OT: GOT in 2 days the wait is almost over

@"suncoastvike" said: I do agree that this season feels rushed. It like after last night there's simply to much mess to clean up in one final episode. There should have been 8 instead of 6 maybe. At least one more. Something like last nights episode then followed by one set up decompression episode then the grand finale. I'm not understanding why today.  It does feel a bit rushed to get out.

I don't think it's rushed, what I see is a difference of writing style between GRRM and D&D. If these two created a serious without GRRM's foundation, I think it'd do well. This is about managing expectations. I like this season... but it is garbage comparatively. These guys were painting into a corner and they did their best.

If we get one more nude scene from Emilia Clarke, this'll all be worth it. She's perfect. 

@"KingBash" said:

@"suncoastvike" said: I do agree that this season feels rushed. It like after last night there's simply to much mess to clean up in one final episode. There should have been 8 instead of 6 maybe. At least one more. Something like last nights episode then followed by one set up decompression episode then the grand finale. I'm not understanding why today.  It does feel a bit rushed to get out.

I'm not sure I blame the writers as much as others do. They got thrust into a role they probably didn't deserve.

I don't think it's rushed, what I see is a difference of writing style between GRRM and D&D. If these two created a serious without GRRM's foundation, I think it'd do well. This is about managing expectations. I like this season... but it is garbage comparatively. These guys were painting into a corner and they did their best.

If we get one more nude scene from Emilia Clarke, this'll all be worth it. She's perfect. 

@"suncoastvike" said:

@"KingBash" said:

@"suncoastvike" said: I do agree that this season feels rushed. It like after last night there's simply to much mess to clean up in one final episode. There should have been 8 instead of 6 maybe. At least one more. Something like last nights episode then followed by one set up decompression episode then the grand finale. I'm not understanding why today.  It does feel a bit rushed to get out.

I'm not sure I blame the writers as much as others do. They got thrust into a role they probably didn't deserve.

I don't think it's rushed, what I see is a difference of writing style between GRRM and D&D. If these two created a serious without GRRM's foundation, I think it'd do well. This is about managing expectations. I like this season... but it is garbage comparatively. These guys were painting into a corner and they did their best.

If we get one more nude scene from Emilia Clarke, this'll all be worth it. She's perfect. 

Yeah it's me. I'm one to talk. As a late joiner who powered through 8 seasons in 2 months I want THEM to tap the brakes...lol. My agenda is showing. 
As long as were admitting GoT girl crushes. Emilia is something. Her character though doesn't fit my taste. Give me a small town country girl. If it all goes terribly wrong and Jon dies. I hope he ends up in that cave in some Valhalla like dreamscape with Ygritte. I sure miss that fiery little wildling. Her death was my personal saddest GoT moment. Flashback rarity be damned. Make it happen.
That's my kinda girl. 

Oops... me confess too much.

@"KingBash" said:

@"suncoastvike" said:

@"KingBash" said:

@"suncoastvike" said: I do agree that this season feels rushed. It like after last night there's simply to much mess to clean up in one final episode. There should have been 8 instead of 6 maybe. At least one more. Something like last nights episode then followed by one set up decompression episode then the grand finale. I'm not understanding why today.  It does feel a bit rushed to get out.

I'm not sure I blame the writers as much as others do. They got thrust into a role they probably didn't deserve.

I don't think it's rushed, what I see is a difference of writing style between GRRM and D&D. If these two created a serious without GRRM's foundation, I think it'd do well. This is about managing expectations. I like this season... but it is garbage comparatively. These guys were painting into a corner and they did their best.

If we get one more nude scene from Emilia Clarke, this'll all be worth it. She's perfect. 

Yeah it's me. I'm one to talk. As a late joiner who powered through 8 seasons in 2 months I want THEM to tap the brakes...lol. My agenda is showing. 
As long as were admitting GoT girl crushes. Emilia is something. Her character though doesn't fit my taste. Give me a small town country girl. If it all goes terribly wrong and Jon dies. I hope he ends up in that cave in some Valhalla like dreamscape with Ygritte. I sure miss that fiery little wildling. Her death was my personal saddest GoT moment. Flashback rarity be damned. Make it happen.
That's my kinda girl. 

Oops... me confess too much.

You do know that's Jon Snow's (Kit Harrington's) real wife, right? Apparently he thinks like you. They met on set and the rest is history.

@"KingBash" said:

@"suncoastvike" said:

@"KingBash" said:

@"suncoastvike" said: I do agree that this season feels rushed. It like after last night there's simply to much mess to clean up in one final episode. There should have been 8 instead of 6 maybe. At least one more. Something like last nights episode then followed by one set up decompression episode then the grand finale. I'm not understanding why today.  It does feel a bit rushed to get out.

