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https://www.si.com/nfl/vikings/news/jim-harbaugh-watch-decision-could-come-down-convincing-vikings-ownership

Like I said in another thread, this is Kwesi's guy. This interview is about getting the Wilfs blessing/sign off/ fears quelled/questions answered.

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@"JustinTime18™" said: https://www.si.com/nfl/vikings/news/jim-harbaugh-watch-decision-could-come-down-convincing-vikings-ownership

Like I said in another thread, this is Kwesi's guy. This interview is about getting the Wilfs blessing/sign off/ fears quelled/questions answered.


Agreed. So if this is Kwesi's 'ride or die' guy, because this is exactly what this would be for him and everyone on this board has been GUSHING over him (Kwesi).....why wouldn't you give the KAMster the benefit of the doubt then? Isn't that what logic would dictate then? Nobody is forcing this on him, he's choosing to pull Harbaugh on his own. 

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I would like to know where do MY feelings and fears fit into this hierarchy of needing to address???

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@"purplefaithful" said: I would like to know where do MY feelings and fears fit into this hierarchy of needing to address???


If Kwesi returns my call, I'll bring it up.

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@"StickyBun" said:
@"JustinTime18™" said: https://www.si.com/nfl/vikings/news/jim-harbaugh-watch-decision-could-come-down-convincing-vikings-ownership

Like I said in another thread, this is Kwesi's guy. This interview is about getting the Wilfs blessing/sign off/ fears quelled/questions answered.


Agreed. So if this is Kwesi's 'ride or die' guy, because this is exactly what this would be for him and everyone on this board has been GUSHING over him (Kwesi).....why wouldn't you give the KAMster the benefit of the doubt then? Isn't that what logic would dictate then? Nobody is forcing this on him, he's choosing to pull Harbaugh on his own. 


Yup, Harbaugh was one of the three HC candidates he brought up in his interview. 

This is, for all intents and purposes, a formality the more I think about it.

Getcha khakis ready!

Who's got it better than us?!

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@"purplefaithful" said: I would like to know where do MY feelings and fears fit into this hierarchy of needing to address???


There's 10% of me that feels like you do, PF....but I've suppressed it.  :p

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@"purplefaithful" said: I would like to know where do MY feelings and fears fit into this hierarchy of needing to address???


Just keep thinking about Harbaugh curb stomping Tomasson.

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Cris must have a patsy within the organization still.

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The Michigan fans certainly aren't excited he's potentially leaving.
https://www.reddit.com/r/MichiganWolverines/comments/si9ok3/sources_tell_chris_balas_that_jim_harbaugh_plans/

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@"JustinTime18™" said: https://twitter.com/i/status/1488859751915999234

Cris must have a patsy within the organization still.


Yup, Cris must…

I am very mixed on this dealio. The past success certainly is tantalizing but my biggest hope is that IF Harbaugh is the guy that he’s bringing some great coaches because they’re really going to have to coach up and show their chops with certain areas of the roster.  We’ll be fielding a lot of new faces I believe. 

I also can’t deny that I was excited about getting in on the ground floor of a guy like O’Connell. 

The idea of 2 very strange/nerdy/weird people being front and center for our beloved team is a bit trepidatious for me, and so the Kirk and Jim cocktail wigs me out. Gotta hope for some awesome coordinators and position coaches to buffer the situation…

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#Vikings Mason Cole on Jim Harbaugh (2017)

"At first when you get a new coach, at least in my experience, you don't know how he is as a person. Coach Harbaugh is not only a great coach, but a great guy. He'll do anything for his players and anything for the people around him."

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If Jim Harbaugh and the #Vikings indeed reach the finish line, I'm interested to see the coaching staff he puts together.

You have to believe Harbaugh could attract a few big names. Coaches like Vic Fangio, Pep Hamilton and Ed Donatell all come to mind.

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Not sure who Carter's sources are, but Darren Wolfson reported that Kwesi Adofo-Mensah gave the Vikings 3 HC names when he 1st interviewed: Jim Harbaugh, Patrick Graham & Kevin O'Connell. Also widely reported that it is ownership that needs to be sold on Harbaugh.
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@"JustinTime18™" said:
Not sure who Carter's sources are, but Darren Wolfson reported that Kwesi Adofo-Mensah gave the Vikings 3 HC names when he 1st interviewed: Jim Harbaugh, Patrick Graham & Kevin O'Connell. Also widely reported that it is ownership that needs to be sold on Harbaugh.

Interesting that Carter is saying it's the Wilfs that want Harbaugh and other reports saying it's the Wilfs that need to be convinced on Harbaugh. I'm guessing the Wilfs are just looking for certain guarantees from him before signing off on it 

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This makes possible sense. And I do believe there might be some pressure to not hire a white guy. Yet the rumors are all over the place, lol. Its nuts.

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There were strong opinions on Kam not having enough experience in the NFL and/or playing time.  Does hiring an experienced staff calm those nerves?

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@"StickyBun" said: This makes possible sense. And I do believe there might be some pressure to not hire a white guy. Yet the rumors are all over the place, lol. Its nuts.

https://twitter.com/ChadGraff/status/1488890824071028737


After yesterday's news about Flores and meaningless Rooney interviews, I would expect lots of leaks that Harbaugh is not a done deal.

