Cousins is not the answer

@"Caactorvike" said: Thielen post game:  you have to be able to hit receivers.  you have to be able to throw the deep ball. lockerroom trouble brewing.

@"1VikesFan" said:

@"Caactorvike" said: Thielen post game:  you have to be able to hit receivers.  you have to be able to throw the deep ball. lockerroom trouble brewing.

I am sure the receivers are extremely frustrated, especially Thielen.  He has been totally under utilized so far this season, inexcusably so.

Wonder if the coaching staff, or the gameplan, hits a wall trying to get through to Cousins weekly...

I cant imagine he'll be benched over bad performances. But sometimes its not hard to picture his body language and demeanor going so south midgame that it becomes embarrassing to keep him out there. I feel like he's "right there" sometimes...

@"pattersaur" said:

I'm torn.

Cousins played like crap but so did practically everyone on offense besides Dalvin. So I'm not putting this entire loss on Kirk.
That said, I definitely think we need to draft a QB this year. And it's very much up for debate whether you want the current regime making that selection. I want to see more this season before I slam the "fire everyone" button, but man losing all these big games is getting old.

This...Well said!!!

Only thing I'll add is I am really beginning to doubt this team in general in big games under Zimmer...I like Mike too, so it's doubly painful for me as a fan. 

@"1VikesFan" said:

@"Caactorvike" said: Thielen post game:  you have to be able to hit receivers.  you have to be able to throw the deep ball. lockerroom trouble brewing.

I am sure the receivers are extremely frustrated, especially Thielen.  He has been totally under utilized so far this season, inexcusably so.

Cousins is one problem.  The OL was just as bad or worse.  Draft a QB early in 2020, and try for LT too so our next appointed savior doesn't get pounded into jelly.

@"mblack" said:

@"1VikesFan" said:

@"Caactorvike" said: Thielen post game:  you have to be able to hit receivers.  you have to be able to throw the deep ball. lockerroom trouble brewing.

I am sure the receivers are extremely frustrated, especially Thielen.  He has been totally under utilized so far this season, inexcusably so.

Yeah! But but... the same receivers were raving during training camp and preseason how the new offense was "lit" and they were giving the defense feats. So was it the defences that was slow or were they just doing lip service?

@"SFVikeFan" said:

@"mblack" said:

@"1VikesFan" said:

@"Caactorvike" said: Thielen post game:  you have to be able to hit receivers.  you have to be able to throw the deep ball. lockerroom trouble brewing.

I am sure the receivers are extremely frustrated, especially Thielen.  He has been totally under utilized so far this season, inexcusably so.

Yeah! But but... the same receivers were raving during training camp and preseason how the new offense was "lit" and they were giving the defense feats. So was it the defences that was slow or were they just doing lip service?

Clean pocket, no hitting the QB in training camp. 

@"SFVikingFan" said:

@"SFVikeFan" said:

@"mblack" said:

@"1VikesFan" said:

@"Caactorvike" said: Thielen post game:  you have to be able to hit receivers.  you have to be able to throw the deep ball. lockerroom trouble brewing.

I am sure the receivers are extremely frustrated, especially Thielen.  He has been totally under utilized so far this season, inexcusably so.

Yeah! But but... the same receivers were raving during training camp and preseason how the new offense was "lit" and they were giving the defense feats. So was it the defences that was slow or were they just doing lip service?

Clean pocket, no hitting the QB in training camp. 

This. I think Kirk can be a really good QB, it’s just that he seems to fold under even the slightest bit of pressure.  It really sucks that we are stuck with him for another year and once again, the QB cupboard behind him is completely bare.

Cousins is shell shocked...it was apparent the first series...

Well.... I hear mannion does the things in practice very well that mean something to this coaching staff....might as well let the fans see what that actually means.  

Why let this oline kill just one QB?

The lack of focus on double teaming Mack,  the lack of focus on tempo,  yesterday was another complete shit show and that is hardly all on cousins.  For every post on wanting better from the QB there should be one on the OL as well as the play calling.

And let's not even bring up our vaunted defense.  What a ficking joke that was.  They couldn't get off the field and certainly cant blame the Ol for that issue yesterday.

It's time to blow this bitch up.  Trade deadline is coming and everything must go.  Or hire a new GM now and let him decide who stays and who goes...either way get the process started and not limp through the season to a mediocre draft pick.  Play for a top 10 pick and trade pieces to add more.

@"JimmyinSD" said:

The lack of focus on double teaming Mack,  the lack of focus on tempo,  yesterday was another complete shot show and that is hardly all on cousins.  For every post on wanting better from the QB there should be one on the OL as well as the play calling.

And let's not even bring up our vaunted defense.  What a ficking joke that was.  They couldn't get off the field and certainly cant blame the Ol for that issue yesterday.

I know the team is enamored with Dalvin but that's not gonna be there every game.  There's no disgrace in Plan B or C.   Why wait to the 4th quarter to go no huddle and institute a quick passing game?  Gash and gas the Bears for a few series and frustrate their pass rush.  Then Cook might find some gaps.

Our D-line's lack of penetration up the gut against a very mortal and immobile QB was exasperating. I swear if I hear how many "pressures" we had yesterday I'm gonna lose it!

@"FSUVike" said: I'll put a bow on this for everyone. Kirk has turned into Wade Wilson. That hard fake in the 2nd Quarter, where he rolls right and has not one fucking defender within 7 yards, and checks it down to CJ for what, 3 yards?

The line had a wall like I've never seen. A big C-shaped wall with Chicago completely boxed out. Kirk had half of the field to himself and he fucking threw a 3 yard pass to Ham, who was tackled immediately. 

I'll be a Viking until I die. The Vikings losing isn't going to drive me away from the NFL but I'll tell you what might:

Fucking penalty, after penalty, after penalty, after penalty, after penalty, after penalty, after penalty, after penalty, after penalty.......................

Both teams, not just against the Vikings. Watching a complete game is getting unbearable. 

The NFL will probably sense that it is too much and tell their referees to back off, especially after Tom Brady complained. And to me, that's the problem. The refs can easily control the flow of a game and the NFL knows it. All they have to do is say "Let 'em play"  like the do in the playoffs. 

Let the players play. Call the obvious fouls. 

I can't count the number of times, just this year, that a good play has had me shout "YES" just to be deflated with a yellow fucking flag. Most of the time it's a ticky-tack bullshit call that completely changes momentum.