Stefanski news
Shooter reporting for tomorrow's Pioneer Press that Stefanski leaving, and that Mularkey atop wish list.
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@"Jor-El" said:have any of the other OC's not give him a reason to grumble? And Norv was a former head coach. So, that line of thinking seems pretty thin. So one OC was struggling and Zim was asked about it for several weeks in a row. Him responding to that growing line of questions is grumbling?@"StickyBun" said: Good to hear about Stefanski, I'm a big fan of continuity. I also believe good players make good coaches. Upgrade that O-line and watch Stefanski flourish. I do think continuity is helpful, and was concerned that a total shift (like power blocking) by another OC would take another year of adjustment. The biggest downside to Stefanski is that Zimmer seems to meddle and question his offensive coordinator UNLESS he's a former HC himself, and then Zimmer has trust. If Stefanski has some bumpy games, Zimmer will grumble, or worse.
@"Jor-El" said:If the O is working Zimmer doesn't say shit, when it's struggling it's his job meddle and speak up. JfC, when Zimmer called out defillippo and the O for not using the run enough he was saying the same damn thing every fan was thinking. I dont get the meddling crazy old man shit about Zim.@"StickyBun" said: Good to hear about Stefanski, I'm a big fan of continuity. I also believe good players make good coaches. Upgrade that O-line and watch Stefanski flourish. I do think continuity is helpful, and was concerned that a total shift (like power blocking) by another OC would take another year of adjustment. The biggest downside to Stefanski is that Zimmer seems to meddle and question his offensive coordinator UNLESS he's a former HC himself, and then Zimmer has trust. If Stefanski has some bumpy games, Zimmer will grumble, or worse.He's to hands off
...he's to hands on
WTF can the guy do to make this fan base happy? Win? Well he's done that more often than not and is working his ass off to get better at it. When this is all done this year..20 coaches didn't make the playoffs and 31 will end their season with a loss.
Really glad things worked out this way. Beef up the OL & it's off to the races.
@"1VikesFan" said: Really glad things worked out this way. Beef up the OL & it's off to the races.I think we need to get a OL coach before beefing it up.
Longevity and continuity ARE generally good things in theory. But Stefanski's time with the Vikings comes during a 14 year run that has produced TWO PLAYOFF WINS. That is a supposed selling point?
YIKES. In 5 years, the same people that are applauding this "move" will be using it as an EXCUSE. Just like Childress, Ponder, Frazier, Walsh, Turner, Bradford, Carlson, DeFilipo, Jackson, etc. When they're here it's a great decision.... a few years after they're gone, memories are magically wiped clean and those players/coaches are villified.
I'm not sure, and I have no intention of wasting my time researching it, but I can't recall a 14 year stretch of such consistent playoff futility in Vikings history. I DO know that during that stretch they've had their LOSINGEST season in their history. So, we got THAT going for us.
Good luck, Stefanski. You're gonna need it with a HC and GM with their nuts to the fire....they BOTH have a well documented history of sacrificing numerous scapegoats in order to save their own ass'. Keep your options open, dude, you might need to relocate in 10 months.
@"njvike" said: Longevity and continuity ARE generally good things in theory. But Stefanski's time with the Vikings comes during a 14 year run that has produced TWO PLAYOFF WINS. That is a supposed selling point?Blah, Blah Blah, Blah, Blah, Blah Blah, Blah Blah, Blah...YIKES. In 5 years, the same people that are applauding this "move" will be using it as an EXCUSE. Just like Childress, Ponder, Frazier, Walsh, Turner, Bradford, Carlson, DeFilipo, Jackson, etc. When they're here it's a great decision.... a few years after they're gone, memories are magically wiped clean and those players/coaches are villified.
I'm not sure, and I have no intention of wasting my time researching it, but I can't recall a 14 year stretch of such consistent playoff futility in Vikings history. I DO know that during that stretch they've had their LOSINGEST season in their history. So, we got THAT going for us.
Good luck, Stefanski. You're gonna need it with a HC and GM with their nuts to the fire....they BOTH have a well documented history of sacrificing numerous scapegoats in order to save their own ass'. Keep your options open, dude, you might need to relocate in 10 months.
Sounds like Zimmer offered the job to KS LAST WEEK...
A day after flying to Cleveland for a second interview with the Browns for their head coaching position, Kevin Stefanski returned to Minnesota to accept the job he missed out on a year ago.