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NFL hirings can take surprise twists, but the expectation at Michigan from those I've talked to is Harbaugh will head back to the league. Several U-M sources said he began the goodbye process earlier this week, as
@Balas_Wolverine first reported.
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This is not about Matt Eberflus.
He was a quality candidate to become head coach of the Bears, and cautious optimism is a reasonable response to his hiring. Eberflus clearly has abilities as a leader, teacher and reacher of people. He has a touch that can lift players and bring defenses together.
Among those who believe in him are Colts general manager Chris Ballard, former Cowboys defensive coordinator Monte Kiffin, former Cowboys defensive coordinator Rod Marinelli, Raiders head coach Josh McDaniels (who agreed to hire him as his defensive coordinator with the Colts before backing out) and Colts head coach Frank Reich. These men have credibility. They have track records of endorsing people who should be endorsed.
That being said, Eberflus’ record as a head coach is 0-0.
Jim Harbaugh’s record as a head coach is 166-67.
Harbaugh went 49-22-1 as head coach of the 49ers. He took them to one Super Bowl and three championship games.
The reigning college coach of the year, Harbaugh is coming off a remarkable season at Michigan, having finished 12-2 and made it to the College Football Playoff before a loss to Georgia, the eventual national champion. His record at Michigan is 49-22.
His record at Stanford, a perennial loser before his arrival, was 29-21. He took the Cardinal to their first bowl game in eight years and gave them their first bowl game victory in 14. At the University of San Diego, he was 29-6.
Harbaugh is a proven head coach, a proven winner.
And he’s something else.
He’s a Bear.
But from all indications, he was not interviewed for their head coaching job.
This ranks higher on the mind-boggling scale than offering former center Olin Kreutz $15 an hour.
The fact that Harbaugh played for the Bears was not why he should have been interviewed. But the fact that he played seven years for the Bears after they chose him in the first round of the 1987 draft made him a stronger candidate. Harbaugh understands the Bears organization and its specific challenges better than almost any other declared candidate could have, except former Bear Leslie Frazier. Consideration of Harbaugh would have been a popular move with alumni, some of whom feel ignored or alienated by the team.
But there were better reasons he should have been a candidate.
Harbaugh is a natural-born leader. That was evident from his rookie training camp when he stood up to the teammate the others called “The King,” Dan Hampton. The defensive lineman took exception to Harbaugh’s running around and shoved him. Harbaugh shoved back. It wasn’t long before Harbaugh had followers of his own.
Eberflus is a defensive specialist. It’s always preferable to hire an offensive specialist if all things are equal, especially when your team has a first-round quarterback who needs to be developed. Harbaugh is an offensive specialist.
Harbaugh has called plays and developed quarterbacks, including Andrew Luck and Colin Kaepernick.
Luke Getsy, hired by the Bears on Sunday, could be the next Matt LaFleur. His potential is obvious. But no one knows with certainty what kind of play caller or quarterback developer he will be because he’s never done it in the NFL.
Harbaugh always has been adaptable in terms of scheme. The offensive identity he is most associated with would work well in Chicago. He likes a power run game. His 49ers teams ranked in the top four in rushing offenses in his final three years. His first three offenses also ranked in the top four for points scored.
Harbaugh’s 49ers defenses also were worthy. All four of them finished in the top five of the NFL. His defensive coordinator was former Bears defensive coordinator Vic Fangio, who happens to be looking for work and longing for the rigatoni Bolognese from Maria’s Bakery in Highwood.
We often talk about how coaches who struggled in their first jobs can learn from mistakes and improve in their second jobs. The same goes for coaches, like Harbaugh, who did well in their first jobs. At 58, he should be a better NFL coach now than he was with the 49ers.
Why didn’t the Bears give him more consideration? All we can do is speculate. Harbaugh probably would have cost more than Eberflus. He also might have demanded more control.
Some prices are worth paying.
At a party in Canton, Ohio, for Jim Covert’s induction to the Pro Football Hall of Fame last August, Harbaugh renewed acquaintances with George McCaskey, Virginia McCaskey and other family members. The conversations were pleasant.
Harbaugh also has a history with Bill Polian, the consultant in the hiring process. Polian was in his first year as general manager of the Colts in 1997 when Harbaugh was their quarterback. The Colts had the first pick in the 1998 draft, so Polian traded Harbaugh to the Ravens to make way for Peyton Manning.
Relationships should not have been a barrier.
It has been reported that Harbaugh is talking with the Vikings about their head coaching position and that he could be bought out of his contract with Michigan for $1.5 million.
What is significant is Harbaugh apparently is open to moving to the NFL. But the Bears apparently were not open to him.
The Bears talk a lot about how they value their fans. Harbaugh would have made those fans happier than anyone.
Eberflus will make Bears fans happy if he wins.
But if he has to beat Harbaugh twice a year, his job is going to be more difficult.

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So a Michigan Alum. (or “close ties”) or whatever.....is “urging the Wilfs not to hire Harbaugh”

Gee.......Thats a pretty ringing endorsement.  
You dont suppose MAYBE this individual wants Harbaugh to stay with Michigan???

It would be like a USC fan telling Seattle ownership not to hire Pete Carroll

DUH

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