Is Tom Brady The Goat?

Well, my dad COULD beat up your dad...

;)

Is it ok to think he's great and still think he's a d*ckwad?
If so count Bill and Tom in.

@"StickyBun" said: Not sure how you can't see Brady as the GOAT, IMO. 6 Superbowl rings. 9 Superbowl appearances. 6-3 record in Superbowls. Its staggering. 

Any time you have a QB who's been running the same offense for a decade and coach who can take a middling defense and shut down offenses just through game planning, good things are going to happen. 

TB12 GOAT? I see it like Jerry Rice. You can't argue with the results, but there were more talented players. 

@"BarrNone55" said:

@"StickyBun" said: Not sure how you can't see Brady as the GOAT, IMO. 6 Superbowl rings. 9 Superbowl appearances. 6-3 record in Superbowls. Its staggering. 

Bradshaw and Montana were both 4-0 and were instrumental in those wins. Versus the Rams, Brady was along for the ride. Each of his SBs were decided by a single score IIRC. He could easily be 0-9.

@"BarrNone55" said:

@"StickyBun" said: Not sure how you can't see Brady as the GOAT, IMO. 6 Superbowl rings. 9 Superbowl appearances. 6-3 record in Superbowls. Its staggering. 

Bradshaw and Montana were both 4-0 and were instrumental in those wins. Versus the Rams, Brady was along for the ride. Each of his SBs were decided by a single score IIRC. He could easily be 0-9.

@"Jor-El" said:

@"BarrNone55" said:

@"StickyBun" said: Not sure how you can't see Brady as the GOAT, IMO. 6 Superbowl rings. 9 Superbowl appearances. 6-3 record in Superbowls. Its staggering. 

Bradshaw and Montana were both 4-0 and were instrumental in those wins. Versus the Rams, Brady was along for the ride. Each of his SBs were decided by a single score IIRC. He could easily be 0-9.

Arguable in Bradshaw's case - 9/14 for 96 yards in SBIX is at least as "along for the ride" as Brady this year. Yes Bradshaw had 1 TD but I think Brady's pass to Gronk was far more important than a 4-yard dump. You could make a pretty good case that Bradshaw was an above-average QB who played with some of the best defensive talent ever.

Starr, Graham, Unitas...

Rice, Moss, Sayers, Brown, Young, Manning...
In the conversation is about all you can agree on.  That and Brady belongs there 9 times more than Rodgers.

Brady is the GOAT of tge NFL. Hes won the most championships. Exactly what other stat do you need to know?  

For a dude that chose to publicly claim that he's (or she's) sitting out 2019, you certainly are posting a lot.....A LOT.

But this one is a doozy. 

I'm assuming you're not truly stupid, so there's only a few explanations for this post.

* You have an incurable disease and want as much attention as possible. OK. Got it. 

* This unamed terminal disease is wreaking havoc on what few brain cells you had to begin with, causing you to say asinine shit. Understood. 

* You are intentionally trying to be an idiot for the hell of it and get multiple replies.

* You simply HATE the Patriots and/or Brady.

* You have been SO conditioned as a Vikings fan, that you are compelled to not only come up with  ridiculous explanations to EXCUSE the Vikings for their current WORST stretch of playoff futility, but you also feel the need to diminish the ACTUAL CHAMPIONSHIPS of other WINNING franchises and players. Your choice of a woefully underachieving player as your monicker indicates that this is the most likely explanation for this asinine post.

There is NO need to discuss who is the Greatest Of All Time in the NFL. I used to think it was a toss up between Jim Brown, Joe Montana, Jerry Rice and Lawrence Taylor.

But 9 Super Bowl appearances and 6 ACTUAL Super Bowl Victories, along with the endless records he's compiled, cements Brady as the best player in NFL history. 

If you insist on focusing on stats, Mike Vrabel is by FAR the most productive receiver in HISTORY. Check out his pass-catching stats. He puts Rice, Moss, Irvin, Gonzalez, Sharpe, etc, to SHAME as far as TD productivity is concerned. 

And this is from someone who was born and raised in the Bronx....it's in my blood to HATE sports teams from Boston. 

But facts are facts. 

Tom Brady is THE greatest of all time, no doubt. 

And I'm afraid that the SOB ain't done yet. 

Your arguments against TB being the greatest are pathetic.....Bart Starr? LMAO! Really? Otto Graham?! WOW!

I hope this topic was started when you were under the influence of heavy meds.

Regardless, at least 90% of fans disagree with you. Kudos for being a 10%er!  

Yeah, I'm posting a lot, because I've got free time...You know, after I lost my job when my company was bought out and my position was eliminated...

@"AGRforever" said: Brady is the GOAT of tge NFL. Hes won the most championships. Exactly what other stat do you need to know?  

@"BarrNone55" said: Yeah, I'm posting a lot, because I've got free time...You know, after I lost my job when my company was bought out and my position was eliminated...

He replied in the thread, he knew what it was about. It was painfully clear I was about to and eventually lost my job.

NJVike is just jealous, he didn't lose his job or suffer some loss or have a medical condition.  His life is to good and now that the vikings aren't losing, he has nothing to bitch about, so he is taking it out on those he is jealous of.  He pines for your misery.
What a tool.  Biggest look at me poster complaining that others are getting attention.  Hypocrite.

Yeah you’re right Barr, Ponder was more athletic than this guy...  ;) 

@"BarrNone55" said:

@"StickyBun" said: Not sure how you can't see Brady as the GOAT, IMO. 6 Superbowl rings. 9 Superbowl appearances. 6-3 record in Superbowls. Its staggering. 

Bradshaw and Montana were both 4-0 and were instrumental in those wins. Versus the Rams, Brady was along for the ride. Each of his SBs were decided by a single score IIRC. He could easily be 0-9.

@"Canthony" said:

@"BarrNone55" said:

@"StickyBun" said: Not sure how you can't see Brady as the GOAT, IMO. 6 Superbowl rings. 9 Superbowl appearances. 6-3 record in Superbowls. Its staggering. 

Bradshaw and Montana were both 4-0 and were instrumental in those wins. Versus the Rams, Brady was along for the ride. Each of his SBs were decided by a single score IIRC. He could easily be 0-9.

But he isn't and he has 6 rings. Brady never had Rice to throw the ball to or Craig to hand the ball off to and had an offense that was just coming into its own that the league was adjusting to it.
Brady is the GOAT and Brees and Manning are close behind him IMO.