that's easy, you dump Kyle Sloter, as he becomes the 4th QB on a team that needs either 2 or 3.

But, that is a problem too.  The Vikings paid Sloter $27k a week to be on the practice squad because they liked him so much.  He is big, tall, rangy and a big arm.  He also knocked-the-socks off the Broncos in preseason play.  But, the Broncos cut him, hoping to put him on their own practice squad.  But, Sloter took the bigger financial offer.  Assuming (and a pretty good assumption) that either Sam or Teddy is not in Minnesota next year, then you need a quality #3 (or maybe he is a #2).  So, why cut him and run the risk that someone else picks him up?

Keeping 4 QBs is a luxury most teams simply do not have. However, having just 2 next training camp is not a scenario that the QB-starved Vikings can risk.

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  Matt Kalil
Posted by: VikingOracle - 09-25-2017, 08:19 PM - Forum: The Longship - Replies (8)

Look, I don't normally dump on former Vikings but when a former viking dumps on the Vikings ....

Matt Kalil in August: "The first [Oline coach] I’ve played for that kind of demands excellence from his offensive line room,” referring to Panther's coach.

Matt Kalil in yesterday about one sack: “Mental error on my part,” Kalil said. “I thought the slide was one way and I went the wrong way, so that’s not good.” 

Obviously, the Panther's superior coaching and demand for excellence doesn't correct all flaws.  Kalil gave up two sacks yesterday to the Saints, Vikings gave up one sack to the Saints total.

From the local Charlotte paper:

When offensive tackle Matt Kalil was signed by the Carolina Panthers as a free agent, he was brought in foremost to protect quarterback Cam Newton.
But that wasn’t the case Sunday during Carolina’s 34-13 loss to New Orleans. Instead, Kalil was a weak link on the offensive line, including a sack deep in Panthers territory where he confused his blocking assignment.
“Mental error on my part. I thought the slide was one way and I went the wrong way, so that's not good,” Kalil said of the play in question. “That's just stupid by me. That's got to get fixed.”
While Kalil owned up to his mistake in one locker room, the mood in the visiting locker room about the same play was drastically different – especially from the man who took advantage of Kalil on the play, defensive end Cameron Jordan.
“We’ve played the Vikings before. He’s just a guy,” Jordan said of Kalil. “I appreciate him messing up his blocking scheme and allowing me to come free for a sack. A hundred percent appreciate the other Kalil brother.”
Kalil’s older brother Ryan is normally Carolina’s starting center, but he has missed the last two games with neck issues.

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