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Case Keenum has “a horseshoe right now” but how long will he have starting job?

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MINNEAPOLIS – The Vikings faced second-and-5 from the Los Angeles 30-yard line late in the first quarter Sunday when Case Keenum dropped back and came under heavy pressure.The quarterback managed to evade linebacker Robert Quinn and ducked as linebacker Connor Barwin somehow slipped off him. And then, as he was about to take a hit from defensive tackle Michael Brockers, Keenum lofted the ball into the air.

It came down in Adam Thielen’s hands, a split second before cornerback Trumaine Johnson arrived, for a 12-yard gain to the Rams 18. Five plays later, Latavius Murray scored on an 8-yard run to tie the score at 7 in what became a 24-7 victory for the Vikings.
So Vikings coach Mike Zimmer had to be thrilled with his quarterback’s Houdini-like act to avoid the sack, right?
“Yeah, um, it was a good ending,” Zimmer said afterward showing little enthusiasm for the play.
Zimmer, who has called Keenum excitable in recent weeks, later elaborated on seeing his QB launch a pass that just as easily could have been intercepted. “I’m thinking a lot of things at that point,” he said. “But, he’s got a horseshoe right now.”
http://www.1500espn.com/vikings-2/2017/11/case-keenum-horseshoe-right-now-long-will-starting-job/

Hurry-up Vikings, we ain't getting any younger! 

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#1 · Nov 19, 7:23 PM
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Jim that's sort of out of line. And I have to call balls and strikes fairly. Calling someone a name like that is out of line bro. 

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Just let it go Jimmy.  Not worth trying to have an honest discussion if that isn't the objective of both parties.

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#103 · Nov 21, 10:26 AM
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@"Mike Olson" said: Jim that's sort of out of line. And I have to call balls and strikes fairly. Calling someone a name like that is out of line bro. 
oh hey,  i wasnt calling him that... i was asking him what his intent was for his disingenuous responses through out this entire thread.  if he was willing to admit that he is just thick headed on the matter I would have taken the time to explain the error in his line of thinking,  if he chose the later I would have bid him a good day.  it was his choice.

but hey,  if thats how you want to take it then I will just be done with him now as you want.   

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@"JimmyinSD" said:
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But in your eyes Louisville is a top notch school cause Teddy played there??
are you really that obtuse or are you just trying to be an argumentative asshole?



All your spouting is Blah Blah Blah...Calling me Argumentative Asshole...you mad Jimmy

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@"FSUVike" said:
@"Norse" said:
But in your eyes Louisville is a top notch school cause Teddy played there??
ACC is the current holder of the Title Belt. Louisville has the current holder of the Heisman Trophy...what point were you failing to make? 
Reread what I said. :-)
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#106 · Nov 21, 10:40 AM
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i looked last night at 2 key career stats.  Career passer rating 89 to 82 for teddy and sacks against.   Teddy who has good pocket skills was sacked 39 and 44 times and was running for his life when not being brutalized.  We all love case and have nothing but good vibes, but there is a reason we all (including Z) want Teddy back in, and to suggest we are unreasonable makes no sense

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@"Bullazin" said: i looked last night at 2 key career stats.  Career passer rating 89 to 82 for teddy and sacks against.   Teddy who has good pocket skills was sacked 39 and 44 times and was running for his life when not being brutalized.  We all love case and have nothing but good vibes, but there is a reason we all (including Z) want Teddy back in, and to suggest we are unreasonable makes no sense
Good pocket skills and sacked 39 times don't belong in the same sentence.  :) Teddy took a lot of sacks because he stood in the pocket pump faking trying to decide if he was going to take a chance and throw long.
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@"Ilovebigtd's" said: you guys do realize that our offense was no way near this good 3 years ago because of Ted. 

I think teddy could be outperforming case right now if he were playing right now.


Do you have a link for this fact?

I say If Case was the QB against Hawks in playoff game, MN scores at least 1 TD.

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@"Ilovebigtd's" said: you guys do realize that our offense was no way near this good 3 years ago. 

teddy would be outperforming case right now if he were playing right now.


IF TEDDY DIDN"T HAVE A NEAR CAREER ENDING INJURY.  IT'S UNKNOWN WHAT HE WOULD/COULD DO  IF YOU COULD PLUG TEDDY FROM 2 YEARS AGO IN YEAH I CAN SEE THE POINT, BUT NOW IS DIFFERENT.

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This conversation has escalated quickly.  Wowza.  I think a few need to take a step back...  Shit is getting personal.

How about we just be thankful that Keenum is playing well enough for the Vikings to win and leave it at that.  We're 8-2 and as long as Keenum keeps the team winning, he will remain the starter.  End of discussion.

BOOM

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@"Ilovebigtd's" said: just saying case keenum has been trash his whole career. and now all of a sudden he can be our franchise guy? get real, its just been a lucky year for him. this shit isnt gonna last and we’ll be one and done in the playoffs if keenum is our qb
saying Case has been trash is really exposing your ignorance on the subject which calls into question your comments supporting Teddy.
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#112 · Nov 21, 1:42 PM
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one man's trash is another mans treasure.  He is an NFL QB that has played well at times, so trash doesn't really fit.  But inflammatory comments are a good bit.

