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Could The Vikings Trade Diggs This Offseason?

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https://thevikingage.com/2020/02/06/could-minnesota-vikings-trade-diggs/quote

30th in pass attempts
$58 million of a ~$200 million cap tied up in Cousins, Thielen, and Diggs

Remembering back to the days of Robert Ferguson and Bobby Wade, I'm not crazy about moving a talented but obvious diva, but man, how can you make a strong case for keeping him?  Especially in light of his desire to be gone?

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#1 · Feb 6, 10:13 AM
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I doubt they move Diggs this off-season unless they get a team to significantly overpay. Which I suppose is possible. In a trade his deal would be an incredible value for another team at around $12M per year. It would have to be far more than a 1st rounder to even start a conversation. The dead money doesn't make sense for the Vikings either. They save $5M in 2020 but the draft picks acquired would whittle that down quite a bit. So consider the money a wash. 

Diggs is a little misunderstood and not all of his "outbursts" are negative. Although they may seem like it. This also is very different than Percy Harvin. 

Good media fodder but its probably something to revisit in 2021 when they'd save more against the cap. Diggs also doesn't have a ton of options being under contract for 5 more seasons. 

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@"Geoff Nichols" said: Diggs is a little misunderstood and not all of his "outbursts" are negative. Although they may seem like it. This also is very different than Percy Harvin. 


Was listening to someone in the Minnesota media talk about Diggs' speculated "unhappiness."  He said that while the fans and media seem to talk a lot about it, whenever he brings it up with someone within the organization they look at him like he has three heads. 

Would the Vikings listen if someone offered the moon? I'm sure they would, but I don't think this trade chatter is being driven by either Diggs or the Vikings. 

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@"MaroonBells" said:
@"Geoff Nichols" said: Diggs is a little misunderstood and not all of his "outbursts" are negative. Although they may seem like it. This also is very different than Percy Harvin. 


Was listening to someone in the Minnesota media talk about Diggs' speculated "unhappiness."  He said that while the fans and media seem to talk a lot about it, whenever he brings it up with someone within the organization they look at him like he has three heads. 

Would the Vikings listen if someone offered the moon? I'm sure they would, but I don't think this trade chatter is being driven by either Diggs or the Vikings. 



I'd argue that Diggs probably doesn't help but constantly leading people on. But its more for his own enjoyment than dissatisfaction with the Vikings. He is a guy that runs really hot and cold though so it makes it tough to really know if he's serious or joking.  

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The organization did fine him $200K for missing mandatory meetings and two practices. So, I think there is something there.

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Business is business
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I'm wondering how his teammates feel about his constant passive aggressive tweets? Or the front office? Anyone think this is somehow beneficial for the team? 

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Does anybody remember the Moss trade? That whole argument of addition by subtraction?

Yeah, great idea. Let's get rid of a great player because he sometimes does very minor, completely legal things that the media blows out of proportion.

Good players can be divas. He's a young dude. His life doesn't revolve around the betterment of the Vikings organization. I think some of the shit he does is stupid too, but what's equally stupid is trying to trade him away.

Our receiving corps sucks... minus two amazing WRs in Diggs and Thielen. 

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#48 · Feb 10, 12:27 AM
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People don’t appreciate things until they’re gone...
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Now, I'm not 100% fluent in Twitter speak, but it looks like he's praying to be back in the Maryland area. 

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@"BarrNone55" said: I'm wondering how his teammates feel about his constant passive aggressive tweets? Or the front office? Anyone think this is somehow beneficial for the team? 
Every single team in every single League has a player who over-tweets. You consistently make way more out of this than Players do. It's honestly a generational thing. I recruit millennials and it took me a long time to realize that they're completely comfortable living their entire lives online. And they're just fine with the overly dramatic poster. It's almost a trope or cliche that they have someone filling that role in their 'groupthink' pods.
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@"FSUVike" said:
@"BarrNone55" said: I'm wondering how his teammates feel about his constant passive aggressive tweets? Or the front office? Anyone think this is somehow beneficial for the team? 
Every single team in every single League has a player who over-tweets. You consistently make way more out of this than Players do. It's honestly a generational thing. I recruit millennials and it took me a long time to realize that they're completely comfortable living their entire lives online. And they're just fine with the overly dramatic poster. It's almost a trope or cliche that they have someone filling that role in their 'groupthink' pods.
I agree with everything you say here. But.....I still think Diggs would like out of Minnesota. 
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@"StickyBun" said:
@"FSUVike" said:
@"BarrNone55" said: I'm wondering how his teammates feel about his constant passive aggressive tweets? Or the front office? Anyone think this is somehow beneficial for the team? 
Every single team in every single League has a player who over-tweets. You consistently make way more out of this than Players do. It's honestly a generational thing. I recruit millennials and it took me a long time to realize that they're completely comfortable living their entire lives online. And they're just fine with the overly dramatic poster. It's almost a trope or cliche that they have someone filling that role in their 'groupthink' pods.
I agree with everything you say here. But.....I still think Diggs would like out of Minnesota. 
we've heard from those with "inside" sources say that Diggs has asked out of Minnesota for better endorsement opportunities among other things.  I dont think he has acted/tweeted like a player that is happy with his location.   He could have shut down that rhetoric right away last fall but he let it roll for a week or two and continues to let it fester with his cryptic tweets.  If he was happy in Minny and wanted to stay in Minny,  he would just come out and say as much every time somebody asks him,  but he doesnt.
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@"mblack" said: Khalil, Elf and Bradburry... all OL first round picks and only one of them have worked out (so far). Yeah let's trade a known and proven player and get picks... create a need at WR. Then use the two picks (we may get) to draft an OL player and hope he works out and also use the "other" pick to draft another WR to hopefully fill the void created by trading Diggs. Arent we a few years removed from trying to find WR 3? Let's start all over after all Bisi can become WR 2
Only one of them worked out (so far) not because they were bad picks but because of injuries. Kalil was very good his first 1.5 years. Was a pro bowler and all rookie team in year one. Then he had the knee injury which caused the hip to overcompensate and ultimately needed surgery. Elf also all rookie team and quite good that first year until injuries derailed him. So I dont think you can use those as an example of why not to draft line early. 
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https://thevikingage.com/2020/02/10/trade-minnesota-vikings-diggs-landing-afc-north/

