Ryckophants Ain't Gonna Like These FACTS...
Rick Schpielman (oops, thats Spielman, my bad, I'm sorry) assumed control of ALL college and professional scouting in May, 2006. He had, from Day 1, TOTAL control of the BOTH scouting departmemts (Pro and College). FACT
Since Schpielman (darn, I did it again!) has graced the Vikings organization with his almighty presence, the Vikings have won a grand TOTAL of TWO Playoff games ( both at home, btw) IN TWELVE YEARS. Both of those wins, sporadic as they might be, were with 1 or 2 year FA QB's, I might add. A team needs to win 3 or 4 CONSECUTIVE playoff games to win a Super Bowl. Just wanted to put the 2 wins over a decade PLUS (1of which was a one-in-a-million finish) in perspective. FACT
For futher perspective, The Rex Ryan/Mark Sanchez Jets managed to win FOUR playoff ROAD games, and make CONSECUTIVE Confernece Championships in the span of TWO seasons. Again, just wanted to put the Viking's TWO TOTAL playoff wins in 12 seasons in CLEAR perspective. FACT
And the 2010 Green Bay Packers ( with a ridiculous amount of starters on their IR list, btw) won 4 consecutive playoff games, including the Super Bowl. FACT
Between April, 2011 and September, 2016, Schpielman (dagnamit!) has spent THREE 1st round draft picks and a TOTAL of FIVE draft picks (one of those THIS year, btw) on 3 Quarterbacks, ALL of which were force-fed to Vikings fans as THE Franchise QB they've been searching for since 1978. FACT. (D'OH!-nte and his losing record I don't count, unless 2004 is the ONLY year ya wanna focus on
The RESULT of this expensive draft expenditure? : As of March, 2018, NONE of these players are on the VIkings roster, and 1 is not even in the NFL. FACT
In 1988, I'm pretty sure the Vikings had an un-godly number of Pro Bowl Players (and that was when a PB designation actulally MEANT something). I seem to recall it was 11, but it might have been 10. Regardless, the OUTCOME of that season? Despite @ HALF of the Vikings starting roster being "Pro Bowlers", they got their collective All Star asses handed them by a Championship Team. FACT
At the end of the day (or SEASON), it doesn't matter how many starters Dicky drafts, or how young the team is or how many Pro Bowlers they have, or how much room you have under the salary or how much the media licks your azz.....DID YOU WIN PLAYOFF GAMES (as in MORE than one)? That's certaintly a fact for ME, but apparently many Vikings fans are content with a Division "title" and beating Green Bay. Hookay. I'll label this as OBVIOUS
Since 2006 - The Vikings have won a grand total of TWO Playoff games. FACT
Why am I posting these non-debatable FACTS ?
Ask Sir James from SD and/or Moronbells (sp? might be Womanlyballs, whatever).
Peace
@"minny65" said:I didn't write it for him. I thought I'd bring a little humor to everyone else's day. Even if no one else thought it was funny...@"pumpf" said:By giving an idiot an audience? Like he is coherently reading your post and giving them consideration, come on can't we all just move on from a bait thread and one trick poster child?@"minny65" said: Can we let the thread drift back into the pit that is NJ? Aw... this is the most fun I've had in awhile!
Maybe it is fun to kick around the resident syck-o-ryck-ophant every now and then. Granted it is low hanging fruit, but in the offseason, you take what you can get.
The Vikings have 6 playoff wins in the last 20 years....more than the Cowboys, Chiefs, Bills, Browns, Bengals, Lions, and Redskins combined
@"njvike" said: Does he warrant THIS season? Not up to me, and he's obviously here for the season, so its not even worth discussing.
So then why are we discussing it
@"quattrovike" said: The Vikings have 6 playoff wins in the last 20 years....more than the Cowboys, Chiefs, Bills, Browns, Bengals, Lions, and Redskins combinedNo, no, no, no, no....
We HAVE TO hold ourselves to a higher standard than that. Right?
@"purplefaithful" said:@"quattrovike" said: The Vikings have 6 playoff wins in the last 20 years....more than the Cowboys, Chiefs, Bills, Browns, Bengals, Lions, and Redskins combined No, no, no, no, no....We HAVE TO hold ourselves to a higher standard than that. Right?
That might be a goal, but several of those teams have a much more impressive trophy case than our storied franchise has mustered.