I'm not sure I blame the writers as much as others do. They got thrust into a role they probably didn't deserve.

I don't think it's rushed, what I see is a difference of writing style between GRRM and D&D. If these two created a serious without GRRM's foundation, I think it'd do well. This is about managing expectations. I like this season... but it is garbage comparatively. These guys were painting into a corner and they did their best.

If we get one more nude scene from Emilia Clarke, this'll all be worth it. She's perfect. 

Yeah it's me. I'm one to talk. As a late joiner who powered through 8 seasons in 2 months I want THEM to tap the brakes...lol. My agenda is showing. 
As long as were admitting GoT girl crushes. Emilia is something. Her character though doesn't fit my taste. Give me a small town country girl. If it all goes terribly wrong and Jon dies. I hope he ends up in that cave in some Valhalla like dreamscape with Ygritte. I sure miss that fiery little wildling. Her death was my personal saddest GoT moment. Flashback rarity be damned. Make it happen.
That's my kinda girl. 

Oops... me confess too much.

You do know that's Jon Snow's (Kit Harrington's) real wife, right? Apparently he thinks like you. They met on set and the rest is history.

@"purplefaithful" said:

@"KingBash" said:

@"suncoastvike" said:

@"KingBash" said:

@"suncoastvike" said: I do agree that this season feels rushed. It like after last night there's simply to much mess to clean up in one final episode. There should have been 8 instead of 6 maybe. At least one more. Something like last nights episode then followed by one set up decompression episode then the grand finale. I'm not understanding why today.  It does feel a bit rushed to get out.

I'm not sure I blame the writers as much as others do. They got thrust into a role they probably didn't deserve.

I don't think it's rushed, what I see is a difference of writing style between GRRM and D&D. If these two created a serious without GRRM's foundation, I think it'd do well. This is about managing expectations. I like this season... but it is garbage comparatively. These guys were painting into a corner and they did their best.

If we get one more nude scene from Emilia Clarke, this'll all be worth it. She's perfect. 

Yeah it's me. I'm one to talk. As a late joiner who powered through 8 seasons in 2 months I want THEM to tap the brakes...lol. My agenda is showing. 
As long as were admitting GoT girl crushes. Emilia is something. Her character though doesn't fit my taste. Give me a small town country girl. If it all goes terribly wrong and Jon dies. I hope he ends up in that cave in some Valhalla like dreamscape with Ygritte. I sure miss that fiery little wildling. Her death was my personal saddest GoT moment. Flashback rarity be damned. Make it happen.
That's my kinda girl. 

Oops... me confess too much.

You do know that's Jon Snow's (Kit Harrington's) real wife, right? Apparently he thinks like you. They met on set and the rest is history.

Love me a pretty ginger...Ygrette was awesome.

As disappointing as S8 has been in ways, I'm still looking forward to the finale - but sad it's ending too. 

Im sure the ending will get torn to threads by the masses, but Im pretty satisfied.

There are a few things that I think dont mix or I would have wanted it different, but I feel like I understand how things were done and am good with it.

To me it just feels like it whimpered out,  maybe that is what was intended but I felt there should have been something more. 

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It was a good ending in my eyes. All the characters were given roles which suits them. Things could have been tweeked here or there but I'm not a writer so the main point is roles filled lives to be lived future is bright.

Bran...ok so my least favorite got the leadership role. Then it hit me. Quiet emotionless deep thinker. That's leadership I could get behind. Good choice. He will lead by council made up of a decent range of thinking. The blue collar the reader the lifelong soldier the clever...ect. 

Arya sails off to be a drifter and adventurer. Who'da guessed that???

Sansa I'm sure will never be happy. In a traditional happiness way. I kind of feel for her. However she will rule the north well. In a Elisabian never marry stoic way. That's my guess. She really looked the part.

Gray Worm...what can you say about that tribe? They are going to live happy ever after on a island with that level of PTSD? Island sounds like a good place for them. What sad lives. Go in peace.

So about Jon. He's to be punished for doing the right thing??? Gray Worm insisted on it. Bran the thinker one step ahead. Send him back to the wall. Take the oath. He shall never marry or father children. That good enough for ya Worm? ...lol. Jokes on you cockless. King of wildlings. They don't view traditional marriage and raise their children communally. Not that the oath stopped him before. Did you see the way the women and girls flocked to him like moths to a flame. He shall not grow old and lonely.

Sad it's over. Season 8 was not great by GoT standards but still very good by entertainment in general standards. I'm pleased.

Bron will make a good king...

6 episodes were far too few to tell the story, which with GoT was always as delicious as the outcome. 

