Well now we need a back up RB

@"1VikesFan" said: I really believe pot should be legalized.  The problem I have with limiting the amount a person can have is, why treat it different than alcohol?  As far as I know there is no law that says I can't have 50 cases of beer in in my basement why should they limit how much pot I have? 

Also, I completely agree with Barr, alcohol is much more lethal than pot will ever be. 

As far as corporate rules, if you want to work for a certain company you have to abide by their rules.  If I get tested positive for pot, I'm fired, just the way it is where I work.  Even if pot gets legalized they aren't going to change the company policy. 

That is my point. Why how much he had is even irrelevant. At least on proving intent. If you had 5 kegs of beer and several cases of wine or liquor does that mean you are intending to illegally sell it? No might mean your stocking up for a big party. I doubt this guy was selling this just as much as I doubt it was all for his personal use. He made enough money to be so generous. Well maybe not NOW... but maybe he thought he did.
I also don't want to hear that we don't need to allow more things harmful to people to become legalized. I don't think politicians are the best judges of what is or isn't in our best interest. Not after they took millions to help tobacco hush their little secret. Lets people make their own bad choices if that's what makes them happy. Maybe them politicians should stick to worrying about covering up their own bad choices and stay the hell out of ours.

@"holmanjp" said:

@"pumpf" said:

@"Purplewhizz" said:

@"purplefaithful" said: What a dumb asz...

According to reports, law enforcement officers executed a search warrant at his apartment on Jan. 16 and found multiple glass jars containing marijuana and marijuana wax. The jars contained more than three times the amount of marijuana needed for a felony charge. The jars were found in the living room and bedroom of the apartment.Thomas could be facing up to five years in prison. Even if he is acquitted or pleads guilty to lesser charges, the NFL disciplinary rules regarding controlled substances could lead to a suspension for Thomas. That suspension would stay with Thomas if the Vikings released him and he joined another team.

Officers were led to search the apartment after the building’s manager reportedly received complaints about the smell of marijuana coming from his apartment. Thomas reportedly told officers that he knew of the complaints.

He doesn’t sound too bright, does he?  If he knew about neighbors complaining, you’d think he’d have maybe cracked a window or something.  Sounds like they were smoking tons of the stuff.  

Your last comment is the answer to your initial question.

They found 5 ounces, $500 worth of weed.

Now MN tax payers can dish out how much for is room and board for 5 years in prison.
He would/could have earned 3-5 mill over next 5 years. How much is that, in lost State income taxes alone???

All over a plant that grows in the wild.

One less person that might bump into someone while walking to 7-11 for more Cheetos.
The side walks are now safe.

@"Kentis" said:

@"holmanjp" said:

@"pumpf" said:

@"Purplewhizz" said:

@"purplefaithful" said: What a dumb asz...

According to reports, law enforcement officers executed a search warrant at his apartment on Jan. 16 and found multiple glass jars containing marijuana and marijuana wax. The jars contained more than three times the amount of marijuana needed for a felony charge. The jars were found in the living room and bedroom of the apartment.Thomas could be facing up to five years in prison. Even if he is acquitted or pleads guilty to lesser charges, the NFL disciplinary rules regarding controlled substances could lead to a suspension for Thomas. That suspension would stay with Thomas if the Vikings released him and he joined another team.

Officers were led to search the apartment after the building’s manager reportedly received complaints about the smell of marijuana coming from his apartment. Thomas reportedly told officers that he knew of the complaints.

He doesn’t sound too bright, does he?  If he knew about neighbors complaining, you’d think he’d have maybe cracked a window or something.  Sounds like they were smoking tons of the stuff.  

Your last comment is the answer to your initial question.

They found 5 ounces, $500 worth of weed.

Now MN tax payers can dish out how much for is room and board for 5 years in prison.
He would/could have earned 3-5 mill over next 5 years. How much is that, in lost State income taxes alone???

All over a plant that grows in the wild.

One less person that might bump into someone while walking to 7-11 for more Cheetos.
The side walks are now safe.

Whoa, your’e rolling w/ the 70’s pricing on those oz’s...  ;) B)  

I was thinking it was like half of that amount for one myself? outside of legal states anyways...