@"quattrovike" said: The Vikings have 6 playoff wins in the last 20 years....more than the Cowboys, Chiefs, Bills, Browns, Bengals, Lions, and Redskins combinedAnd, of those teams, 3 have also WON 9 Super Bowls. VIKINGS - ZERO
IMHO, I would say that
1 Super Bowl win equals at least 5 CONSECUTIVE division "championships".
If you're gonna be this inept in the postseason (2 playoff wins in 12 years), you at LEAST have to be consistent "champions" in the regular season.
We all know Schpielman can TALK THE TALK......I'M JUST PATIENTLY WAITING FOR HIM TO FINALLY WALK THE WALK.
Win consecutive playoff games....at least ONCE!
It takes 3 or 4 CONSECUTIVE playoff VICTORIES to win a Super Bowl.
The last Vikings Team to manage at LEAST 2 wins? The 1987 squad....THIRTY YEARS AGO.
Show it on the field, enough of this "at least we're not the WORST of the worst" Horse Shyte.
If your benchmark are teams like the BENGALS and Brown's, then YOU are not interested in CHAMPIONSHIPS....all YOU are interested in is simply NOT being the worst.
@"pattersaur" said:@"njvike" said: Does he warrant THIS season? Not up to me, and he's obviously here for the season, so its not even worth discussing.
So then why are we discussing it
Don't condense my post and THEN comment on YOUR edited version, OK , Slappy?
Putting blame solely on Rick for years he was NOT in total control (FACT) is not a basis of fact. He had a hand in it but others were making final decisions on roster and draft.
Clearly ownership blamed others more than Rick for pre-2012 issues.
Since Rick became GM in 2012 how has he done?
North title 2 of last 3 years
Playoffs 3 of last 5 years
@"purplefaithful" said: Simply put, adding a franchise QB in his prime to a stacked 13/3 roster that just made the NFCCG makes lamenting the past 10 years kind of a moot point.What's the sense in it?
Abso-fucking-lutely
@"njvike" said:@"pattersaur" said:@"njvike" said: Does he warrant THIS season? Not up to me, and he's obviously here for the season, so its not even worth discussing.
So then why are we discussing it
Don't condense my post and THEN comment on YOUR edited version, OK , Slappy?
Here is the only actual fact that matters in this thread. You call people names and you will get a vacation.Enough of the childish behavior. Opinions are opinions, you like yours and others may not. But you are free to share. But keep calling names and you won't be free to share.
NJVike, let's give it a rest on insulting other users. Also NJ can be as critical as he wants regarding the organization. BUt NJ if you use insulting names of people associated with the organization that people here are fans of I think you can expect some unhappy responses. You know that but to be fair I just thought I would state it. There's no reason that we can't look at the success rate of the people involved with this organization and have a good solid discussion. Let's do that.
@"njvike" said:@"quattrovike" said: The Vikings have 6 playoff wins in the last 20 years....more than the Cowboys, Chiefs, Bills, Browns, Bengals, Lions, and Redskins combined And, of those teams, 3 have also WON 9 Super Bowls. VIKINGS - ZEROIMHO, I would say that
1 Super Bowl win equals at least 5 CONSECUTIVE division "championships".If you're gonna be this inept in the postseason (2 playoff wins in 12 years), you at LEAST have to be consistent "champions" in the regular season.
We all know Schpielman can TALK THE TALK......I'M JUST PATIENTLY WAITING FOR HIM TO FINALLY WALK THE WALK.
Win consecutive playoff games....at least ONCE!
It takes 3 or 4 CONSECUTIVE playoff VICTORIES to win a Super Bowl.The last Vikings Team to manage at LEAST 2 wins? The 1987 squad....THIRTY YEARS AGO.
Show it on the field, enough of this "at least we're not the WORST of the worst" Horse Shyte.
If your benchmark are teams like the BENGALS and Brown's, then YOU are not interested in CHAMPIONSHIPS....all YOU are interested in is simply NOT being the worst.
You are conveniently omitting the fact that twice in the last 12 years we have had a top 2 seed therefor bypassing the first round of the playoffs...in my book a bye is as good as a win, you dont have to agree with that but constantly lamenting the fact of how many wins they have instead of how far they have made it is ridiculous. The 87 team also lost in the NFCCG, needing more games to get there doesn't change the narrative.I am not touting us as "not being the worst of the worst." I was putting in perspective the fact that we have more playoff wins in 20 years than 1/4 of the league combined, pointing out how ridiculous it is that you think we are this failed franchise. I too want a superbowl win and will not be happy until that day comes, but you are as shortsighted as they come to continue pressing your agenda when this teams just won 13 games after losing their #1 RB and QB. It really shows how well our GM set us up to handle adversity, not the other way around like you seem to believe.
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