I'm satisfied, not blown-away. 

I'll probably write more later, but I wonder if anyone else would agree with this thought: they could've ended the show / series with the scene of the melted throne.  Yes, it would leave alot of questions unanswered... but is that worse than giving bad answers? 

Everyone fought, died, betrayed, sacrificed principles, etc... for the seat of power.  And, in the end: no one got it: showing how vain that pursuit was.  It would've been a thoughtful / philosophical ending.  But, alas: we get Bran as the King.  Blech.

@"pumpf" said: Everyone fought, died, betrayed, sacrificed principles, etc... for the seat of power.  And, in the end: no one got it: showing how vain that pursuit was. 

At best, it was OK.
Big complaint: nothing really INTERESTING/SHOCKING occurred. Or, put it another way: of all the many possible theories that people put forward - most based on bread crumbs left by earlier episodes - did ANY of them come through? "Dany is actually a dragon herself": Nope. "There are other dragons which will appear": Nope. "Jon will ride Drogon since he's a Targaryen": Nope. "Varys had secretly contacted others about Dany or had something setup by taking off his rings": Nope. "Tyrion has been acting in the interests of the Lannister family all along": Nope. "Tyrion is a secret Targaryen": Nope. "Tyrion's request to Davos to smuggle something will be important": Nope.
Most of these were "fan theories" and almost all were going to be wrong, but shouldn't SOMETHING have been a revelation? This series sold a lot of "theory lottery tickets" - shouldn't there be at least one or a few winners?
Second big gripe: Jon kills Dany, Drogon burns the throne and carries Dany away (all of that without witnesses), and then...a few weeks have passed and we see nothing of what occurred between? What did Jon do after Drogon left? Walk out and surrender himself? (Otherwise, how did anyone even know he killed her?) Did he try to claim leadership and get rejected? Did none of his own men try to keep him from imprisonment? If Grey Worm was so vengeful, why was his response about Jon essentially, "Let's imprison you while I invite a dozen of your family/friends/allies and ask them what to do"??
Jon: For its entire run, GoT has hinted at the idea that Jon is a Targaryan prince, and that the revelation of his true heritage would be meaningful and have dramatic effects on Westeros. But now it is verified...and he goes back to the same place where bastards go? And if Grey Worm and his Unsullied are leaving Westeros for Naath, who cares if they want Jon banished??
Bran: everything about the past Three-Eyed Raven, and his own actions since taking that role, suggest ZERO interest in political leadership, but even if you put that aside - why would he get elected/chosen? Most people wouldn't even believe what he claims to have become, and I have to think those lords would want someone with a little more battle experience than sitting in a chair as bait for the Night King. Others would assume Bran is a puppet for Sansa. "Good story"? If you pick the king on that basis (and why would these people actually take the suggestion of prisoner Tyrion?), isn't Tyrion's story at least as good as Bran's? Isn't Sansa's? ISN'T JON'S STORY THE BEST OF ALL AND THE CORE OF THE ENTIRE EPIC??

Really feels like the writers just chose the simplest "resolution" for a story that had many complex and interesting plotlines.

Making Jon Snow king at the end was my personal choice, but it was also the most obvious imho. 

Bran was a more interesting plot twist. 

But it's over now, will be interesting to see the spinoff's and GRR is still wrapping-up B6 before finishing 7. More tales to tell from the true lord of the story. 

The producers/directors deserve an applause for 7.25 seasons of historical excellence. 

@"purplefaithful" said: The producers/directors deserve an applause for 7.25 seasons of historical excellence. 

@"pumpf" said: I'll probably write more later, but I wonder if anyone else would agree with this thought: they could've ended the show / series with the scene of the melted throne.  Yes, it would leave alot of questions unanswered... but is that worse than giving bad answers? 

Everyone fought, died, betrayed, sacrificed principles, etc... for the seat of power.  And, in the end: no one got it: showing how vain that pursuit was.  It would've been a thoughtful / philosophical ending.  But, alas: we get Bran as the King.  Blech.

Benioff and Weiss have been on their own since I believe S4 or S5...

Would not surprise me if they knew how GRR was going to end the story in his last book and before Spring.

Perhaps Bran is not only great for pooping, but rules the 6 kingdoms in GRR's version too?

Will be interesting to see how the two compare. 

I've not talked to one person that watched GoT that liked the last season.

@"purplefaithful" said: Benioff and Weiss have been on their own since I believe S4 or S5...

Would not surprise me if they knew how GRR was going to end the story in his last book and before Spring.

Perhaps Bran is not only great for pooping, but rules the 6 kingdoms in GRR's version too?

Will be interesting to see how the two compare.