Stefanski will be the Vikings’ permanent offensive coordinator in 2019, the team announced, after the Browns chose offensive coordinator Freddie Kitchens as their next head coach. Vikings coach Mike Zimmer, sources said, had offered the permanent job to Stefanski last week, before his contract expired Tuesday, and Stefanski was waiting to see how things played out between him and the Browns before accepting.
http://www.startribune.com/kevin-stefanski-will-stay-with-vikings-as-offensive-coordinator/504109912/
@"SDCAVIKESFAN" said:Just assumed that was part of the equation.@"1VikesFan" said: Really glad things worked out this way. Beef up the OL & it's off to the races. I think we need to get a OL coach before beefing it up.
@"purplefaithful" said: Sounds like Zimmer offered the job to KS LAST WEEK...A day after flying to Cleveland for a second interview with the Browns for their head coaching position, Kevin Stefanski returned to Minnesota to accept the job he missed out on a year ago.
Stefanski will be the Vikings’ permanent offensive coordinator in 2019, the team announced, after the Browns chose offensive coordinator Freddie Kitchens as their next head coach. Vikings coach Mike Zimmer, sources said, had offered the permanent job to Stefanski last week, before his contract expired Tuesday, and Stefanski was waiting to see how things played out between him and the Browns before accepting.
http://www.startribune.com/kevin-stefanski-will-stay-with-vikings-as-offensive-coordinator/504109912/
The truth is so boring.
@"MaroonBells" said:The truth is so boring.
Nailed it. It's why I didn't get too worked up about all these names floating around with reports of the Vikings having "interest". I'm sure the Vikings called on some, but others are the media trying to draw conclusions on guys who worked together previously, agents putting out smoke to get their client some press (regardless of whether a team called on them or not), etc...
Stefanski was the logical choice. Zimmer knows him well, he's familiar with our players, and is well respected by the team and around the league. Hopefully he'll stick around for a couple years so our offense can get some much needed continuity at QB and OC.
@"Wetlander" said:@"MaroonBells" said:The truth is so boring.
Nailed it. It's why I didn't get too worked up about all these names floating around with reports of the Vikings having "interest". I'm sure the Vikings called on some, but others are the media trying to draw conclusions on guys who worked together previously, agents putting out smoke to get their client some press (regardless of whether a team called on them or not), etc...
Stefanski was the logical choice. Zimmer knows him well, he's familiar with our players, and is well respected by the team and around the league. Hopefully he'll stick around for a couple years so our offense can get some much needed continuity at QB and OC.
I think it's pretty obvious the Vikings were lining up contingencies in case Stef did get a HC offer. Who wouldn't?What bugged me was the bad blood narrative that some in the anti-Zimmer crowd tried to craft.
I'm good with Stef. Not excited; not disappointed. He has some negatives (no track record of success) and some positives (continuity). At the end of the day, I think the positives probably outweigh the negative.
@"Wetlander" said:@"MaroonBells" said:The truth is so boring.
Nailed it. It's why I didn't get too worked up about all these names floating around with reports of the Vikings having "interest". I'm sure the Vikings called on some, but others are the media trying to draw conclusions on guys who worked together previously, agents putting out smoke to get their client some press (regardless of whether a team called on them or not), etc...
Stefanski was the logical choice. Zimmer knows him well, he's familiar with our players, and is well respected by the team and around the league. Hopefully he'll stick around for a couple years so our offense can get some much needed continuity at QB and OC.
I honestly think if he does well and sticks around for 2 or 3 seasons the team is his. I dont think Zimmer is going to coach until he is 70 like some of these guys do. I can see him giving it a good run for a couple more years and walking away at 65 or so regardless of his accomplishments as a HC. He is a driven person, but the lifestyle is definitely wearing on him and he has other interest away from the football field that he could easily want to spend more time with IMO.
@"MaroonBells" said:@"Wetlander" said:@"MaroonBells" said:The truth is so boring.
Nailed it. It's why I didn't get too worked up about all these names floating around with reports of the Vikings having "interest". I'm sure the Vikings called on some, but others are the media trying to draw conclusions on guys who worked together previously, agents putting out smoke to get their client some press (regardless of whether a team called on them or not), etc...
Stefanski was the logical choice. Zimmer knows him well, he's familiar with our players, and is well respected by the team and around the league. Hopefully he'll stick around for a couple years so our offense can get some much needed continuity at QB and OC.
I think it's pretty obvious the Vikings were lining up contingencies in case Stef did get a HC offer. Who wouldn't?What bugged me was the bad blood narrative that some in the anti-Zimmer crowd tried to craft.
I'm good with Stef. Not excited; not disappointed. He has some negatives (no track record of success) and some positives (continuity). At the end of the day, I think the positives probably outweigh the negative.
