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Cousins signs with Falcons

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Just announced on NFL Radio. 4 year deal

#1 · Mar 11, 12:35 PM
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@"Vikergirl" said: At some point, you have to move on. Would you rather have Cousins for 4 years/180 million?
$45mm was my #

How the rest of it was structured or guaranteed? I dont get paid enough to figure that out. 

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@"CFIAvike" said:
@"JimmyinSD" said: silver lining.... the Vikings didnt get stupid and held hostage again.  Yes they lose the starting QB,  but they arent stuck in a bad contract for the next 4 years,  its going to  sting  a bit,  but they didnt overspend when backed into a corner,  which is typically their response to losing an aging impact type player that will likely decline over the course of the deal.  onto the next chapter.
“it’s gonna sting a bit”…understatement of the century
how old are you?  its not like we just lost out on a guy that has delivered perennial trips to the championship game or a young stud in his prime,  we are talking about a guy in the twilight of his career,  demanding money and terms that will likely make him a cap hazard before the end of his deal.  Yes we are likely to take a step back in play from the position,  but that could have happened regardless ( look at last year )  We get it,  you are upset and angry,  but just dont do something foolish,  the sun will come up tomorrow and the Vikings will likely still win a game or two next year,  and in the end we will likely end up with a better overall roster that maybe will turn into a perennial contender.
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@"CFIAvike" said:
@"JimmyinSD" said: silver lining.... the Vikings didnt get stupid and held hostage again.  Yes they lose the starting QB,  but they arent stuck in a bad contract for the next 4 years,  its going to  sting  a bit,  but they didnt overspend when backed into a corner,  which is typically their response to losing an aging impact type player that will likely decline over the course of the deal.  onto the next chapter.
“it’s gonna sting a bit”…understatement of the century
Probably the millennium.  
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@"CFIAvike" said:
@"JimmyinSD" said: silver lining.... the Vikings didnt get stupid and held hostage again.  Yes they lose the starting QB,  but they arent stuck in a bad contract for the next 4 years,  its going to  sting  a bit,  but they didnt overspend when backed into a corner,  which is typically their response to losing an aging impact type player that will likely decline over the course of the deal.  onto the next chapter.
“it’s gonna sting a bit”…understatement of the century
I am going to miss all those Division titles, playoff wins, and Super Bowl appearances. 
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I'm glad the drama is over.  We'll need to draft a QB.  I honestly think we should stand pat at 11 and draft whats left.  The odds of the guys drafted before 11 are basically the same as the odds of whatever is left.  I really don't want to give up 1sts for 2 years with as shitty of an offense as we're likely to have.

