Well now we need a back up RB

I have always found it funny that folks who get their undies in a bundle about someone smoking a Marlboro (and God forbid around a child!) or vaping have no issue with someone smoking weed.  But it's just like alcohol, right? ;)
https://www.drugabuse.gov/publications/research-reports/marijuana/what-are-marijuanas-effects-lung-health

@"BrickVike" said:

@"Geoff Nichols" said: It's kind of funny how the media filters out a few key pieces of information. 

1) Roc Thomas also had over $15K of cash in the apartment along with a handgun 
2) Holton Hill was also there when they issued the warrant and searched the apartment (although he has not been charged) 

any idea if Hill is in the NFL drug program?  He had an issue coming out of college which is why he went undrafted.  If he is in the program, I believe he can get tested at any time 

Creates a buzz
kills brain cells
harmful to vital organs especially if abused.

Alcohol and Weed are pretty similar based in science and common sense 

@"Geoff Nichols" said: It's kind of funny how the media filters out a few key pieces of information. 

1) Roc Thomas also had over $15K of cash in the apartment along with a handgun 
2) Holton Hill was also there when they issued the warrant and searched the apartment (although he has not been charged) 

Perhaps the team needs to pump the brakes a bit on a Waynes trade after all....Geez, all we heard all season long about Hill was what a reformed guy he was...right....

....Okay, might be assumption city on my part, given that Hill hasn’t been charged, but if the team isn’t concerned a bit about this info then they are smokin’ somethin’ too...

@"BrickVike" said:

@"Geoff Nichols" said: It's kind of funny how the media filters out a few key pieces of information. 

1) Roc Thomas also had over $15K of cash in the apartment along with a handgun 
2) Holton Hill was also there when they issued the warrant and searched the apartment (although he has not been charged) 

any idea if Hill is in the NFL drug program?  He had an issue coming out of college which is why he went undrafted.  If he is in the program, I believe he can get tested at any time 

So David Irving just quit the NFL while on indefinite suspension for smoking weed.  He announced his retirement on Instagram while smoking weed.

But here's the part that makes you think: he said Trainers routinely give Players a litany of drug names that all sounded like Opioids and other harmful and/or addicting stuff as a matter of course and Irving found it hypocritical that the NFL quietly condones one and not the other.

Marcus Spears was on ESPN saying he was given a harmful drug by the medical staff for years when he played. He also said about half the Locker Room smoked pot to relieve the mental stress of the game itself but also the mental stress of contracts and protecting your body from what the team wants to do to it.

Made me think about the Doctor from Any Given Sunday. I bet there's a lot happening behind the scenes in most locker rooms regarding teams pressuring players to do things to get healthy, stay healthy, get stronger, etc.

If Hill was at the apartment you can bet he wasnt there to talk to Roc about what is going to happen if he get s caught.  If it is true he was there, then it looks like the vikes will be without a DB for the first 4 games as well.  I can't imagine he won't be tested ASAP.

Isn't Hill currently under a drug counseling program?  Either within the league or the Viking Organization?

Still don't get it. Are some assuming he was dealing? If he had only the weed it doesn't mean he was. He if he had only the cash and the guns it certainly doesn't. Put all 3 together it means more? Could just be a stupid image thing that I can't understand.
He screwed up. It will cost him. Now Hill is in this mess too. We have enough going on without speculating it's even more nefarious.

If weed is so harmless, why can't these guys stop smoking it?  Not meant to be snarky; genuine question.  

@"holmanjp" said:

@"pumpf" said:

@"Purplewhizz" said:

@"purplefaithful" said: What a dumb asz...

According to reports, law enforcement officers executed a search warrant at his apartment on Jan. 16 and found multiple glass jars containing marijuana and marijuana wax. The jars contained more than three times the amount of marijuana needed for a felony charge. The jars were found in the living room and bedroom of the apartment.Thomas could be facing up to five years in prison. Even if he is acquitted or pleads guilty to lesser charges, the NFL disciplinary rules regarding controlled substances could lead to a suspension for Thomas. That suspension would stay with Thomas if the Vikings released him and he joined another team.

Officers were led to search the apartment after the building’s manager reportedly received complaints about the smell of marijuana coming from his apartment. Thomas reportedly told officers that he knew of the complaints.

He doesn’t sound too bright, does he?  If he knew about neighbors complaining, you’d think he’d have maybe cracked a window or something.  Sounds like they were smoking tons of the stuff.  

Your last comment is the answer to your initial question.

They found 5 ounces, $500 worth of weed.

Now MN tax payers can dish out how much for is room and board for 5 years in prison.
He would/could have earned 3-5 mill over next 5 years. How much is that, in lost State income taxes alone???

All over a plant that grows in the wild.

One less person that might bump into someone while walking to 7-11 for more Cheetos.
The side walks are now safe.

@"Purple Haze" said: If Hill was at the apartment you can bet he wasnt there to talk to Roc about what is going to happen if he get s caught.  If it is true he was there, then it looks like the vikes will be without a DB for the first 4 games as well.  I can't imagine he won't be tested ASAP.

It's 100% true, he's listed on the formal police report. 

@"pumpf" said: If weed is so harmless, why can't these guys stop smoking it?  Not meant to be snarky; genuine question.  

Mental health issues?  There's a reason neither of them were drafted, and perhaps teams did thorough background checks.

