Jones released

Hmm not sure we should be giving up valuable O line depth for a slightly less shitty Laquon Treadwell.

@"SFVikingFan" said: Hmm not sure we should be giving up valuable O line depth for a slightly less shitty Laquon Treadwell.

Valuable O-line depth?  Jones never saw the field last year with a even worse O-line than this year.  At least Doctson is a slight improvement over Treadwell.  What could Jones offer?

My guess is Jones comes back after next week with a non-guaranteed contract...

@"ArizonaViking" said:

@"SFVikingFan" said: Hmm not sure we should be giving up valuable O line depth for a slightly less shitty Laquon Treadwell.

Valuable O-line depth?  Jones never saw the field last year with a even worse O-line than this year.  At least Doctson is a slight improvement over Treadwell.  What could Jones offer?

@"ArizonaViking" said:

@"SFVikingFan" said: Hmm not sure we should be giving up valuable O line depth for a slightly less shitty Laquon Treadwell.

Valuable O-line depth?  Jones never saw the field last year with a even worse O-line than this year.  At least Doctson is a slight improvement over Treadwell.  What could Jones offer?

@"SFVikingFan" said:

@"ArizonaViking" said:

@"SFVikingFan" said: Hmm not sure we should be giving up valuable O line depth for a slightly less shitty Laquon Treadwell.

Valuable O-line depth?  Jones never saw the field last year with a even worse O-line than this year.  At least Doctson is a slight improvement over Treadwell.  What could Jones offer?

Like I said, valuable O-line depth.  Besides, my grandmother is a slight improvement over Treadwell.  Whoop-de-doo.

This is where we are now? Bitching about every move the Vikings make?

Real football starts tomorrow, lol. Good thing. Let's keep it moving.

@"StickyBun" said: This is where we are now? Bitching about every move the Vikings make?

Real football starts tomorrow, lol. Good thing. Let's keep it moving.

Yeah, I don't really get what some saw in Brett Jones.  He's a fringe roster guy...  we didn't trade for him last year because he was good.  We made the trade because Elflein wasn't healthy enough to play Week 1 and we were desperate.  The Giants (who had a worse offensive line than us) weren't going to keep him so he was available.

I'm surprised he actually made the initial 53 this year to be honest.

@"Wetlander" said:

@"StickyBun" said: This is where we are now? Bitching about every move the Vikings make?

Real football starts tomorrow, lol. Good thing. Let's keep it moving.

Yeah, I don't really get what some saw in Brett Jones.  He's a fringe roster guy...  we didn't trade for him last year because he was good.  We made the trade because Elflein wasn't healthy enough to play Week 1 and we were desperate.  The Giants (who had a worse offensive line than us) weren't going to keep him so he was available.

I'm surprised he actually made the initial 53 this year to be honest.

@"SFVikingFan" said:

@"ArizonaViking" said:

@"SFVikingFan" said: Hmm not sure we should be giving up valuable O line depth for a slightly less shitty Laquon Treadwell.

Valuable O-line depth?  Jones never saw the field last year with a even worse O-line than this year.  At least Doctson is a slight improvement over Treadwell.  What could Jones offer?

Like I said, valuable O-line depth.  Besides, my grandmother is a slight improvement over Treadwell.  Whoop-de-doo.

@"JimmyinSD" said:

in fairness ive heard he was our highest rated OL by pff this preseason..... for what ever thats worth.

It was also a really small sample size...  AND he was going against 2nd and 3rd stringers.  He should be playing well against those types of players.

@"Wetlander" said:

@"JimmyinSD" said:

in fairness ive heard he was our highest rated OL by pff this preseason..... for what ever thats worth.

It was also a really small sample size...  AND he was going against 2nd and 3rd stringers.  He should be playing well against those types of players.

Last year we needed a center until Elflein got back...Jones was the best of the worst at that time.

i do not like using a starting OG as our backup center....  why weaken 2 positions if one players goes down,  and we always hear about the chemistry aspect,  we now have 4 players affected instead of 3.   I would have preferred they look at the 4 running backs or 27 DTs for likely cuts to make the room for Docson.