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@"kmillard" said:
@"CFIAvike" said:
@"JimmyinSD" said: silver lining.... the Vikings didnt get stupid and held hostage again.  Yes they lose the starting QB,  but they arent stuck in a bad contract for the next 4 years,  its going to  sting  a bit,  but they didnt overspend when backed into a corner,  which is typically their response to losing an aging impact type player that will likely decline over the course of the deal.  onto the next chapter.
“it’s gonna sting a bit”…understatement of the century
I am going to miss all those Division titles, playoff wins, and Super Bowl appearances. 
We will be probably missing a lot of things for awhile. But now that Kirko is gone, the curmudgeon crew can go after KAM. Then KOC. And keep hammering on the Wilfs. 
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@"StickyBun" said:
@"kmillard" said:
@"CFIAvike" said:
@"JimmyinSD" said: silver lining.... the Vikings didnt get stupid and held hostage again.  Yes they lose the starting QB,  but they arent stuck in a bad contract for the next 4 years,  its going to  sting  a bit,  but they didnt overspend when backed into a corner,  which is typically their response to losing an aging impact type player that will likely decline over the course of the deal.  onto the next chapter.
“it’s gonna sting a bit”…understatement of the century
I am going to miss all those Division titles, playoff wins, and Super Bowl appearances. 
We will be probably missing a lot of things for awhile. But now that Kirko is gone, the curmudgeon crew can go after KAM. Then KOC. And keep hammering on the Wilfs. 
What has been great in the Wilf era? Keeping the team in MPLS? Favre 2009? Miracle 2017? Viking fans should be used to mediocrity.
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@"kmillard" said:
@"StickyBun" said:
@"kmillard" said:
@"CFIAvike" said:
@"JimmyinSD" said: silver lining.... the Vikings didnt get stupid and held hostage again.  Yes they lose the starting QB,  but they arent stuck in a bad contract for the next 4 years,  its going to  sting  a bit,  but they didnt overspend when backed into a corner,  which is typically their response to losing an aging impact type player that will likely decline over the course of the deal.  onto the next chapter.
“it’s gonna sting a bit”…understatement of the century
I am going to miss all those Division titles, playoff wins, and Super Bowl appearances. 
We will be probably missing a lot of things for awhile. But now that Kirko is gone, the curmudgeon crew can go after KAM. Then KOC. And keep hammering on the Wilfs. 
What has been great in the Wilf era? Keeping the team in MPLS? Favre 2009? Miracle 2017? Viking fans should be used to mediocrity.
well,  as an in market fan of the team... I am pretty happy they didnt move the team,  would really suck to have to pay to watch their annual trials and tribulations.
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@"JimmyinSD" said:
@"kmillard" said:
@"StickyBun" said:
@"kmillard" said:
@"CFIAvike" said:
@"JimmyinSD" said: silver lining.... the Vikings didnt get stupid and held hostage again.  Yes they lose the starting QB,  but they arent stuck in a bad contract for the next 4 years,  its going to  sting  a bit,  but they didnt overspend when backed into a corner,  which is typically their response to losing an aging impact type player that will likely decline over the course of the deal.  onto the next chapter.
“it’s gonna sting a bit”…understatement of the century
I am going to miss all those Division titles, playoff wins, and Super Bowl appearances. 
We will be probably missing a lot of things for awhile. But now that Kirko is gone, the curmudgeon crew can go after KAM. Then KOC. And keep hammering on the Wilfs. 
What has been great in the Wilf era? Keeping the team in MPLS? Favre 2009? Miracle 2017? Viking fans should be used to mediocrity.
well,  as an in market fan of the team... I am pretty happy they didnt move the team,  would really suck to have to pay to watch their annual trials and tribulations.
That is their  good moment, though from a tax standpoint I would probably be against a stadium if they ever did it again. 
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While I am glad they are getting out of the contract cycle with Cousins, he's still going to be hard to replace. None of the QBs on the roster proved themselves to be ideal bridge QBs last season and while this is at least a better than normal crop of QBs, I expect that the Vikings are going to pay a lot to move up in the draft. It's a big risk, but it's about time they take a swing and we find out how much of a QB guru O'Connell is.

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@"JimmyinSD" said:
@"kmillard" said:
@"StickyBun" said:
@"kmillard" said:
@"CFIAvike" said:
@"JimmyinSD" said: silver lining.... the Vikings didnt get stupid and held hostage again.  Yes they lose the starting QB,  but they arent stuck in a bad contract for the next 4 years,  its going to  sting  a bit,  but they didnt overspend when backed into a corner,  which is typically their response to losing an aging impact type player that will likely decline over the course of the deal.  onto the next chapter.
“it’s gonna sting a bit”…understatement of the century
I am going to miss all those Division titles, playoff wins, and Super Bowl appearances. 
We will be probably missing a lot of things for awhile. But now that Kirko is gone, the curmudgeon crew can go after KAM. Then KOC. And keep hammering on the Wilfs. 
What has been great in the Wilf era? Keeping the team in MPLS? Favre 2009? Miracle 2017? Viking fans should be used to mediocrity.
well,  as an in market fan of the team... I am pretty happy they didnt move the team,  would really suck to have to pay to watch their annual trials and tribulations.
If the Vikings left Minnesota, I'd never watch them again - yuck.  I quit watching the NHL all together after the North Stars left.  I'm a Wild fan now, but I still hate the Dallas Stars to this day.
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@"purplefaithful" said:
@"Vikergirl" said: At some point, you have to move on. Would you rather have Cousins for 4 years/180 million?
$45mm was my #

How the rest of it was structured or guaranteed? I dont get paid enough to figure that out. 



Vikings offered more. Structure just wasn't going to work. They wanted to go year to year. 

#54 · Mar 11, 2:28 PM
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There are positives and negatives to this outcome. That contract was just too much and Atlanta surely knew it. Time to move to okan B.

As for the reason this team hasn’t won being Cousins fault, that’s absurd. This team can’t win the bug one because it can’t draft defense for s#it! 

Luckily, they are fixing that today in free agency! 

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@"Geoff Nichols" said:
@"purplefaithful" said:
@"Vikergirl" said: At some point, you have to move on. Would you rather have Cousins for 4 years/180 million?
$45mm was my #

How the rest of it was structured or guaranteed? I dont get paid enough to figure that out. 