@"pumpf" said: I know it's not a popular take (like that matters), but I don't think we've fully realized the long-term impact that smoking weed has on people.  That's why I favor keeping it illegal.  We already know SOME of the negative side effects.  And, thanks to all kinds of supporters, we also know the positive effects (as a pain killer, among other things).  I guess- for me- one of the reasons for keeping it illegal is demonstrated in this episode: a guy was willing to put his lucrative career in jeopardy... over this?  It makes me think that there must be some kind of addictive dynamic in place (whether it be chemical or mental), such that he would willingly risk losing his job over it.  To me... that only makes sense when an addiction is involved. 

Of course, people can become addicted to alot of things; that- in and of itself- is not a reason to make it illegal.  But it should- at least- give us pause. 

Pumpf makes a good point.  Flauting the contract show that he put need above caution.  And that may point to a problem.  Or it could just be a talented young athlete who has always been given special consideration becuse of that talent and now that entitlement has become just assumed.  Either way, not good for long term sucess.

But i also agree, for what its worth, that losing a career over this is way too harsh.  I dont smoke or use or even drink ( I know, boring,huh?) so I  have no dog in the fight but I hope the league uses common sense.

@"suncoastvike" said: Still don't get it. Are some assuming he was dealing? If he had only the weed it doesn't mean he was. He if he had only the cash and the guns it certainly doesn't. Put all 3 together it means more? Could just be a stupid image thing that I can't understand. He screwed up. It will cost him. Now Hill is in this mess too. We have enough going on without speculating it's even more nefarious.

Actually the weed in itself wether he was dealing or not will get him a felony because according to the law if you are in possesion of more than 1 oz its no longer just simple possesion, the charge then becomes possesion with intent to deliver whether that was the intention or not.  Then throw in the gun and it becomes possesion of a fire arm while commiting a felony.  I know that used to bring a mandatory 5 years.  The cash really meaningless other than it is just additional proof that his intent was to deliver.  This guy is screwed.  Maybe he and the dumbass from the Cowboys that just told the NFL to F- Off so he could smoke weed share an apartment in the future because neither of them will ever see another dime from playing football.

@"Caactorvike" said:

@"pumpf" said: I know it's not a popular take (like that matters), but I don't think we've fully realized the long-term impact that smoking weed has on people.  That's why I favor keeping it illegal.  We already know SOME of the negative side effects.  And, thanks to all kinds of supporters, we also know the positive effects (as a pain killer, among other things).  I guess- for me- one of the reasons for keeping it illegal is demonstrated in this episode: a guy was willing to put his lucrative career in jeopardy... over this?  It makes me think that there must be some kind of addictive dynamic in place (whether it be chemical or mental), such that he would willingly risk losing his job over it.  To me... that only makes sense when an addiction is involved. 

Of course, people can become addicted to alot of things; that- in and of itself- is not a reason to make it illegal.  But it should- at least- give us pause. 

Pumpf makes a good point.  Flauting the contract show that he put need above caution.  And that may point to a problem.  Or it could just be a talented young athlete who has always been given special consideration becuse of that talent and now that entitlement has become just assumed.  Either way, not good for long term sucess.

But i also agree, for what its worth, that losing a career over this is way too harsh.  I dont smoke or use or even drink ( I know, boring,huh?) so I  have no dog in the fight but I hope the league uses common sense.

@"Geoff Nichols" said: It's kind of funny how the media filters out a few key pieces of information. 

1) Roc Thomas also had over $15K of cash in the apartment along with a handgun 
2) Holton Hill was also there when they issued the warrant and searched the apartment (although he has not been charged) 

Probably because #1 is an insinuation of a connection between the three that the media should not be making. I'm sure several of us have cash and handguns in our homes. 

@"MaroonBells" said:

@"Geoff Nichols" said: It's kind of funny how the media filters out a few key pieces of information. 

1) Roc Thomas also had over $15K of cash in the apartment along with a handgun 
2) Holton Hill was also there when they issued the warrant and searched the apartment (although he has not been charged) 

Probably because #1 is an insinuation of a connection between the three that the media should not be making. I'm sure several of us have cash and handguns in our homes. 

@"Purple Haze" said:

@"suncoastvike" said: Still don't get it. Are some assuming he was dealing? If he had only the weed it doesn't mean he was. He if he had only the cash and the guns it certainly doesn't. Put all 3 together it means more? Could just be a stupid image thing that I can't understand. He screwed up. It will cost him. Now Hill is in this mess too. We have enough going on without speculating it's even more nefarious.

Actually the weed in itself wether he was dealing or not will get him a felony because according to the law if you are in possesion of more than 1 oz its no longer just simple possesion, the charge then becomes possesion with intent to deliver whether that was the intention or not.  Then throw in the gun and it becomes possesion of a fire arm while commiting a felony.  I know that used to bring a mandatory 5 years.  The cash really meaningless other than it is just additional proof that his intent was to deliver.  This guy is screwed.  Maybe he and the dumbass from the Cowboys that just told the NFL to F- Off so he could smoke weed share an apartment in the future because neither of them will ever see another dime from playing football.

@"Geoff Nichols" said:

@"MaroonBells" said:

@"Geoff Nichols" said: It's kind of funny how the media filters out a few key pieces of information. 

1) Roc Thomas also had over $15K of cash in the apartment along with a handgun 
2) Holton Hill was also there when they issued the warrant and searched the apartment (although he has not been charged) 

Probably because #1 is an insinuation of a connection between the three that the media should not be making. I'm sure several of us have cash and handguns in our homes. 

You'd have to think if the police confiscated the cash & weapon it would be more than an insinuation though, right?