I like what we're doing

The Achilles Heel to this entire "plan" is the rookie QB. JJM seems to be rising while Maye seems to be falling.
KAM has put himself at the mercy of the draft. If this was truly the plan all along then why trade for Dobbs last year? Once Kirk went down, along with JJ, if they were dead set on taking a QB in the 2024 Draft then making moves to win games was pretty short-sighted.
The fact they did trade for Dobbs and did win a few more games tells me this was not the plan all along and we're officially making moves on the fly. Which is fine but it's very risky.
Half this board is saying move way up, the other half is saying take whoever at 11. What if no QB we want is there at 11? Then what

If Minnesota can get a guy they really want in this Draft, yes.....its a plan where things are falling into place. 

@"StickyBun" said: If Minnesota can get a guy they really want in this Draft, yes.....its a plan where things are falling into place. 

Agreed. Big if.

For a bunch of reasons, this is the first season where KAM/KOC can put their mark on the players out there. 

I hope they can land the QB that'll work. Both of their jobs depend on it. 

I like most of their signings this early in the new calendar year. 

This is a deep draft of QB prospects.  Its likely at this point that Penix and Nix will both be available at 11. They both have NFL caliber  talents

KAM and KOC may ultimately fail to deliver a contender, who knows? But i can guarantee there is no panic in that room. 

@"pattersaur" said:

The Achilles Heel to this entire "plan" is the rookie QB. JJM seems to be rising while Maye seems to be falling. KAM has put himself at the mercy of the draft. If this was truly the plan all along then why trade for Dobbs last year? Once Kirk went down, along with JJ, if they were dead set on taking a QB in the 2024 Draft then making moves to win games was pretty short-sighted. The fact they did trade for Dobbs and did win a few more games tells me this was not the plan all along and we're officially making moves on the fly. Which is fine but it's very risky. Half this board is saying move way up, the other half is saying take whoever at 11. What if no QB we want is there at 11? Then what

That's always the potential Achilles heel, right? I think you have a shot with three legit prospects after the top 3, and that we're not far away from being able to "guarantee" that we can get one of them with a relatively cheap trade up.  I'm not sure of the trade chart, but you can trade with either ATL or LAC to move up without mortgaging too much future.  Then it becomes the age-old dilemma of which one to pick, because it's likely 2 out of the 3 will bust out.  lol  But, I like the odds and cost at getting a QB that will play and be successful in the league for years sitting where we're at.  I love McCarthy and giving him a couple of years to develop, but if Maye drops, grab him in a heartbeat.  I think that concerns about him are more smoke than anything else.

You have to have backup plans. They had to free up money and move on. We'll see what happens. I'm just glad it's over and done with 

@"Vikergirl" said: You have to have backup plans. 

Yep.

Definition: Contingency

You have to empty a cupboard completely out before you can start refilling it with new and fresh stuff...IMO

I just hope that we do not give up the farm in order to move up to grab a qb.  If one falls to us at 11, great, if not, maybe look at someone later on, but everyone knows we are desperate to land one and the price tag to move up will probably be more for us than any other team, because the league perception, thanks to decision-making up to now, is that we are currently squarely bent over the barrel.

@"Psyched Vike" said: I just hope that we do not give up the farm in order to move up to grab a qb.  If one falls to us at 11, great, if not, maybe look at someone later on, but everyone knows we are desperate to land one and the price tag to move up will probably be more for us than any other team, because the league perception, thanks to decision-making up to now, is that we are currently squarely bent over the barrel.

And how many other teams are in need of a qb? The Vikings aren't the only ones. Also it's not like was going to be a secret. It's a gamble to stay at 11 at this point. Sure it could be scary to move up but I would rather go all in than half ass it. We'll see how it plays out 

Agreed - we'll just have to see how it plays out.  None of us are making the decisions, we are just hanging out to bitch or cheer about them after the fact!    :p

@"ArizonaViking" said: You have to empty a cupboard completely out before you can start refilling it with new and fresh stuff...IMO

....unless you are a hoarder.

@"Vikergirl" said:

@"Psyched Vike" said: I just hope that we do not give up the farm in order to move up to grab a qb.  If one falls to us at 11, great, if not, maybe look at someone later on, but everyone knows we are desperate to land one and the price tag to move up will probably be more for us than any other team, because the league perception, thanks to decision-making up to now, is that we are currently squarely bent over the barrel.

And how many other teams are in need of a qb? The Vikings aren't the only ones. Also it's not like was going to be a secret. It's a gamble to stay at 11 at this point. Sure it could be scary to move up but I would rather go all in than half ass it. We'll see how it plays out 

@"StickyBun" said:

@"Vikergirl" said: You have to have backup plans. 

Yep.

Definition: Contingency

US   /kənˈtɪn.dʒən.si/ UK   /kənˈtɪn.dʒən.si/

Something that might possibly happen in the future, usually causing problems or making further arrangements necessary: 

"You need to be able to deal with all possible contingencies.""contingency plan Have you made any contingency plans?"

The man without a plan.  This image would've been better at the bottom of Kwesi's statement.

@"HappyViking" said:

The man without a plan.  This image would've been better at the bottom of Kwesi's statement.

The thing is, this whole plan works if he’s able to land the QB. Clear out all the dead cap, get a cheap QB, load the roster around him. It’s a good plan but it hinges so heavily on the QB. Which we don’t have and may never.

It’s like KAM wrote the best movie script ever but without getting a star actor attached, it ain’t getting made. Ideally you’d have the star in hand before moving forward with everything else but for whatever reason the Vikes didn’t do that.

So now the table is set. The penthouse is ready. And we’re all sitting around waiting to see if the star QB (who didn’t RSVP and who we haven’t seen in 20 years) is gonna show up. 

I said in another thread- it’s a LOT of risk to take on at the most important position in sports. It could work or it could sink us for years. That’s reality. Let’s all hope it works and we land that elusive franchise QB we’ve all coveted for so long. I have hope. But it’s scary. 

I remember when KAM was hired he said in an interview he was trying to build an analytics model that could identify a great future NFL QB.  More recently he said the team has been studying the 2024 QB class for a couple of years now.  So they've been planning this all along and the relatively lowball offer to Kirk really was a way of saying, "Yeah we'd do another year with you but you're gonna be a bridge because we're drafting a kid either way."

Kirk would then be in the awkward position of "mentoring", something I believe he's hinted doesn't interest him, as well as being a bad game away from dealing with a fan base clamoring to see the rookie take over.  More money to be the undisputed man in Atlanta and make the wife happy was an obvious choice.

So now it's time for Kwesi and his model, our very middling scouting department, front office waste-case Ryan Grigson, and former NFL quarterback KOC to put their heads together and draft the future superstar who will at long last lead the Vikings to Valhalla!

Or somethin' like that. :p

If it fails you get another shot at it down the line.  Hell, the Lions prove that even a blind squirrel can find an acorn, so we'll keep our fingers crossed.  What was happening wasn't working.

Kwesi is slowly trying to clean up cap. one more year, “we was in cap hell”
Were going to have to trust the offensive people to try and find us a QB in the draft.
You can’t win or loose without trying. 
Flores is wurking to get the defense in order.
I would say we are moving in the right direction.
 Unfortunately Cousins had 6 years to try to get us to a super bowl. That didn’t exactly work out as planned, but I feel we are moving forward, I’m sure Cousins is happy with all his money.