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@"Ilovebigtd's" said: lmao. wow. case has been a terrible qb his whole career
Perhaps it's time for you to go away again for a while.  It's pretty apparent that this isn't the place for you.
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@"PapaScott" said: https://twitter.com/twitter/statuses/933109650911719424


i like it all except the last sentence or two.

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@"Ilovebigtd's" said: jimmy bro take a chill pill buddy.

can you show me or elaborate on why you think im wrong?
mweonf


I'm not getting into this again,  but your bull in a China shop style doesn't fit well here.  

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@"SFVikingFan" said:

i like it all except the last sentence or two.


You may not like it and may not agree with it...  but I think it is the truth.  Is it fair?  Probably not.  But the reality is that Teddy Bridgewater is healthy, he's looking very good in practice, and the Vikings viewed Teddy Bridgewater as their franchise QB prior to his injury.  It is pretty obvious that Zimmer and the coaches still view him that way.
Case has slowly been winning me over the past couple weeks.  If he helps the team beat Detroit tomorrow, it is almost a lock that he gets the start against Atlanta.  He basically controls his own destiny right now.  If he keeps the team winning games, it will make it impossible for the coaches to make a change.  If he doesn't play well and the team loses...  we'll see what happens.
At this point, I'm just living in the now.  We're 8-2, have a big division game tomorrow, and Case is starting.  Let's put the Lions in their place and get a BIG FAT W.
BOOM

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@"JimmyinSD" said:
@"Ilovebigtd's" said: jimmy bro take a chill pill buddy.

can you show me or elaborate on why you think im wrong?
mweonf


I'm not getting into this again,  but your bull in a China shop style doesn't fit well here.  


Bull?  that's being nice, and not painting an accurate picture maybe it's more like this?

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@"Wetlander" said:
@"SFVikingFan" said:

i like it all except the last sentence or two.


You may not like it and may not agree with it...  but I think it is the truth.  Is it fair?  Probably not.  But the reality is that Teddy Bridgewater is healthy, he's looking very good in practice, and the Vikings viewed Teddy Bridgewater as their franchise QB prior to his injury.  It is pretty obvious that Zimmer and the coaches still view him that way.
Case has slowly been winning me over the past couple weeks.  If he helps the team beat Detroit tomorrow, it is almost a lock that he gets the start against Atlanta.  He basically controls his own destiny right now.  If he keeps the team winning games, it will make it impossible for the coaches to make a change.  If he doesn't play well and the team loses...  we'll see what happens.
At this point, I'm just living in the now.  We're 8-2, have a big division game tomorrow, and Case is starting.  Let's put the Lions in their place and get a BIG FAT W.
BOOM



I didn't go back and listen.

Was it something like? Case needs to keep winning, The Vikings need to keep winning.

That is wrong. No other QB would be held to that short of a leash. The team is 8-2
If Ted was the starter from WK 1. How many people would have been beating their chests.
If a crystal ball guaranteed, The team would be 8-2 after WK 11 and 1st in the North. With Ted as the QB.

The carrot keeps moving. 2 weeks ago it was, the next 5 games are brutal.
(I think) The Team has a good shot at being 10-3 after that 5 game stretch.

Leaving the Bengals,Packers, Bears to end the regular season. How many of those 3 are wins?? 

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@"holmanjp" said:
@"Wetlander" said:
@"SFVikingFan" said:

i like it all except the last sentence or two.


You may not like it and may not agree with it...  but I think it is the truth.  Is it fair?  Probably not.  But the reality is that Teddy Bridgewater is healthy, he's looking very good in practice, and the Vikings viewed Teddy Bridgewater as their franchise QB prior to his injury.  It is pretty obvious that Zimmer and the coaches still view him that way.
Case has slowly been winning me over the past couple weeks.  If he helps the team beat Detroit tomorrow, it is almost a lock that he gets the start against Atlanta.  He basically controls his own destiny right now.  If he keeps the team winning games, it will make it impossible for the coaches to make a change.  If he doesn't play well and the team loses...  we'll see what happens.
At this point, I'm just living in the now.  We're 8-2, have a big division game tomorrow, and Case is starting.  Let's put the Lions in their place and get a BIG FAT W.
BOOM



I didn't go back and listen.

Was it something like? Case needs to keep winning, The Vikings need to keep winning.

That is wrong. No other QB would be held to that short of a leash. The team is 8-2
If Ted was the starter from WK 1. How many people would have been beating their chests.
If a crystal ball guaranteed, The team would be 8-2 after WK 11 and 1st in the North. With Ted as the QB.

The carrot keeps moving. 2 weeks ago it was, the next 5 games are brutal.
(I think) The Team has a good shot at being 10-3 after that 5 game stretch.

Leaving the Bengals,Packers, Bears to end the regular season. How many of those 3 are wins?? 



That's a good way of putting it.  I feel that the carrot keeps moving as well.  A few weeks ago I heard "well Case is playing well now, but we need a QB who can score points and carry the team when the defense has an off day".  So he goes out and put up 38 on the road on a day the defense didn't show up.  Then I heard, "well Case hasn't really played any tough defenses yet, he's about to be exposed."  Then all he does is go out and play extremely well under pressure against one of the best teams and defensive lines in the league.

Now it's, "well as soon as he loses or doesn't play great for a week (or even a quarter or two according to some), he should be yanked for Teddy".  That's COMPLETELY asinine IMO.

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