It's the only explanation for an NFL player selling it; they have to be making enough cash on the side to make having that much on hand at once worthwhile. They don't need that much on hand to just smoke it... unless maybe he was hella paranoid about... uh... ridin' dirty.

When a player has that much on them, I'd be concerned about teammates getting caught up with him or it. When he can get by using and holding that much pot it's easy to picture other players trying to live a similar, lowkey, pot smoking lifestyle. ...pending discipline and/or suspensions don't care about the moral arguments for it. I don't want other players on our squad getting caught up in that without some kind of changes to the CBA; it's too risky.

@"Kentis" said:

@"holmanjp" said:

@"pumpf" said:

@"Purplewhizz" said:

@"purplefaithful" said: What a dumb asz...

According to reports, law enforcement officers executed a search warrant at his apartment on Jan. 16 and found multiple glass jars containing marijuana and marijuana wax. The jars contained more than three times the amount of marijuana needed for a felony charge. The jars were found in the living room and bedroom of the apartment.Thomas could be facing up to five years in prison. Even if he is acquitted or pleads guilty to lesser charges, the NFL disciplinary rules regarding controlled substances could lead to a suspension for Thomas. That suspension would stay with Thomas if the Vikings released him and he joined another team.

Officers were led to search the apartment after the building’s manager reportedly received complaints about the smell of marijuana coming from his apartment. Thomas reportedly told officers that he knew of the complaints.

He doesn’t sound too bright, does he?  If he knew about neighbors complaining, you’d think he’d have maybe cracked a window or something.  Sounds like they were smoking tons of the stuff.  

Your last comment is the answer to your initial question.

They found 5 ounces, $500 worth of weed.

Now MN tax payers can dish out how much for is room and board for 5 years in prison.
He would/could have earned 3-5 mill over next 5 years. How much is that, in lost State income taxes alone???

All over a plant that grows in the wild.

One less person that might bump into someone while walking to 7-11 for more Cheetos.
The side walks are now safe.

Whoa, your’e rolling w/ the 70’s pricing on those oz’s...  ;) B)  

@pumpf

No, I don't think legalizing marijuana is a good idea, I think it's a great idea. Tax the crap out of it and rebuild our infrastructure, schools, make healthcare truly affordable....making it legal isn't going to introduce a significant number of new users...if any...

@"HappyViking" said:

@"pumpf" said: So... making ANOTHER problematic substance legal... is a good idea?  That'd be like drafting a fast WR with no hands and no route running ability... because we've already done it.  

Do you view beer, wine, and other forms of booze as a problematic substance?  I don't.  I like drinking beers, but that doesn't mean it's taking over my life.

If I wanted to take a hit or two of some weed, I think that should be within my rights too.  I'm in control of what I consume, and I'd prefer not allowing the government decide that booze is "Ok", but weed is "Bad".  It's just stupid, and I think politics has plenty to do with it.

I think stopping weed from being legal has little to do with health and more to do with big corps freaking out. 

Here's an article pointing out those that lobby against legalizing weed the most.

https://internationalhighlife.com/top-5-lobby-groups-legal-cannabis/

@"HappyViking" said: Let’s take a look at some of the biggest industries funding anti-cannabis lobby groups, and the unethical reasons why…

All of that may be true; and it makes (business) sense.  But I'm not relying on any of those industries to form my opinion.  For the most part (for better or worse), I've formed it on my own- apart from emperical data.  Now, that may undercut my argument; but it's the truth.

@"BarrNone55" said: @pumpf

No, I don't think legalizing marijuana is a good idea, I think it's a great idea. Tax the crap out of it and rebuild our infrastructure, schools, make healthcare truly affordable....making it legal isn't going to introduce a significant number of new users...if any...

If you read the information I posted, it responds to that argument: namely, that the amount of money taken in by increased taxes would fall far short of the cost to pay for the social programs needed to provide care for those who abuse the drug.  As for making it legal, that's really only an opinion.  In my opinion, it would.  Using the alcohol argument: if prohibition were still the law of the land, would people be more or less likely to drink?  I, for one, wouldn't risk getting busted with an illegal substance.  But now, with it legal, I've had the same Blue Moon in my fridge for 6 months (I'm not much of a drinker).  I daresay that there are lots of "rule-followers" who would do the same.  But with it being legal (and so easily accessible), LOTS of people "use" alcohol.  Why wouldn't weed by the same: that, once legalized, lots more people would use it?  

