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pattersaur wrote:
I like Harmon but I hate this tweet. Why are the Vikings under "way too much pressure this season" to win? From who? Cuz it's not the fans and the owners have been here for 20 years and never won a thing. Did the Wilfs wake up one day and decide this year is Super Bowl or bust? Kyler Murray being our QB is fine but the notion that the Minnesota Vikings are under some massive pressure to win now and JJ was simply not an option because of it seems ludicrous to me, ESPECIALLY looking at other moves made this offseason that were hardly "all-in" moves.

It's all about windows and core players at certain ages and contracts. Players like Jefferson, Addison, Darrisaw, O'Neill, Turner, Cashman, Redmond, Gink, Murphy, etc. I don't know if you've looked around the NFL much, but in context with the rest of the league, that's a damn good core. As many said last year, we're average QB play away from competing for a title. The same holds true this year. This is very definitely a win-now team.

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Cricket wrote:

https://x.com/vikingzfanpage/status/2087243395005620267?s=20

Interesting. Very interesting.

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This is all I really wanted to hear. I don't want to trade JJ.

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Again, what has the whisperer done to help McCarthy and his development? Was it the widely reported shunning of McCarthy after his knee injury, was it not playing him a single snap in the preseason then throwing him out week 1 at Chicago after almost zero real football in almost two years, was it the adjusting of the offense to simplifly things for your young quarterback and incorporate more balance and doing more things he's used to and comfortable doing? Nope! Make no mistake about it, the whisperer did our young quarterback no favors and that continued by bringing in Murray as we are once again now on the "rent-a-vet" cycle at quarterback. And it's not just McCarthy. Any young quarterback we've either drafted or brought in has failed under OConnell, who is clearly not built for the development of young quarterbacks and the common sense steps in putting them in the best positions to be successfully. He's going to run the chuck and duck, and screw everything else. I hope Murray works out for him, because if not...his ass should be next on the chopping block

Don't understand the JJM nut hugging. Dude has a 36.5 QBR in 10 games. The 2nd worst since 2000.

And please remember this play when JJM was supposedly "hurt".... Does a guy with a bum knee move like this?

https://www.google.com/search?q=jj+macarthy+jumping+over+sideline+player&rlz=1C1UEAD_enUS1186US1186&oq=jj+macarthy+jumping+over+sideline+player&gs_lcrp=EgZjaHJvbWUyBggAEEUYOdIBCDYxNDNqMGo3qAIIsAIB8QV9_XvcaCGXHA&sourceid=chrome&source=chrome.ob&ie=UTF-8#fpstate=ive&vld=cid:36e3ef18,vid:W4zlUKpLQW4,st:0

He got benched and they used the injury as an excuse. He played college behind a massive run 1st team and only faced 1 on 1's on his WR's.

I just don't think he has it. He hasn't shown touch. Hasn't shown an ability to process things fast.

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Canthony wrote:

If I were JJ, I would be pissed the fuck off that KOC blocked me from going to LA with McVay.

Whoa, where did that come from?

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Whoa, where did that come from?

No, there was just a lot of smoke of it is all. Then they drafted Simpson. Like any opinion you hear, people can pick it apart any way they want.

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Throwing in starters on the Met Life turf. Well, that’s a choice now isn’t it. Angry Clint Eastwood GIF

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EAGAN, Minn. -- The Minnesota Vikings have named Kyler Murray their starting quarterback, coach Kevin O'Connell confirmed Tuesday. It was the expected conclusion to team's quarterback competition despite a rocky series of practices leading to the decision.

Murray has been the heavy favorite to win the job from the moment he signed a one-year, $1.3 million contract March 12 following his release by the Arizona Cardinals, who will pay him $35.5 million. The decision pushes J.J. McCarthy, the No. 10 pick of the 2024 draft, to the No. 2 quarterback role after 10 career starts and raises questions about his future. Quarterbacks Carson Wentz and Max Brosmer also remain on the roster.

O'Connell said that although it was an open competition between Murray and McCarthy, he had always planned to make a decision in this time frame to give the team clarity before the preseason began. He said Murray had "shown enough" of his command of the offense to merit the nod.

"In my opinion," O'Connell said, "he's got the skill set and the abilities not only just from the standpoint of accuracy and his ability to affect the game with his athleticism, but he's also proven to be smart, very hardworking, and be able to take in a lot of information and churn that out. Now we really want to give him the opportunity to really start building a comfort level not only with the system but with the guys."