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@"StickyBun" said:
@"FSUVike" said:
@"BarrNone55" said: I'm wondering how his teammates feel about his constant passive aggressive tweets? Or the front office? Anyone think this is somehow beneficial for the team? 
Every single team in every single League has a player who over-tweets. You consistently make way more out of this than Players do. It's honestly a generational thing. I recruit millennials and it took me a long time to realize that they're completely comfortable living their entire lives online. And they're just fine with the overly dramatic poster. It's almost a trope or cliche that they have someone filling that role in their 'groupthink' pods.
I agree with everything you say here. But.....I still think Diggs would like out of Minnesota. 
He can want out but at the end of the day he really can't do much about it. Everyone wants to play for their home team. That also doesn't mean he dislikes it in MN.
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Diggs is full of himself. That's a good thing. He's smart enough to realize his career is short and ticking away. I suspect he feels like he could get better stats and more money elsewhere. In effect he is wasting away in Minnesota. That may be the genesis of his cryptic tweets. He doesn't seem to complain much when confronted face to face though.
Given his contract, I doubt he goes anywhere unless a team wants to make a ridiculous offer for him.

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Was listening to a Vikings podcast on my commute. Apparently, the "business is business" tweet was part of a thread about Darius Slay. I would imagine, like the rest of us, there's more to his life than his job.

Is it possible that a team will see his talent v. contract as a steal and make the Vikings an offer they can't refuse. Yes, but it would have to be an emormous offer for the Vikings to bite. First of all, it saves the Vikings only $5M. You can find that much in the couch cushions. So it's not about savings. Second, the dead cap that the Vikings would immediately swallow is $9M, meaning the Vikings would be paying $9M for Diggs to play for someone else. 

If there's one thing you can say about this team it's that they like to operate as financial efficient as possible. Dead money is a pariah to Rick and Rob. ...and for what it's worth, this is also why restructuring rather than releasing players like Reiff and Rhodes is very possible. 

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@"MaroonBells" said: Was listening to a Vikings podcast on my commute. Apparently, the "business is business" tweet was part of a thread about Darius Slay. I would imagine, like the rest of us, there's more to his life than his job.

Is it possible that a team will see his talent v. contract as a steal and make the Vikings an offer they can't refuse. Yes, but it would have to be an emormous offer for the Vikings to bite. First of all, it saves the Vikings only $5M. You can find that much in the couch cushions. So it's not about savings. Second, the dead cap that the Vikings would immediately swallow is $9M, meaning the Vikings would be paying $9M for Diggs to play for someone else. 

If there's one thing you can say about this team it's that they like to operate as financial efficient as possible. Dead money is a pariah to Rick and Rob. ...and for what it's worth, this is also why restructuring rather than releasing players like Reiff and Rhodes is very possible. 


MB, please tell me where to find a couch like that. Finding 5 million dollars in the couch cushions would be awesome!  ;)

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@"Magnus" said:
@"MaroonBells" said: Was listening to a Vikings podcast on my commute. Apparently, the "business is business" tweet was part of a thread about Darius Slay. I would imagine, like the rest of us, there's more to his life than his job.

Is it possible that a team will see his talent v. contract as a steal and make the Vikings an offer they can't refuse. Yes, but it would have to be an emormous offer for the Vikings to bite. First of all, it saves the Vikings only $5M. You can find that much in the couch cushions. So it's not about savings. Second, the dead cap that the Vikings would immediately swallow is $9M, meaning the Vikings would be paying $9M for Diggs to play for someone else. 

If there's one thing you can say about this team it's that they like to operate as financial efficient as possible. Dead money is a pariah to Rick and Rob. ...and for what it's worth, this is also why restructuring rather than releasing players like Reiff and Rhodes is very possible. 


MB, please tell me where to find a couch like that. Finding 5 million dollars in the couch cushions would be awesome!  ;)


Well, it's an awfully big couch. 

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