Could The Vikings Trade Diggs This Offseason?
https://thevikingage.com/2020/02/06/could-minnesota-vikings-trade-diggs/quote
30th in pass attempts
$58 million of a ~$200 million cap tied up in Cousins, Thielen, and Diggs
Remembering back to the days of Robert Ferguson and Bobby Wade, I'm not crazy about moving a talented but obvious diva, but man, how can you make a strong case for keeping him? Especially in light of his desire to be gone?
@"MaroonBells" said: Was listening to a Vikings podcast on my commute. Apparently, the "business is business" tweet was part of a thread about Darius Slay. I would imagine, like the rest of us, there's more to his life than his job.Is it possible that a team will see his talent v. contract as a steal and make the Vikings an offer they can't refuse. Yes, but it would have to be an emormous offer for the Vikings to bite. First of all, it saves the Vikings only $5M. You can find that much in the couch cushions. So it's not about savings. Second, the dead cap that the Vikings would immediately swallow is $9M, meaning the Vikings would be paying $9M for Diggs to play for someone else.
If there's one thing you can say about this team it's that they like to operate as financial efficient as possible. Dead money is a pariah to Rick and Rob. ...and for what it's worth, this is also why restructuring rather than releasing players like Reiff and Rhodes is very possible.
Of course the team eating that much signing bonus is part of what will make any trade offer more attractive than a guy with just 1 year left or a guy that is owed a monster number per year. Some team would essentially be having to buy Vikings cap space with any offer they make.
https://thespun.com/nfl/nfc-north/minnesota-vikings/vikings-wr-stefon-diggs-posts-another-cryptic-message
@"BarrNone55" said: https://thespun.com/nfl/nfc-north/minnesota-vikings/vikings-wr-stefon-diggs-posts-another-cryptic-messageis he going to have a sex video come out?
"With all that said, if the Vikings don't push for more than a third-round pick — though a swap of day-three picks could be considered — and Diggs doesn't push for a renegotiated contract, I would seriously consider a trade."
Oh, you'd seriously consider it if all we wanted was a 3rd rounder. We'll get right on that. Dingbat.
@"MaroonBells" said: https://www.si.com/nfl/broncos/news/what-it-would-cost-denver-broncos-to-acquire-wr-stefon-diggs-via-trade-from-minnesota-vikings"With all that said, if the Vikings don't push for more than a third-round pick — though a swap of day-three picks could be considered — and Diggs doesn't push for a renegotiated contract, I would seriously consider a trade."
Oh, you'd seriously consider it if all we wanted was a 3rd rounder. We'll get right on that. Dingbat.
Rick would be fired on the spot if he dealt Diggs for only a 3rd and had to eat that 9 million to boot. That writer is a fantasy football fool.
@"JimmyinSD" said:@"MaroonBells" said: https://www.si.com/nfl/broncos/news/what-it-would-cost-denver-broncos-to-acquire-wr-stefon-diggs-via-trade-from-minnesota-vikings"With all that said, if the Vikings don't push for more than a third-round pick — though a swap of day-three picks could be considered — and Diggs doesn't push for a renegotiated contract, I would seriously consider a trade."
Oh, you'd seriously consider it if all we wanted was a 3rd rounder. We'll get right on that. Dingbat.
Rick would be fired on the spot if he dealt Diggs for only a 3rd and had to eat that 9 million to boot. That writer is a fantasy football fool.
I think even Diggs knows that a trade really isn't a real possibility until 2021when his dead money number is 6 mil. Even then, that is still a decent amount to swallow.
@"Canthony" said:@"JimmyinSD" said:@"MaroonBells" said: https://www.si.com/nfl/broncos/news/what-it-would-cost-denver-broncos-to-acquire-wr-stefon-diggs-via-trade-from-minnesota-vikings"With all that said, if the Vikings don't push for more than a third-round pick — though a swap of day-three picks could be considered — and Diggs doesn't push for a renegotiated contract, I would seriously consider a trade."
Oh, you'd seriously consider it if all we wanted was a 3rd rounder. We'll get right on that. Dingbat.
Rick would be fired on the spot if he dealt Diggs for only a 3rd and had to eat that 9 million to boot. That writer is a fantasy football fool.
I think even Diggs knows that a trade really isn't a real possibility until 2021when his dead money number is 6 mil. Even then, that is still a decent amount to swallow.
