Already mentioned in other threads, but...

I don't really knock Stephanskis play call.  Yes the Vikings had been running the ball down the packs throat, so what do you think the Packers defense was looking for ?  My guess would be another run.  That play was all on Cousins.  Its first down, if its not there throw the ball into the 10th row.  Like Leber said Monday morning it was a gottcha play expecting the packers to stack the box to stop the run.

They boot legged Cousins 4-5 times and Gaybay was there each time. Dumb

40-49 yard FG is 76% chance to make league wide in 2018.

Am I mistaken, wasn't the PAT blocked? I swear we had a kick blocked...

@"BlackMagic7" said: Am I mistaken, wasn't the PAT blocked? I swear we had a kick blocked...

Yup...it was.  Baily was 1/2 on FG attempts.

@"Still Hurtn" said: They boot legged Cousins 4-5 times and Gaybay was there each time. Dumb

Yeah, I don't know whos assignment it was to cover the GB player, but Cousins had some end or LB on him each time.  Fix it or lose the play.

I have no problem AT ALL with Stefanski's play call on 1st and goal. It was a boneheaded, rookie ass throw by Cousins. Just stupid. Its 1st down.....throw it away......you cannot do what he did. 

I thought Stefanski called a good game. The players in our passing game failed to execute.

The one exception is I'd still like to see more dump-offs to the RBs. But it's a work in progress.
There is a lot of blame to go around after that loss. It was one of the more frustrating games in awhile. Really hope we bounce back big against Oakland this week (I think we will!).

I agree it was a bad playcall, but I bet Stephanski didn't coach up KC to "just randomly chuck it near a receiver" if the play isn't working.  Bad play call, but the execution of the play by our QB ruined it.  The pick was on KC.

I think the Vikes need to resign Vedvick to remind Baily how to kick again.  Man he sucked.

@"medaille" said: 40-49 yard FG is 76% chance to make league wide in 2018.

OMG...  The play call was fine...  everyone would be bitching about Stefanski (or more likely Zimmer) if we ran it 3 times and then passed on 4th down and didn't score.

The narrative would be we're too predictable and GB knew we were going to run it or some shit.

It was a terrible decision by Kirk Cousins plain and simple.

If you want to complain about lost points, how about the 4 we lost on a BS pass interference call that took away Diggs TD right before half?

For better or worse, Cousins is our quarterback for the rest of the season.  So we all might as well ride it out and hope for the best.  Nothing will happen until the season is over.  Whether it's Spielman, Zimmer, Cousins or the entire franchise is cut, we won't know until season's end.

@"Wetlander" said: OMG...  The play call was fine...  everyone would be bitching about Stefanski (or more likely Zimmer) if we ran it 3 times and then passed on 4th down and didn't score.

The narrative would be we're too predictable and GB knew we were going to run it or some shit.

It was a terrible decision by Kirk Cousins plain and simple.

If you want to complain about lost points, how about the 4 we lost on a BS pass interference call that took away Diggs TD right before half?

@"ArizonaViking" said: For better or worse, Cousins is our quarterback for the rest of the season.  So we all might as well ride it out and hope for the best.  Nothing will happen until the season is over.  Whether it's Spielman, Zimmer, Cousins or the entire franchise is cut, we won't know until season's end.

I don't trust Cousins after Sunday's game. A few throws were so god awful harebrained, he should be embarrassed. Inexcusable IMO.

Kirk so far this 2nd year here has only proven he can win when he throws 10 times or less. He's not digressing is he?
It's got to get better...doesn't it?

@"suncoastvike" said: Kirk so far this 2nd year here has only proven he can win when he throws 10 times or less. He's not digressing is he? It's got to get better...doesn't it?

There is one argument to make that he just won't be good this year and that's the new offense. Cousins mentioned several times in camp that it was a challenge learning a new system. If that is still a problem and continues to be, then his problems could continue. 

But it's not likely. Remember, there were games last year where this guy just couldn't miss. 400 yard games, 4 TD games, games where his accuracy was dead on. I expect there will be a few games like that this year, too. 

@"MaroonBells" said:

@"suncoastvike" said: Kirk so far this 2nd year here has only proven he can win when he throws 10 times or less. He's not digressing is he? It's got to get better...doesn't it?

It will get a lot better. In fact, I'm guessing that his owner in my fantasy league is going to drop him tonight and I'll get a pretty good QB2 for $0 FAAB. :-)

There is one argument to make that he just won't be good this year and that's the new offense. Cousins mentioned several times in camp that it was a challenge learning a new system. If that is still a problem and continues to be, then his problems could continue. 