Vikings offered more. Structure just wasn't going to work. They wanted to go year to year. 


Well I guess it was for the best 

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@"Vanguard83" said:
@"medaille" said:
@"Vanguard83" said: Would someone smarter than me please explain how the "tampering" thing works. I know all teams do it...BUT

How would the Vikings proceed? How is it verified, and what potential outcomes for the Vikings?  I always thought IF PROVEN, the team doing the "tampering" just loses a draft pick....nothing goes to the team that lost the player...

'lil help?


I think the most practical way to imagine it is that
tampering doesn’t really exist, unless you piss off the league a lot and they
want to rail you for something.

The Vikings wouldn’t pursue anything because they very
likely encouraged tampering because the alternative is that Kirk doesn’t start negotiating
with each team until today and it delays us knowing what our plans will be
until that negotiating is completed.  But
you are right that we would gain nothing from a tampering case.



OK - Thanks - Yeah I was reading people saying we would get "draft compensation" and I didn't think so.


That's because they never think about the flip side of the coin - the Vikings surely talked to plenty of agents during the combine about possible future signings.   In other words, they tampered.   It's similar to the legal doctrine of "clean hands."  You can't go after another team for tampering with Kirk when it would likely be very easy to prove you tampered with other team's players as well.   The two signings today alone pretty much prove it because they didn't just wake up this morning and call those agents and get a deal done in 2 hours on the fly.

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@"kmillard" said:
@"JimmyinSD" said:
@"kmillard" said:
@"StickyBun" said:
@"kmillard" said:
@"CFIAvike" said:
@"JimmyinSD" said: silver lining.... the Vikings didnt get stupid and held hostage again.  Yes they lose the starting QB,  but they arent stuck in a bad contract for the next 4 years,  its going to  sting  a bit,  but they didnt overspend when backed into a corner,  which is typically their response to losing an aging impact type player that will likely decline over the course of the deal.  onto the next chapter.
“it’s gonna sting a bit”…understatement of the century
I am going to miss all those Division titles, playoff wins, and Super Bowl appearances. 
We will be probably missing a lot of things for awhile. But now that Kirko is gone, the curmudgeon crew can go after KAM. Then KOC. And keep hammering on the Wilfs. 
What has been great in the Wilf era? Keeping the team in MPLS? Favre 2009? Miracle 2017? Viking fans should be used to mediocrity.
well,  as an in market fan of the team... I am pretty happy they didnt move the team,  would really suck to have to pay to watch their annual trials and tribulations.
That is their  good moment, though from a tax standpoint I would probably be against a stadium if they ever did it again. 
IIRC the state of Minnesota is about a decade ahead in terms of revenue projections from the pull tab sales that were earmarked for the stadium, add on top of that the additional revenue from hosting the superbowl as well as other events,  probably is saving tax payers money vs not having a pro team.
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@"Geoff Nichols" said:
@"purplefaithful" said:
@"Vikergirl" said: At some point, you have to move on. Would you rather have Cousins for 4 years/180 million?
$45mm was my #

How the rest of it was structured or guaranteed? I dont get paid enough to figure that out. 



Vikings offered more. Structure just wasn't going to work. They wanted to go year to year. 

Any idea what a plan B will look like?

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@"StickyBun" said:
@"kmillard" said:
@"CFIAvike" said:
@"JimmyinSD" said: silver lining.... the Vikings didnt get stupid and held hostage again.  Yes they lose the starting QB,  but they arent stuck in a bad contract for the next 4 years,  its going to  sting  a bit,  but they didnt overspend when backed into a corner,  which is typically their response to losing an aging impact type player that will likely decline over the course of the deal.  onto the next chapter.
“it’s gonna sting a bit”…understatement of the century
I am going to miss all those Division titles, playoff wins, and Super Bowl appearances. 
We will be probably missing a lot of things for awhile. But now that Kirko is gone, the curmudgeon crew can go after KAM. Then KOC. And keep hammering on the Wilfs. 
Wait till they come after Stickybun!  =) :p
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@"AGRforever" said:
@"Geoff Nichols" said:
@"purplefaithful" said:
@"Vikergirl" said: At some point, you have to move on. Would you rather have Cousins for 4 years/180 million?
$45mm was my #

How the rest of it was structured or guaranteed? I dont get paid enough to figure that out. 



Vikings offered more. Structure just wasn't going to work. They wanted to go year to year. 

Any idea what a plan B will look like?



pill form,  no baby.

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