I dont think the dead money prevents him from being traded, it just ups the asking price a little bit. draft picks have a monetary value IMO and if somebody wants Diggs they should be willing to make the offer cover the extra years of service under a cheaper contract that was created by that signing bonus. if his contract was more per year money and less signing bonus you know that would negatively affect the offer so why shouldnt it be the opposite when its this way?
just offseason drama as usual ---no reason to even consider the trading of one of the dynamic duo. Remember how easy it is to frustrate either him or thielen we the other isn't on the field.
Ya don't extend talented WRs only to look to go back to the draft to replace them 2/3 years into that extension window
@"Akvike" said: just offseason drama as usual ---no reason to even consider the trading of one of the dynamic duo. Remember how easy it is to frustrate either him or thielen we the other isn't on the field.Ya don't extend talented WRs only to look to go back to the draft to replace them 2/3 years into that extension window
depends on what he is saying behind the scene, if he really is wanting out for better endorsement opportunities elsewhere he will play nice for a while to save his image, but if he is really wanting out he wont stay nice for long, especially behind the scenes and once he starts to become a problem his value will drop.
@"BarrNone55" said: https://twitter.com/i/status/1229427786122555393Once a team offers a 1st I think you can at least begin to have some conversations. If the Patriots want to give up #23 and multiple mid-round selections you could rationalize it. But as I mentioned before, it has to be a straight up overpay to deal Diggs.
IMO this is all just fan speculation fueled by reading a ton of draft info and thinking, "How could my team get more of these prospects I'm falling in love with?" I've been there - they all look like can't-miss improvements over what's on our roster and you can convince yourself to dump half your team, especially those with trade value.
Diggs for 1 first round pick, the 23rd? Spielman got more than that for Percy Harvin, and compare the two:
Age: Harvin nearing 25 at time of trade; Diggs just turned 26 - slight value edge to Harvin, mostly even
Contract: Harvin was going into the last year of a contract and demanding a new deal; Diggs is signed for the next 4 seasons (and not top 10 WR money) - edge in value for Diggs Production: Harvin gained 967 yards in his best year and the trade occurred after his worst Viking season; Diggs is coming off consecutive +1,000 yard seasons and 2019 was his best - huge edge to DiggsInjury: Harvin had numerous issues and in 2 of his first 4 seasons, only played 8 games (including the year before his trade); Diggs has had a few dings but played 14 or 15 games each of the last 3 years - huge edge to DiggsAttitude: Harvin was a constant mess, and Vikings management probably knew he was headed in the path he followed to career destruction; Diggs complains sometimes because the wants the ball more - huge edge to Diggs
Oh, and to top it off, Diggs was the centerpiece of the most celebrated Vikings moment of the past decade and probably the best-known player on the team.
Diggs isn't going anywhere unless there are about 3 first round picks coming our way.
Soooo all those cryptic tweets, and now Stefon Diggs has deleted all his football/Vikings related pics..... yikes pic.twitter.com/9dPVauGetA — NFL Outsiders (@nfloutsiders) February 18, 2020
Report: Vikings looking to move on from Stefon Diggs this yearOn Tuesday, Fox Sports’ Colin Cowherd said on his radio show that, “Minnesota is looking to move off (Diggs) for the right pick,” and the receiver is, “unhappy,” with the Vikings.
https://thevikingage.com/2020/02/18/report-minnesota-vikings-looking-move-diggs/
Does Cowherd saying something make it more unlikely?
Looked at twitter only to see Diggs trending and posts about him deleting Instagram Vikings content. Ugh. Time for a break. See ya next season.
Diggs is a diva. Talented. But a diva nonetheless. Personally I think he's jealous of Thielen or anyone else who gets the spotlight.
Too many good receivers in the draft and free agency.
@"BarrNone55" said: Does Cowherd saying something make it more unlikely?
Lol, I think it does! B) That & $9 million in dead money that would have to be eaten...
@"BarrNone55" said: Does Cowherd saying something make it more unlikely?Don't know but he does have some sources and gets some things right. And some wrong.
*IF* Diggs does want a trade, there are probably lots of reasons why.
But if the reason is the typical WR gripe ("give me the d*mn ball"), that's interesting considering we have a new offensive coordinator this season. You'd think he'd give it a chance with the new guy but maybe he's just ready to get off the merry go round of OCs.
It sucks if he's forcing his way out, and I'll be really bummed. But I honestly can't blame him if he just wants some stability. If I got a new boss at my job every year it'd get old fast.
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