But it's not likely. Remember, there were games last year where this guy just couldn't miss. 400 yard games, 4 TD games, games where his accuracy was dead on. I expect there will be a few games like that this year, too. 

@"JimmyinSD" said:

@"MaroonBells" said:

@"suncoastvike" said: Kirk so far this 2nd year here has only proven he can win when he throws 10 times or less. He's not digressing is he? It's got to get better...doesn't it?

It will get a lot better. In fact, I'm guessing that his owner in my fantasy league is going to drop him tonight and I'll get a pretty good QB2 for $0 FAAB. :-)

There is one argument to make that he just won't be good this year and that's the new offense. Cousins mentioned several times in camp that it was a challenge learning a new system. If that is still a problem and continues to be, then his problems could continue. 

But it's not likely. Remember, there were games last year where this guy just couldn't miss. 400 yard games, 4 TD games, games where his accuracy was dead on. I expect there will be a few games like that this year, too. 

Kirks endzone pick may have sealed the teams fate on sunday,  but the loss was hardly on him alone.  plenty of other fingers of blame to be pointed from that shit show.

@"StickyBun" said:

@"JimmyinSD" said:

@"MaroonBells" said:

@"suncoastvike" said: Kirk so far this 2nd year here has only proven he can win when he throws 10 times or less. He's not digressing is he? It's got to get better...doesn't it?

It will get a lot better. In fact, I'm guessing that his owner in my fantasy league is going to drop him tonight and I'll get a pretty good QB2 for $0 FAAB. :-)

There is one argument to make that he just won't be good this year and that's the new offense. Cousins mentioned several times in camp that it was a challenge learning a new system. If that is still a problem and continues to be, then his problems could continue. 

But it's not likely. Remember, there were games last year where this guy just couldn't miss. 400 yard games, 4 TD games, games where his accuracy was dead on. I expect there will be a few games like that this year, too. 

Kirks endzone pick may have sealed the teams fate on sunday,  but the loss was hardly on him alone.  plenty of other fingers of blame to be pointed from that shit show.

Lots of bad things happened, but when it came time to overcome ALL of it, the opportunity was there....twice....and the $84 million dollar man failed miserably. That's the bottom line. Nobody asked him to go 80 yards for the TD in 30 seconds. First and goal with plenty of time and that INT was horrific. 

@"JimmyinSD" said:

@"StickyBun" said:

@"JimmyinSD" said:

@"MaroonBells" said:

@"suncoastvike" said: Kirk so far this 2nd year here has only proven he can win when he throws 10 times or less. He's not digressing is he? It's got to get better...doesn't it?

It will get a lot better. In fact, I'm guessing that his owner in my fantasy league is going to drop him tonight and I'll get a pretty good QB2 for $0 FAAB. :-)

There is one argument to make that he just won't be good this year and that's the new offense. Cousins mentioned several times in camp that it was a challenge learning a new system. If that is still a problem and continues to be, then his problems could continue. 

But it's not likely. Remember, there were games last year where this guy just couldn't miss. 400 yard games, 4 TD games, games where his accuracy was dead on. I expect there will be a few games like that this year, too. 

Kirks endzone pick may have sealed the teams fate on sunday,  but the loss was hardly on him alone.  plenty of other fingers of blame to be pointed from that shit show.

Lots of bad things happened, but when it came time to overcome ALL of it, the opportunity was there....twice....and the $84 million dollar man failed miserably. That's the bottom line. Nobody asked him to go 80 yards for the TD in 30 seconds. First and goal with plenty of time and that INT was horrific. 

i have never understood the logic behind the blame going to the last one to touch something that breaks.  I dont blame a kicker who misses a last second field goal in a game of 3600 seconds any more than the guy who drops a wide open pass in the first quarter.  its a team game and if one player is allowed a trasngression,  then others should be as well regardless of the time on the clock.    scramble the fuck ups and the result is still the same.  we lost a 60 minute team game by 5 points.   hell if Diggs hadnt pushed us back 15 yards after his TD i think we would have went for 2 at that point who knows how that changes things.  if the D hadnt slept through the first quarter, if the kicker hadnt missed once again on a makeable 3 pointer... iffs and butts... its a team game and a team loss.  Cousins shit the bed,  no disputing that,  but he also was the one that dropped a perfect pass into Diggs to help claw back into that shit show.

Team Loss.