Zeus Jr Wants Out of Baltimore

Apollo is a LT damn it....!  ;)  

@"BarrNone55" said:

ORLANDO BROWNT, BALTIMORE RAVENS

ESPN's Jeremy Fowler reports the Ravens are allowing OT Orlando Brown's agent to explode trade scenarios. The 2018 third-year pro has decided he's a left tackle after ably filling in for Ronnie Stanley in 2020. The Ravens are going to require a genuine haul to trade their mauling right tackle, but a disgruntled player who is presumably not amendable to signing an extension, Brown would fetch an early-round pick. At least "exploring" a trade makes all the sense in the world. 

SOURCE: Jeremy Fowler on Twitter

These players now a days are ridiculous. It's "I don't like my position" or "I don't have enough say in personnel" or "I don't like the style of offense we run" so going to demand a trade.  I hope more of these teams stick to their guns and not let the players dictate their way out of town over a hissy fit.  We just let Diggs do that exact same thing. Honor your contract and when you hit free agency...go wherever you want.  Until that time, they need to quit bitching and play football. 

Probably just his way of saying pay me LT money.  I honestly doubt he cares if he plays Left or Right Tackle as long as checks reflect top tier pay.

@"supafreak84" said:

@"BarrNone55" said:

ORLANDO BROWNT, BALTIMORE RAVENS

ESPN's Jeremy Fowler reports the Ravens are allowing OT Orlando Brown's agent to explode trade scenarios. The 2018 third-year pro has decided he's a left tackle after ably filling in for Ronnie Stanley in 2020. The Ravens are going to require a genuine haul to trade their mauling right tackle, but a disgruntled player who is presumably not amendable to signing an extension, Brown would fetch an early-round pick. At least "exploring" a trade makes all the sense in the world. 

SOURCE: Jeremy Fowler on Twitter

These players now a days are ridiculous. It's "I don't like my position" or "I don't have enough say in personnel" or "I don't like the style of offense we run" so going to demand a trade.  I hope more of these teams stick to their guns and not let the players dictate their way out of town over a hissy fit.  We just let Diggs do that exact same thing. Honor your contract and when you hit free agency...go wherever you want.  Until that time, they need to quit bitching and play football. 

Young NFL players see themselves as NBA superstars - hanging out with hip-hop singers, controlling where and who they play with.

Old NFL fans want the players to be like the boys on their local high-school team.

@"Jor-El" said: Young NFL players see themselves as NBA superstars - hanging out with hip-hop singers, controlling where and who they play with.

Old NFL fans want the players to be like the boys on their local high-school team.

@"MaroonBells" said:

@"Jor-El" said: Young NFL players see themselves as NBA superstars - hanging out with hip-hop singers, controlling where and who they play with.

Old NFL fans want the players to be like the boys on their local high-school team.

And owners are....?

@"JimmyinSD" said: Probably just his way of saying pay me LT money.  I honestly doubt he cares if he plays Left or Right Tackle as long as checks reflect top tier pay.

Will the Vikings try to pay him the lower salary of a RT? I could see it as a point of contention. The difference between LT and RT might not be as extreme as it was a few years ago, though - there are some RTs like Lane Johnson with high salaries. 

Of note, the Vikings are very involved on this. 

@"Geoff Nichols" said: Of note, the Vikings are very involved on this. 

@"BarrNone55" said:

@"Geoff Nichols" said: Of note, the Vikings are very involved on this. 

Oh? Do tell. 

You know, just another case if Rick had listened to me in the first place.

Man it would be killer to not have OT as a problem going forward.  Imagine what this team could do with a great OL.  Then Zimmer needs to prove he can field a decent defense again and we're in the hunt.  Though as was evidenced by the SB you need to have a pass rush to beat teams like KC. 

@"Geoff Nichols" said:

@"BarrNone55" said:

@"Geoff Nichols" said: Of note, the Vikings are very involved on this. 

Oh? Do tell. 

I don't know what they've offered or if they've formally made an offer. But lets say the Vikings could offer #14 and send the Ravens back their 3rd #91 for #27 and Brown. That is a late 1st/early 2nd valuation and I think it honestly makes sense from the MN side. 

You trade back in the 1st which puts you in a better position to target a DT or DE. You add a premiere LT that is about to turn 25. It allows you to move on from Reiff now and save a net $8.5M or so once you add in Browns cap hit to the 2021 cap. 

Sure, you'll need to extend Brown on a long-term deal but that won't really impact the cap in 2021 and you can keep the 2022 number lower than a Reiff restructure as well. Then in 2023 you'd see the brunt of the extension. 

Not saying it'll happen but I can see why they'd be exploring it (as are many teams) I just know the Vikings are more serious than some. Brown/O'Neill would be a great OT combo for the next decade or so. 

@"Jor-El" said:

@"Geoff Nichols" said:

@"BarrNone55" said:

@"Geoff Nichols" said: Of note, the Vikings are very involved on this. 

Oh? Do tell. 

I don't know what they've offered or if they've formally made an offer. But lets say the Vikings could offer #14 and send the Ravens back their 3rd #91 for #27 and Brown. That is a late 1st/early 2nd valuation and I think it honestly makes sense from the MN side. 

You trade back in the 1st which puts you in a better position to target a DT or DE. You add a premiere LT that is about to turn 25. It allows you to move on from Reiff now and save a net $8.5M or so once you add in Browns cap hit to the 2021 cap. 