Both Murray and McCarthy will play in Saturday's preseason game at the New York Giants. O'Connell said that he "absolutely" believes McCarthy still has a future with the organization even though Murray has replaced him.

"As he knows," O'Connell said, "he's holding the pen on his story and we're going to support him and try to just help him continue to improve as a young player in the most difficult position in sports."

The timing of the decision will give Murray a month of practice full time with the Vikings' starting offense, after splitting reps with McCarthy during the spring and the first two weeks of training camp, before the regular season begins Sept. 13 against the Green Bay Packers. Murray has struggled in recent days and threw two interceptions in a full-pads stadium practice Sunday night, but McCarthy was not able to capitalize.

Murray, 29, spent seven seasons with the Cardinals after they selected him first overall in the 2019 draft. He won the NFL's Rookie of the Year award in his first season and was named to a pair of NFC Pro Bowl teams, but injuries derailed two of his past three seasons and the organization decided to make a clean break this offseason after hiring new coach Mike LaFleur.

The Vikings, who had fired general manager Kwesi Adofo-Mensah in part because of the team's failure to settle the quarterback position, immediately expressed interest. After McCarthy struggled with injuries, accuracy and decision-making issues during his first season as the starter, O'Connell decided to seek out what he called "competition" for the starting job. Murray's résumé far outmatched McCarthy's, and the job seemed likely to be his as long as he performed to his career baseline and remained healthy.

Murray did both, demonstrating an understanding of the Vikings' downfield passing offense as well as a comfort level in taking more snaps from under center -- rather than in the shotgun or pistol formations -- than he did with the Cardinals. He now has a chance to reset his career with a coaching staff and scheme that has coaxed career-changing seasons from Kirk Cousins (2022-23) and Sam Darnold (2024).

Cousins parlayed his performance into a four-year, $180 million contract with the Atlanta Falcons. Darnold, meanwhile, signed a three-year deal with the Seattle Seahawks in 2025 worth $100.5 million and won the Super Bowl last season.

With a strong season, Murray could be in a similar position next spring. The Vikings agreed to a contract clause that prohibits them from using the franchise tag to keep him in 2027, giving him a clear path to the free agent market if he wants it.

McCarthy, meanwhile, showed incremental progress this summer but could not close the sizable gap that already existed with Murray. At 23, he is younger than most of the quarterbacks in the NFL's 2026 draft class. But after losing his entire rookie season to a torn meniscus in his right knee, and then producing a season underwhelming enough that O'Connell sought out Murray, there is no longer an obvious path for him to recapture the job unless Murray is injured.

This spring, McCarthy compared the Vikings' quarterback room to a high school classroom, with him sitting on one side and Murray on the other. Asked if he ever thought about seeking a trade when Murray arrived, McCarthy said he wanted to remain in Minnesota.

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JustInTime wrote:

Interesting. Very interesting.

I thought the same. Did they tell the team before it leaked? Or is a staffer the leaker?

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SurfnRide wrote:

Don't understand the JJM nut hugging. Dude has a 36.5 QBR in 10 games. The 2nd worst since 2000.
And please remember this play when JJM was supposedly "hurt".... Does a guy with a bum knee move like this?

https://www.google.com/search?q=jj+macarthy+jumping+over+sideline+player&rlz=1C1UEAD_enUS1186US1186&oq=jj+macarthy+jumping+over+sideline+player&gs_lcrp=EgZjaHJvbWUyBggAEEUYOdIBCDYxNDNqMGo3qAIIsAIB8QV9_XvcaCGXHA&sourceid=chrome&source=chrome.ob&ie=UTF-8#fpstate=ive&vld=cid:36e3ef18,vid:W4zlUKpLQW4,st:0

He got benched and they used the injury as an excuse. He played college behind a massive run 1st team and only faced 1 on 1's on his WR's.

I just don't think he has it. He hasn't shown touch. Hasn't shown an ability to process things fast.

And yet, he was reportedly still better than Murray in at least half the practices playing mostly with the second team.

I don't get the OConnell nut hugging. You are talking about a guy in McCarthy who hadn't played football in almost two years, zero in game reps to build cohesion, zero adjusting of the offense by the whisperer, an offensive line decimated by injury, and you expected, what...Peyton Manning? Every quarterback who took a snap in Minnesota last year was abysmal because of all these same factors. Let's not single out McCarthy. Everyone struggled in the chuck and duck..

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