@"pumpf" said:

@"HappyViking" said:

@"pumpf" said: So... making ANOTHER problematic substance legal... is a good idea?  That'd be like drafting a fast WR with no hands and no route running ability... because we've already done it.  

Do you view beer, wine, and other forms of booze as a problematic substance?  I don't.  I like drinking beers, but that doesn't mean it's taking over my life.

If I wanted to take a hit or two of some weed, I think that should be within my rights too.  I'm in control of what I consume, and I'd prefer not allowing the government decide that booze is "Ok", but weed is "Bad".  It's just stupid, and I think politics has plenty to do with it.

I think stopping weed from being legal has little to do with health and more to do with big corps freaking out. 

Here's an article pointing out those that lobby against legalizing weed the most.

https://internationalhighlife.com/top-5-lobby-groups-legal-cannabis/

POTENTIALLY problematic would've been a better way of phrasing it.  Alcohol- in moderation- is (pretty much) harmless.  But in excess, it can be deadly.  I don't know enough about addictions to know if it is easier or harder (or the same) to become addicted to alcohol or to marijuana.  I totally get that legalizing weed is comparable to legalizing alcohol.  But I'm not convinced that "we" have thought through all the negatives that will accompany such legislation (including higher costs for social problems to deal with the excesses).

@pumpf I fail to see how legalizing marijuana would increase any current expenditures on care...it's not like legalization is going to introduce a significant amount of new users...that makes no sense.

@"1VikesFan" said: I really believe pot should be legalized.  The problem I have with limiting the amount a person can have is, why treat it different than alcohol?  As far as I know there is no law that says I can't have 50 cases of beer in in my basement why should they limit how much pot I have? 

I'm sure if it was legalized, there wouldn't be a limit to how much you could have, but you probably wouldn't be allowed to sell it without a license anyway, but regardless it's still illegal for non-medical use.

I wasn't that big of a fan of him anyways. I thought Boone was clearly the better back between the 2. Boone has very good vision and seems natural. Roc Thomas I feel like got more recognition than he deserved off of one play in preseason. Regardless, end the damn war on drugs already.

@"matt4787" said: I wasn't that big of a fan of him anyways. I thought Boone was clearly the better back between the 2. Boone has very good vision and seems natural. Roc Thomas I feel like got more recognition than he deserved off of one play in preseason. Regardless, end the damn war on drugs already.

Can we please stay on topic?  =)

@"BarrNone55" said: @pumpf I fail to see how legalizing marijuana would increase any current expenditures on care...it's not like legalization is going to introduce a significant amount of new users...that makes no sense.

Did you read the article I posted?

I read about five articles today, probably another dozen in the past, and applied common sense. 

One of the most interesting finds was the rise in ER visits due to marijuana overdoses. This was particularly amusing.

I would bet the amount of people smoking weed would not increase much if legalized.  Although it is illegal it is still pretty easy to get and those who want to smoke it do. Adults that would like to smoke it now but don’t because it is illegal or they dont want to lose a good job because of it. Its not like they  are not going to go buy an ounce and a bong and start smoking away just becasue it has been legalized. Especially when they have refrained from it for months or years even though it is wasy to get. It would still be illegal for those under 21 to buy it or use it.  But guess what those under 21 who want to use it now do just that, its not that hard to get.  I hear the argument that there would be more kids experimenting with it if it were lgalized.  But that really cant be true because it would be just as illegal for them to buy and have it if legalized as it is now.  They would still have to find somebody to buy it from illegally.  Those willing to take that chance already do it now. 

It's kind of funny how the media filters out a few key pieces of information. 

1) Roc Thomas also had over $15K of cash in the apartment along with a handgun 
2) Holton Hill was also there when they issued the warrant and searched the apartment (although he has not been charged) 

@"Geoff Nichols" said: It's kind of funny how the media filters out a few key pieces of information. 

1) Roc Thomas also had over $15K of cash in the apartment along with a handgun 
2) Holton Hill was also there when they issued the warrant and searched the apartment (although he has not been charged) 

any idea if Hill is in the NFL drug program?  He had an issue coming out of college which is why he went undrafted.  If he is in the program, I believe he can get tested at any time