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https://www.si.com/nfl/vikings/news/jim-harbaugh-watch-decision-could-come-down-convincing-vikings-ownership

Like I said in another thread, this is Kwesi's guy. This interview is about getting the Wilfs blessing/sign off/ fears quelled/questions answered.

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#1 · Feb 2, 6:49 AM
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@"MarkSP18" said: I'm not too big of a fan of Jimmy

Jimmy knows QBs though.

Here are Jimmy's QBs at Michigan ...

Jake Rudduck

Wilton Speight

John O'Korn

Shea Patterson

Joe Milton

Cade McNamara

 ... Yuck!

Keep Jimmy away from decisions about which QB to draft please.

Here is how I really feel about Coach Hairball ...


He was also the QB coach of Rich Gannon his 2002 NFL MVP year.  Coached up Andrew Luck at Stanford, turned around Alex Smith's career, and helped Colin Kaepernick become a star.  

QB recruiting of a big 10 school is a tad different than your ability to work with pros (which he has done a fantastic job at).

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@"Skodin" said:
@"MarkSP18" said: I'm not too big of a fan of Jimmy

Jimmy knows QBs though.

Here are Jimmy's QBs at Michigan ...

Jake Rudduck

Wilton Speight

John O'Korn

Shea Patterson

Joe Milton

Cade McNamara

 ... Yuck!

Keep Jimmy away from decisions about which QB to draft please.

Here is how I really feel about Coach Hairball ...


He was also the QB coach of Rich Gannon his 2002 NFL MVP year.  Coached up Andrew Luck at Stanford, turned around Alex Smith's career, and helped Colin Kaepernick become a star.  

QB recruiting of a big 10 school is a tad different than your ability to work with pros (which he has done a fantastic job at).



He gets credit for Gannon yet Geep Chryst, the QB coach for the 49ers in 2011 & 2012 does not.  Got it.

Smith was OK and they drafted Kaepernick and traded Smith because they liked him so much.

The thing I like the most about him is that he said he does not want to be involved in personnel decisions.

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#43 · Feb 2, 12:49 PM
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I am torn as I feel this is the same as the GM hire:

High risk, but high reward.

This is only going to go one of two ways:  fail spectacularly, or just so crazy it might just work.

The only poker chips I'm playing with are my emotions ... well fuck it, let's go all in rather than playing it safe and being a perennial borderline playoff caliber team.

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@"MarkSP18" said:
@"Skodin" said:
@"MarkSP18" said: I'm not too big of a fan of Jimmy

Jimmy knows QBs though.

Here are Jimmy's QBs at Michigan ...

Jake Rudduck

Wilton Speight

John O'Korn

Shea Patterson

Joe Milton

Cade McNamara

 ... Yuck!

Keep Jimmy away from decisions about which QB to draft please.

Here is how I really feel about Coach Hairball ...


He was also the QB coach of Rich Gannon his 2002 NFL MVP year.  Coached up Andrew Luck at Stanford, turned around Alex Smith's career, and helped Colin Kaepernick become a star.  

QB recruiting of a big 10 school is a tad different than your ability to work with pros (which he has done a fantastic job at).



He gets credit for Gannon yet Geep Chryst, the QB coach for the 49ers in 2011 & 2012 does not.  Got it.

Smith was OK and they drafted Kaepernick and traded Smith because they liked him so much.

The thing I like the most about him is that he said he does not want to be involved in personnel decisions.



Smith was teetering on being a bust before Harbaugh got there.  He turned him into a damn good QB who lead multiple lead taking drives in the divisional and championship games late in the 4th quarter.  He was a little more than OK with 5 TDs and 500 yards in passing in those two playoff games.

2012 was his best season yet (top 4 QB rating, best passing completion %) but was injured with a concussion when Kaep came in and became the hot hand.  Harbaugh stuck with the hot hand and was a goal to go situation from winning a championship.  He was dealt for (2) 2nd round picks and went to the Pro Bowl his first in KC.  Smith did a great job but his career would have been drastically different without the staff lead by Harbaugh.

Throw in bringing in Pep Hamilton who coached up Luck & Herbert their rookie years, Davis Mills this year in Houston, these guys know QBs

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@"SFVikeFan" said: I am torn as I feel this is the same as the GM hire:

High risk, but high reward.

This is only going to go one of two ways:  fail spectacularly, or just so crazy it might just work.

The only poker chips I'm playing with are my emotions ... well fuck it, let's go all in rather than playing it safe and being a perennial borderline playoff caliber team.


After hearing testimonies of him being a very demanding yet a "players coach", I'm starting to like the idea of Harbaugh too, but I'm still not sold.  I guess I don't have to be unless he's actually hired.
If he becomes the Vikes new HC, I hope it's a case of "hating him until I love him" and he wins me over.  B)

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For this being a supposedly just a formality, it sure is taking along time for any information to leak out.  Maybe the longer it takes means that not everybody (ownership) is onboard the Jim Harbaugh express.  