@"JimmyinSD" said: i do not like using a starting OG as our backup center....  why weaken 2 positions if one players goes down,  and we always hear about the chemistry aspect,  we now have 4 players affected instead of 3.   I would have preferred they look at the 4 running backs or 27 DTs for likely cuts to make the room for Docson.

I figured Watts would be released and moved to the practice squad first, to open the spot on the active roster for Doctson.

@"ArizonaViking" said:

@"JimmyinSD" said: i do not like using a starting OG as our backup center....  why weaken 2 positions if one players goes down,  and we always hear about the chemistry aspect,  we now have 4 players affected instead of 3.   I would have preferred they look at the 4 running backs or 27 DTs for likely cuts to make the room for Docson.

I figured Watts would be released and moved to the practice squad first, to open the spot on the active roster for Doctson.

@"StickyBun" said: This is where we are now? Bitching about every move the Vikings make?

Real football starts tomorrow, lol. Good thing. Let's keep it moving.

I don't know about EVERY move (although I suppose it might seem like it at times), but I'm not sold on this one.  Jones was good depth at OL.  If- somehow- he's still available when one of our interior OL gets hurt: great!  We can go sign him back to the team.  But if not, then who fills in if one of our interior OL gets hurt?  Samia isn't ready.  I don't think Dozier is either (even though I think he has more experience, I'm not sure he's any good).  And if Bradbury gets hurt, then we have to move Elf back to Center... and we'll get weaker at 2 positions.  At least with Jones on the team, we'd only get weaker at 1 position.  Unless, of course, they would STILL move Elf there anyway... in which case: yes, Jones was expendable.  But then we should have better depth at OG.

@"JimmyinSD" said:

@"Wetlander" said:

@"StickyBun" said: This is where we are now? Bitching about every move the Vikings make?

Real football starts tomorrow, lol. Good thing. Let's keep it moving.

Yeah, I don't really get what some saw in Brett Jones.  He's a fringe roster guy...  we didn't trade for him last year because he was good.  We made the trade because Elflein wasn't healthy enough to play Week 1 and we were desperate.  The Giants (who had a worse offensive line than us) weren't going to keep him so he was available.

I'm surprised he actually made the initial 53 this year to be honest.

in fairness ive heard he was our highest rated OL by pff this preseason..... for what ever thats worth.

@"greediron" said:

@"JimmyinSD" said:

@"Wetlander" said:

@"StickyBun" said: This is where we are now? Bitching about every move the Vikings make?

Real football starts tomorrow, lol. Good thing. Let's keep it moving.

Yeah, I don't really get what some saw in Brett Jones.  He's a fringe roster guy...  we didn't trade for him last year because he was good.  We made the trade because Elflein wasn't healthy enough to play Week 1 and we were desperate.  The Giants (who had a worse offensive line than us) weren't going to keep him so he was available.

I'm surprised he actually made the initial 53 this year to be honest.

in fairness ive heard he was our highest rated OL by pff this preseason..... for what ever thats worth.

not much, if it is against the 3s.  ;)

I agree that keeping a dozen DTs, most of whom have shown next to nothing in real games, at the expense of O-Line depth is a headscratcher.

Several thoughts:
1. Jaleel Johnson and Jalyn Holmes haven't shown Zimmer enough and he feels he needs Hercules and Watts as insurance. And doesn't care about O-Line depth.

2. In the Coaching Staff's view Edison is close enough to Jones production-wise and isn't costing the team a roster spot or the same level of cap hit.

3. Dakota Dozier is ready to step in at LG and Stefanski, Kubiak and Dennison feel like that's their best 5 if Bradbury goes down.

4. They already sent Garrett to Siberia for some Rocky 5 style training and have determined that he's unbreakable.

I think #1 is the most likely followed closely by #3. Not ruling out #4 after what I saw Bradbury do against Dextet Lawrence and Christian Wilkins, though.