The big downside to Stef is that he already got a HC interview. If our offense does well, he will likely be gone. Just wish we could string together 2 seasons with the same QB and same OC.
just a thought, but we all assume that the reason Zimmer is a lame duck coach is because he needs to prove more, what if he is a lame duck by choice? maybe he has set his own exit date and that is why his contract hasnt been extended?
@"greediron" said:@"MaroonBells" said:@"Wetlander" said:@"MaroonBells" said:The truth is so boring.
Nailed it. It's why I didn't get too worked up about all these names floating around with reports of the Vikings having "interest". I'm sure the Vikings called on some, but others are the media trying to draw conclusions on guys who worked together previously, agents putting out smoke to get their client some press (regardless of whether a team called on them or not), etc...
Stefanski was the logical choice. Zimmer knows him well, he's familiar with our players, and is well respected by the team and around the league. Hopefully he'll stick around for a couple years so our offense can get some much needed continuity at QB and OC.
I think it's pretty obvious the Vikings were lining up contingencies in case Stef did get a HC offer. Who wouldn't?What bugged me was the bad blood narrative that some in the anti-Zimmer crowd tried to craft.
I'm good with Stef. Not excited; not disappointed. He has some negatives (no track record of success) and some positives (continuity). At the end of the day, I think the positives probably outweigh the negative.
The big downside to Stef is that he already got a HC interview. If our offense does well, he will likely be gone. Just wish we could string together 2 seasons with the same QB and same OC.
Yeah, but most teams are in that boat. I think we're seeing exactly why we held on to Stef. It's possible that the Philbin interest is a guard against Stef leaving next year.
@"JimmyinSD" said:@"Wetlander" said:@"MaroonBells" said:The truth is so boring.
Nailed it. It's why I didn't get too worked up about all these names floating around with reports of the Vikings having "interest". I'm sure the Vikings called on some, but others are the media trying to draw conclusions on guys who worked together previously, agents putting out smoke to get their client some press (regardless of whether a team called on them or not), etc...
Stefanski was the logical choice. Zimmer knows him well, he's familiar with our players, and is well respected by the team and around the league. Hopefully he'll stick around for a couple years so our offense can get some much needed continuity at QB and OC.
I honestly think if he does well and sticks around for 2 or 3 seasons the team is his. I dont think Zimmer is going to coach until he is 70 like some of these guys do. I can see him giving it a good run for a couple more years and walking away at 65 or so regardless of his accomplishments as a HC. He is a driven person, but the lifestyle is definitely wearing on him and he has other interest away from the football field that he could easily want to spend more time with IMO.
Zimmer can retire... right after he wins his 2nd Super Bowl. And not until then.
The downside, though, is that once we win a Super Bowl, we're never going to hear from one of this site's best and brightest minds. I guess you gotta take the good with the bad...
@"JimmyinSD" said:@"greediron" said:No disrespect TBro, but opinions formed from tweets and click whore writers are exactly why I used the word gossip.Glad he didn't move on so we didn't have to hear that line of thought all offseason. Hopefully the continuity (and some new guards) will help cousins and our offense. One thing for certain, Cook should be a prime candidate for a big breakout.
Exactly, to think that anything of substance should be taken from isolated tweets and anonymous sources anymore is just looking to be wrong in the end. Half of these so called beat writers for online "media" have no clue what's really happening and are basically just online versions of charlie walters
Tbro has pretty solid takes. Hell who didnt worry when Stef got the 2nd interview and Mularkey and Koetter went off the market. In hindsight we now know Stef was offereed the job pending his HC opportunity, so now it all makes sense that Mularkey and Koetter granbed the best deal on the tabel. Atlanta has great ownership
Can't wait to see Stefanski feature the running game in general and Cook specifically...the OL coach selection will be huge....can't wait!
@"BarrNone55" said: Can't wait to see Stefanski feature the running game in general and Cook specifically...the OL coach selection will be huge....can't wait!As long as Stef clues in Cousins that even with a running game, he can throw the ball in the first 2 quarters. I (always optimistic) expect a good offense next year, Stefanski having all offseason to implement his offense, Cousins in his second year with the team and coaches and obviously upgrades to our line.
@"BarrNone55" said: Can't wait to see Stefanski feature the running game in general and Cook specifically...the OL coach selection will be huge....can't wait!Sounds great. May as well make Thielen one of the highest paid WRs too because he deserves it. Then, they can have two high paid receivers that can be decoys so they can run more.
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