Sure, you'll need to extend Brown on a long-term deal but that won't really impact the cap in 2021 and you can keep the 2022 number lower than a Reiff restructure as well. Then in 2023 you'd see the brunt of the extension. 

Not saying it'll happen but I can see why they'd be exploring it (as are many teams) I just know the Vikings are more serious than some. Brown/O'Neill would be a great OT combo for the next decade or so. 

Wow, a bit shocked at the idea. Any worries that Brown isn't going to be as good at LT? Or...fitting the Vikings' blocking scheme? Normally I would not expect them to target an OL who weighs 355 and ran a ten-minute 40..;)

Would this change the contract conversations with O'Neill?

@"Geoff Nichols" said:

@"BarrNone55" said:

@"Geoff Nichols" said: Of note, the Vikings are very involved on this. 

Oh? Do tell. 

I don't know what they've offered or if they've formally made an offer. But lets say the Vikings could offer #14 and send the Ravens back their 3rd #91 for #27 and Brown. That is a late 1st/early 2nd valuation and I think it honestly makes sense from the MN side. 

You trade back in the 1st which puts you in a better position to target a DT or DE. You add a premiere LT that is about to turn 25. It allows you to move on from Reiff now and save a net $8.5M or so once you add in Browns cap hit to the 2021 cap. 

Sure, you'll need to extend Brown on a long-term deal but that won't really impact the cap in 2021 and you can keep the 2022 number lower than a Reiff restructure as well. Then in 2023 you'd see the brunt of the extension. 

Not saying it'll happen but I can see why they'd be exploring it (as are many teams) I just know the Vikings are more serious than some. Brown/O'Neill would be a great OT combo for the next decade or so. 

@"Knucklehead" said:

@"Geoff Nichols" said:

@"BarrNone55" said:

@"Geoff Nichols" said: Of note, the Vikings are very involved on this. 

Oh? Do tell. 

I don't know what they've offered or if they've formally made an offer. But lets say the Vikings could offer #14 and send the Ravens back their 3rd #91 for #27 and Brown. That is a late 1st/early 2nd valuation and I think it honestly makes sense from the MN side. 

You trade back in the 1st which puts you in a better position to target a DT or DE. You add a premiere LT that is about to turn 25. It allows you to move on from Reiff now and save a net $8.5M or so once you add in Browns cap hit to the 2021 cap. 

Sure, you'll need to extend Brown on a long-term deal but that won't really impact the cap in 2021 and you can keep the 2022 number lower than a Reiff restructure as well. Then in 2023 you'd see the brunt of the extension. 

Not saying it'll happen but I can see why they'd be exploring it (as are many teams) I just know the Vikings are more serious than some. Brown/O'Neill would be a great OT combo for the next decade or so. 

Only issue that I see with this is having to extend both O'Neill & Brown in consecutive years. That's a lot of cap dedicated to your OT's. 

@"Knucklehead" said:

@"Geoff Nichols" said:

@"BarrNone55" said:

@"Geoff Nichols" said: Of note, the Vikings are very involved on this. 

Oh? Do tell. 

I don't know what they've offered or if they've formally made an offer. But lets say the Vikings could offer #14 and send the Ravens back their 3rd #91 for #27 and Brown. That is a late 1st/early 2nd valuation and I think it honestly makes sense from the MN side. 

You trade back in the 1st which puts you in a better position to target a DT or DE. You add a premiere LT that is about to turn 25. It allows you to move on from Reiff now and save a net $8.5M or so once you add in Browns cap hit to the 2021 cap. 

Sure, you'll need to extend Brown on a long-term deal but that won't really impact the cap in 2021 and you can keep the 2022 number lower than a Reiff restructure as well. Then in 2023 you'd see the brunt of the extension. 

Not saying it'll happen but I can see why they'd be exploring it (as are many teams) I just know the Vikings are more serious than some. Brown/O'Neill would be a great OT combo for the next decade or so. 

Only issue that I see with this is having to extend both O'Neill & Brown in consecutive years. That's a lot of cap dedicated to your OT's. 

@"greediron" said:

@"Knucklehead" said:

@"Geoff Nichols" said:

@"BarrNone55" said:

@"Geoff Nichols" said: Of note, the Vikings are very involved on this. 

Oh? Do tell. 

I don't know what they've offered or if they've formally made an offer. But lets say the Vikings could offer #14 and send the Ravens back their 3rd #91 for #27 and Brown. That is a late 1st/early 2nd valuation and I think it honestly makes sense from the MN side. 

You trade back in the 1st which puts you in a better position to target a DT or DE. You add a premiere LT that is about to turn 25. It allows you to move on from Reiff now and save a net $8.5M or so once you add in Browns cap hit to the 2021 cap. 

Sure, you'll need to extend Brown on a long-term deal but that won't really impact the cap in 2021 and you can keep the 2022 number lower than a Reiff restructure as well. Then in 2023 you'd see the brunt of the extension. 

Not saying it'll happen but I can see why they'd be exploring it (as are many teams) I just know the Vikings are more serious than some. Brown/O'Neill would be a great OT combo for the next decade or so. 

Only issue that I see with this is having to extend both O'Neill & Brown in consecutive years. That's a lot of cap dedicated to your OT's. 

Yes and with both O'Neill and Cleveland being possible LTs, I don't know that adding a highly paid possible diva at LT is what this team needs.