ESPN: 'Vikings cannot let Keenum walk after this season'

Let's see how this season ends. Right now, Case (and Diggs) are the Kings of Minnesota. If we win it all, you need to sign or franchise Case. Just cannot let him go.
What will happen to  Spielman or his reputation if he lets Case walk and whoever he brings in falls short while Case goes to Denver and takes them to a SB? He would be mocked for failing to see what every casual fan could see; what anyone who watched the end of the Saints game could see.  Signing or franchising Case is simply a lot less risky than not.

If Teddy is healthy, I think the team rolls with him.  But is he really back to form?  Why did they activate Sam if he was?

So Spielman caught flak for signing Rudy and Wright to contract extensions before they had put up enough of a body of work to merit those deals in the minds of many here but one year of Case with a red-hot OC that was.uber in demand to be a HC with Elite WRs and good weapons all around equals "Sign him up or else"?

I can't keep up any more ;)

We don't have much say in the matter, except to applaud or bitch about the decision that will be made.

My take would be to sign Case to a reasonable starter contract with protections if he doesn't win the starting job.  Bring back Teddy on a prove it deal and have them fight it out in camp next year.  I think Sam is done, health wise you just can't trust him.

@"Ponifan" said: If Teddy is healthy, I think the team rolls with him.  But is he really back to form?  Why did they activate Sam if he was?

I think people have been reading way too much into that simple decision. Sam's just a better, more experienced QB. He has more arm talent than anyone on the team. If he's healthy, it makes sense to have him #2. He'd be starting Sunday if it weren't for the whole "don't fix what ain't broken"  thing.  

Another thing is that Bradford presents a totally different game plan for defenses. Keenum and Teddy are similar QBs. You probably wouldn't have to change your defense much switching from one to the other. Going from Case to Sam would give the Vikings a big advantage.

As far as which QB they commit to? I honestly don't have the foggiest. Could go either way.  But they know they can't screw this up. I just wish we could put Case's balls on a body with Sam's arm and Teddy's head. 

GMF Analyst on Case. Sorry if this has already been posted.

@"MaroonBells" said:

@"Ponifan" said: If Teddy is healthy, I think the team rolls with him.  But is he really back to form?  Why did they activate Sam if he was?

I think people have been reading way too much into that simple decision. Sam's just a better, more experienced QB. He has more arm talent than anyone on the team. If he's healthy, it makes sense to have him #2. He'd be starting Sunday if it weren't for the whole "don't fix what ain't broken"  thing.  

Another thing is that Bradford presents a totally different game plan for defenses. Keenum and Teddy are similar QBs. You probably wouldn't have to change your defense much switching from one to the other. Going from Case to Sam would give the Vikings a big advantage.

As far as which QB they commit to? I honestly don't have the foggiest. Could go either way.  But they know they can't screw this up. I just wish we could put Case's balls on a body with Sam's arm and Teddy's head. 

@"UHcougar33" said: GMF Analyst on Case. Sorry if this has already been posted.

https://youtu.be/WVdmJ-Uo_uA

You just found the one show I can't watch. I love the coverage we're getting and the stat about Keenum vs. Brady is actually interesting but these four are such cornballs. It's football for Millenials. Have it hosted by some cute chick, a former player, and then two goofy New York hipster guys.

No one has earned a starting job for the 2018 season. That won't happen until August.  Keenum has earned to right to start as far as he takes this team in the playoffs this postseason.

Lol. I agree. The stats are the only reason I posted it. I followed a link from a Cougar board and I just happened to see this one and thought lets see what they have to say and it was a blah blah blah then the comparison came up and I went "I don't think I've seen this one before". I thought Case cooled down a little at the end because of the conservative play calling. I've seen some of the talking heads still don't get it about Case. They talk about him playing for average OC and you see what you get then bring up Geoff and how well he also was doing after being out from Fisher and I'm thinking " well I think a Tom Brady wouldn't have won if he was with Fisher". My point is they were saying Case is average then use Fisher as a example. It was like well maybe he's learned over the years and has gotten good but maybe FISHER'S offensive system sucks. It was like this Keenum under center it's a run, Keenum in shotgun it was a pass. Please . It was that basic. No imagination. All I know after y'all win the SB it will be interesting to see what these talking heads say. There are some players you can't go by the measurable's and Case is one of them. He has his swagger back that he has been missing due to all the lousy coaches and teams and I don't think he will lose it no matter who the OC is. They talk about his wildness yet he threw, what, 6 interceptions during the season to 22 TD's. That's a 3 to 1 ratio.

@"KingBash" said:

@"UHcougar33" said: GMF Analyst on Case. Sorry if this has already been posted.

https://youtu.be/WVdmJ-Uo_uA

You just found the one show I can't watch. I love the coverage we're getting and the stat about Keenum vs. Brady is actually interesting but these four are such cornballs. It's football for Millenials. Have it hosted by some cute chick, a former player, and then two goofy New York hipster guys.

@"mgobluevikes" said:

@"KingBash" said:

@"UHcougar33" said: GMF Analyst on Case. Sorry if this has already been posted.

https://youtu.be/WVdmJ-Uo_uA

You just found the one show I can't watch. I love the coverage we're getting and the stat about Keenum vs. Brady is actually interesting but these four are such cornballs. It's football for Millenials. Have it hosted by some cute chick, a former player, and then two goofy New York hipster guys.