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@"Greylock" said: For this being a supposedly just a formality, it sure is taking along time for any information to leak out.  Maybe the longer it takes means that not everybody (ownership) is onboard the Jim Harbaugh express.  
It is likely in between.  The Wilfs are likely just tying off for final buy in.  The last thing they want is to piss off Kwesi and team instantly by overruling a decision he makes.  I have to believe if Harbaugh is Kwesi's guy and Harbaugh is reasonable to even slightly unreasonable in his demands, he will be our coach.  There are a lot of boxes to check to make sure there isn't a backlash regarding minority hiring etc., so formality processes are going the way of the abacus more every day.  I don't think that changes the fact that Kwesi feels Harbaugh is the guy for the job, and he'll be our next coach if so.   I do believe it takes a little longer and is a little more silent because of what I've said above, and because Harbaugh will need some plausible deniability should he return to Michigan because they couldn't come together on the money.
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@"Skodin" said:
@"MarkSP18" said:
@"Skodin" said:
@"MarkSP18" said: I'm not too big of a fan of Jimmy

Jimmy knows QBs though.

Here are Jimmy's QBs at Michigan ...

Jake Rudduck

Wilton Speight

John O'Korn

Shea Patterson

Joe Milton

Cade McNamara

 ... Yuck!

Keep Jimmy away from decisions about which QB to draft please.

Here is how I really feel about Coach Hairball ...


He was also the QB coach of Rich Gannon his 2002 NFL MVP year.  Coached up Andrew Luck at Stanford, turned around Alex Smith's career, and helped Colin Kaepernick become a star.  

QB recruiting of a big 10 school is a tad different than your ability to work with pros (which he has done a fantastic job at).



He gets credit for Gannon yet Geep Chryst, the QB coach for the 49ers in 2011 & 2012 does not.  Got it.

Smith was OK and they drafted Kaepernick and traded Smith because they liked him so much.

The thing I like the most about him is that he said he does not want to be involved in personnel decisions.



Smith was teetering on being a bust before Harbaugh got there.  He turned him into a damn good QB who lead multiple lead taking drives in the divisional and championship games late in the 4th quarter.  He was a little more than OK with 5 TDs and 500 yards in passing in those two playoff games.

2012 was his best season yet (top 4 QB rating, best passing completion %) but was injured with a concussion when Kaep came in and became the hot hand.  Harbaugh stuck with the hot hand and was a goal to go situation from winning a championship.  He was dealt for (2) 2nd round picks and went to the Pro Bowl his first in KC.  Smith did a great job but his career would have been drastically different without the staff lead by Harbaugh.

Throw in bringing in Pep Hamilton who coached up Luck & Herbert their rookie years, Davis Mills this year in Houston, these guys know QBs



Crazy part of all this is I was wanting Pep Hamilton for HC months ago.  

To bring him in as OC with Harbaugh as HC would be a scenario I would have never imagined even possible.  Our offense and QBing would go to a new level.  

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@"JustinTime18™" said:
CB Patrick Peterson said he would be "thrilled" to play for Jim Harbaugh if he is in-fact hired to be the #Vikings next HC.
That's not necessarily a ringing endorsement for JH more like a "I got your back/begging for another paycheck."
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9 hours later, Harbaugh is still interviewing. I was told this is a thing they only do for sham virtue signal interviews

They doing a cavity search too?

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@"JustinTime18™" said:
9 hours later, Harbaugh is still interviewing. I was told this is a thing they only do for sham virtue signal interviews

They doing a cavity search too?



Talking $$$ by now i expect

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Jim Harbaugh’s real name is James Joseph Harbaugh(Jim Joe). His parents are named Jacqueline(Jackie) and Jack. His brother is named John and his sister is named Joanie. He has four sons named Jay, James, Jack, and John.

Something tells me he’s going to like Justin Jefferson.

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It would seem to make sense to me that this is quite serious if he’s still there. Hopefully whomever had troubles in the organization with him have had a chance to speak their peace. 

Step 1 Sign the guy
Step 2 Bring in some great coordinators 
Step 3 Win a freaking superbowl!!!

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#55 · Feb 2, 5:18 PM
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You Catholics out there should know what this is...

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#56 · Feb 2, 5:27 PM
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Pope smoke

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@"JustinTime18™" said:
9 hours later, Harbaugh is still interviewing. I was told this is a thing they only do for sham virtue signal interviews

They doing a cavity search too?


So Graham is out too…!!!??? 

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#58 · Feb 2, 5:57 PM
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I hope it’s O’Connell…

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No Harbaugh from Schefter about an hour ago:
I, for one, am thrilled.  

Things can change in a hurry, that’s for sure.
While it appeared that Michigan football head coach Jim Harbaugh was on his way out, as reports surfaced from multiple different places noting that he would accept the Minnesota Vikings job if offered, things apparently have changed.
Harbaugh traveled to Minneapolis for an interview with the Vikings brass on Tuesday night, and had said interview on Wednesday. Reports indicated it was but a formality and that Harbaugh would be the franchise’s next head coach. However, according to ESPN NFL insider Adam Schefter, Harbaugh reversed course, telling Michigan that he will be returning to Ann Arbor after all.

Jim Harbaugh called Michigan to inform the school that, despite interviewing with the Vikings today, he will be returning to school for the 2022 season, sources tell ESPN. Michigan was, in the words of one source, “elated” to get Harbaugh’s decision.
— Adam Schefter (@AdamSchefterFebruary 3, 2022
So, the saga is over for now. Harbaugh still has to sign his contract extension to make it official, but the Wolverines will not be searching for a new head coach after all.

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