Ryckophants Ain't Gonna Like These FACTS...
Rick Schpielman (oops, thats Spielman, my bad, I'm sorry) assumed control of ALL college and professional scouting in May, 2006. He had, from Day 1, TOTAL control of the BOTH scouting departmemts (Pro and College). FACT
Since Schpielman (darn, I did it again!) has graced the Vikings organization with his almighty presence, the Vikings have won a grand TOTAL of TWO Playoff games ( both at home, btw) IN TWELVE YEARS. Both of those wins, sporadic as they might be, were with 1 or 2 year FA QB's, I might add. A team needs to win 3 or 4 CONSECUTIVE playoff games to win a Super Bowl. Just wanted to put the 2 wins over a decade PLUS (1of which was a one-in-a-million finish) in perspective. FACT
For futher perspective, The Rex Ryan/Mark Sanchez Jets managed to win FOUR playoff ROAD games, and make CONSECUTIVE Confernece Championships in the span of TWO seasons. Again, just wanted to put the Viking's TWO TOTAL playoff wins in 12 seasons in CLEAR perspective. FACT
And the 2010 Green Bay Packers ( with a ridiculous amount of starters on their IR list, btw) won 4 consecutive playoff games, including the Super Bowl. FACT
Between April, 2011 and September, 2016, Schpielman (dagnamit!) has spent THREE 1st round draft picks and a TOTAL of FIVE draft picks (one of those THIS year, btw) on 3 Quarterbacks, ALL of which were force-fed to Vikings fans as THE Franchise QB they've been searching for since 1978. FACT. (D'OH!-nte and his losing record I don't count, unless 2004 is the ONLY year ya wanna focus on
The RESULT of this expensive draft expenditure? : As of March, 2018, NONE of these players are on the VIkings roster, and 1 is not even in the NFL. FACT
In 1988, I'm pretty sure the Vikings had an un-godly number of Pro Bowl Players (and that was when a PB designation actulally MEANT something). I seem to recall it was 11, but it might have been 10. Regardless, the OUTCOME of that season? Despite @ HALF of the Vikings starting roster being "Pro Bowlers", they got their collective All Star asses handed them by a Championship Team. FACT
At the end of the day (or SEASON), it doesn't matter how many starters Dicky drafts, or how young the team is or how many Pro Bowlers they have, or how much room you have under the salary or how much the media licks your azz.....DID YOU WIN PLAYOFF GAMES (as in MORE than one)? That's certaintly a fact for ME, but apparently many Vikings fans are content with a Division "title" and beating Green Bay. Hookay. I'll label this as OBVIOUS
Since 2006 - The Vikings have won a grand total of TWO Playoff games. FACT
Why am I posting these non-debatable FACTS ?
Ask Sir James from SD and/or Moronbells (sp? might be Womanlyballs, whatever).
Peace
In 2010 the Packers don't even make the playoffs if Shannon is Givin the touchdown instead off it being ruled incomplete which would meant vikings win the game packers miss playoffs means no packer superb owl
Not sure if I put it on Spielman or Zimmer (both?), but it is a fact the lone playoff victory they acheived required a miracle.
Simply put, adding a franchise QB in his prime to a stacked 13/3 roster that just made the NFCCG makes lamenting the past 10 years kind of a moot point.
What's the sense in it?
@"purplefaithful" said: Simply put, adding a franchise QB in his prime to a stacked 13/3 roster that just made the NFCCG makes lamenting the past 10 years kind of a moot point.What's the sense in it?
no doubt!! how can you be a negative nancy on the vikings right now? maybe it all turns to shit but right now it is as good of a roster as any on any team in the last decade. who knows how it all turns out but im excited for the season.
https://vikefans.com/discussion/#/discussion/5183/spielman-haters-arent-gonna-like
I really don't understand the point to this thread. Regardless on how bad you want to make Rick Spielman or the Vikings look. True fans will always cheer and root for this team no matter what. All your useless bad-mouthing of the Viking Organization isn't going anywhere or changing anyone's' feelings towards this team. The people on this board will always be loyal fans to the Minnesota Vikings.
All that matters is do you think Spielman has done enough to warrant at least one more season as Vikings GM. I think 99% of Vikings fans would say YES (We went to the NFCCG last year!).
If things go south this year and the year after and the NFCCG was our peak well that stinks. But you can't boot a guy with Rick's record here. You just can't. Look how much leash the Packers gave Ted Thompson? By those standards Spielman is safe for the next 5 years. May as well learn to love it.
I myself am hoping for another good draft and another solid playoff run. I'd also take a super bowl. Skol!
@"pattersaur" said: All that matters is do you think Spielman has done enough to warrant at least one more season as Vikings GM. I think 99% of Vikings fans would say YES (We went to the NFCCG last year!).If things go south this year and the year after and the NFCCG was our peak well that stinks. But you can't boot a guy with Rick's record here. You just can't. Look how much leash the Packers gave Ted Thompson? By those standards Spielman is safe for the next 5 years. May as well learn to love it.
I myself am hoping for another good draft and another solid playoff run. I'd also take a super bowl. Skol!
Booting Rick at this point would be like sitting Keenum for Bradford for the playoffs.
worse than that. Much worse.
You see the OP has no answer, no solution he he would implement. He only wants to vent and convince folks how smart he is.
The problem is it is working in the opposite direction. All reasonable people know that the GM doesnt play the games, coach the players or cause or prevent injuries. He puts the best product on the field he can and it is up to them for how it turns out. They know that even if you put the best team out there it doesnt guarentee a Superbowl.
ALL reasonable people do not need this explained to them. All reasonable people realize that the only measure of a GM is not by who raises the Trophy at the end of the season. This child like thinking.
@"Scoog" said:@"pattersaur" said: All that matters is do you think Spielman has done enough to warrant at least one more season as Vikings GM. I think 99% of Vikings fans would say YES (We went to the NFCCG last year!).If things go south this year and the year after and the NFCCG was our peak well that stinks. But you can't boot a guy with Rick's record here. You just can't. Look how much leash the Packers gave Ted Thompson? By those standards Spielman is safe for the next 5 years. May as well learn to love it.
I myself am hoping for another good draft and another solid playoff run. I'd also take a super bowl. Skol!
Booting Rick at this point would be like sitting Keenum for Bradford for the playoffs.
I dunno if that is a good comparison,
considering how that all ended
:s
@"njvike" said:Why am I posting these non-debatable FACTS ?
Because you have a hard on for RS and no one else on this board gives a shit about your opinion, so you keep yelling about it in the hopes they might care but they still don't. Carry on.
And to top it off, he has stepped up a level from slurring a name to straight up 5th grade level name calling. Well done sir. Next year we will see progression to words like ass and butt mixed in.
@"greediron" said: And to top it off, he has stepped up a level from slurring a name to straight up 5th grade level name calling. Well done sir. Next year we will see progression to words like ass and butt mixed in.
My money is on Dick Spoogeman.
Dude! You need to get back to the home and make sure the head nurse sees to it that you take your meds.
OCD or what!
I see the original post was edited at 1:16 am. That probably says a lot about it.
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