...and yet the cute chick actually made actual sense, unlike 9 out of 10 talking head "experts", ex-players, that talk, simply to generate clicks on some other platform that they not so secretly pimp via yet some other social media platform. Now THAT is un watchable.

@"KingBash" said:

@"mgobluevikes" said:

@"KingBash" said:

@"UHcougar33" said: GMF Analyst on Case. Sorry if this has already been posted.

https://youtu.be/WVdmJ-Uo_uA

You just found the one show I can't watch. I love the coverage we're getting and the stat about Keenum vs. Brady is actually interesting but these four are such cornballs. It's football for Millenials. Have it hosted by some cute chick, a former player, and then two goofy New York hipster guys.

...and yet the cute chick actually made actual sense, unlike 9 out of 10 talking head "experts", ex-players, that talk, simply to generate clicks on some other platform that they not so secretly pimp via yet some other social media platform. Now THAT is un watchable.

Oh yeah for sure, it wasn't personal against her. I just hate their blue-print for getting eyeballs on screens. 

Going further, I'm obsessed with Kay Adams. I hate that I don't make millions and live near her. I'd love to disappoint her someday.

@"FSUVike" said: So Spielman caught flak for signing Rudy and Wright to contract extensions before they had put up enough of a body of work to merit those deals in the minds of many here but one year of Case with a red-hot OC that was.uber in demand to be a HC with Elite WRs and good weapons all around equals "Sign him up or else"?

I can't keep up any more ;)

Sigh.

Well neither Bradford nor Bridgewater have ever had a season like Case just had, and both have MAJOR question marks regarding their health, so we should probably sign one of them instead?

Trust me, I’m the one who can’t keep up.  I don’t honestly know what Keenum has to do anymore in order to win some of you guys over.  The goalposts keep getting moved for the guy.

A lot is going to depend on how our playoff goes, of course.  But I think Case will be back with starter money.   I think to try to bring Teddy back too, much as respect him (his talent and how he has handled himself) is just asking for a QB controversy.  I think making it an open competition would divide the locker room.  Teddy is young, he was the heir apparent and would consider being a back up as an insult.  And Case would rightfully think he has earned the job.  its a recipe for disaster.  I dont think the same would happen with Case and Sam.  In that scenerio who is number one is pretty clear.  Its Case’s show unless he stumbles badly or is injured.  

Like I've said several times, only on this board are there the Keenum naysayers: the rest of Viking fandom has a major crush otherwise. The debating of him while the Vikings ride into the NFCC game in spectacular fashion of which his play was a major part is interesting by some to say the least. 

@"StickyBun" said: Like I've said several times, only on this board are there the Keenum naysayers: the rest of Viking fandom has a major crush otherwise. The debating of him while the Vikings ride into the NFCC game in spectacular fashion of which his play was a major part is interesting by some to say the least. 

If you caricature the "naysayers" as Teddy fanboys who hate Case Keenum then you’re right. That opinion only exists on this board, because it only exists in your head. 

If you characterize our opinion as unconvinced Keenum is the QB we should commit to long term, then that is not just an opinion heard on this board. It’s everywhere. 

@"StickyBun" said: Like I've said several times, only on this board are there the Keenum naysayers: the rest of Viking fandom has a major crush otherwise. The debating of him while the Vikings ride into the NFCC game in spectacular fashion of which his play was a major part is interesting by some to say the least. 

That is the furthest thing from the truth. I don't think the majority here are firmly against resigning Case. But anyone rationale isn't going to suggest bending over and writing the guy a blank check for his performance this season. If the league thought Case was a star in the wings he would have gotten more than a single year contract for $2M (the Vikings probably learned from this). Players can develop rapidly, but there is still risk in resigning Case without Shurmur. The point is that you need to balance that risk and price point with the risks of the other QB's on your roster. Sam is the most talented but can't stay healthy, Teddy is a complete unknown. But that is where the door also opens for external options and developmental draft picks as well. 

@"Geoff Nichols" said:

@"StickyBun" said: Like I've said several times, only on this board are there the Keenum naysayers: the rest of Viking fandom has a major crush otherwise. The debating of him while the Vikings ride into the NFCC game in spectacular fashion of which his play was a major part is interesting by some to say the least. 

That is the furthest thing from the truth. I don't think the majority here are firmly against resigning Case. But anyone rationale isn't going to suggest bending over and writing the guy a blank check for his performance this season. If the league thought Case was a star in the wings he would have gotten more than a single year contract for $2M (the Vikings probably learned from this). Players can develop rapidly, but there is still risk in resigning Case without Shurmur. The point is that you need to balance that risk and price point with the risks of the other QB's on your roster. Sam is the most talented but can't stay healthy, Teddy is a complete unknown. But that is where the door also opens for external options and developmental draft picks as well. 

That height of arrogance statement is intended to provoke people. It worked. Case has earned a contract, the only question is the amount. Kay Adams is right. She knows her football. I get the point about the formula for that show but it's a target market. Some people credit the OL and the offensive weapons. And of course they should get credit but so should Keenum. He is the one under center. He extends plays. And even with a bonehead play, he comes back and redeems himself. He keeps working to do better.

Teddy has handled this entire situation with such class. He has shown tremendous strength of character. Watching him on the sidelines was interesting. It has to be such a strange place to be. He was happy with the play and his team but of course he wants a shot. So does Sam. And he has handled the situation well also. He has worked hard as well. We have 3 high character guys that are great teammates. It's a good problem to have. Priority number one is gauging the contract for Case and to go from there.