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Oakland WR Amari Cooper traded to Dallas

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For a 1st round pick. Yuck. Jerrah continues to react poorly. He's not worth that by any stretch. The GM for the Raiders said 'it was too good a deal to pass up'. LMAO, yeah I bet.

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#1 · Oct 22, 1:47 PM
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Yep, was shock the Raiders got a 1 for Cooper.

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#2 · Oct 22, 1:50 PM
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Seems like Dallas really overpaid for Cooper.

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#3 · Oct 22, 2:36 PM
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Fire sale continues in Oaktown.

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#4 · Oct 22, 2:38 PM
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Bad deal for both teams.  Cooper not worth a 1st, Oakland sending a bad message to the team they've thrown in the towel already. 

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#5 · Oct 22, 2:45 PM
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Will Carr be next...?

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#6 · Oct 22, 2:52 PM
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24 year old, former #4 overall pick, two time pro bowler, still on this 1st contract, with serious questions about opportunity the last couple of years (re: Carr). It's hard to argue against the #1. But man, that will likely be a pretty high pick. 

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#7 · Oct 22, 3:09 PM
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Stupid deal for both sides.  I'm skeptical that Gruden even sees year 5-6 of his 10 year deal.  He's already mailing it in his first year.  Much worse deal for the Cowboys unless they already have a deal fleshed out with Cooper.  I just don't see the point in going to get a Cooper, when their problem is Dak.  I imagine that Cooper is just going to want to test the market after his contract expires.

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#8 · Oct 22, 3:29 PM
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Medaille, he is taking the Philly 76ers approach and what the Cleveland Browns have done.  Get has many picks as possible and no matter the skill sooner or later you will have a decent product.  It is a little more difficult with fielding 22 positions but even still I would guess in 3-4 years with a huge amount of cap space they should be able to build something decent. 

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#9 · Oct 22, 3:38 PM
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So which is it? He's stupid for trading Mack,.who's angling for the biggest contract ever given to a Defensive Player. But Defenses are also becoming the wrong side of the ball to invest in according to many here.

But he's also stupid for trading an under-performer for what everyone says was an overpay by Jerruh?

My take, killer Draft coming up.for both D and O ines. Why not load up on 1sts and start rebuilding in the trenches? Need protection so you can see once and for all if Carr is real. And they never had any complimentary pieces with Mack. 

Tank. Build your Lines. Move to Vegas. Take an early buyout once the team starts to turn the corner and needs actual GM and HC production.

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@"SFVikeFan" said: Bad deal for both teams.  Cooper not worth a 1st, Oakland sending a bad message to the team they've thrown in the towel already. 
I think that message was already sent when they got rid of Mack. At this point, if teams want to offer them first round picks for guys, they will (and should) definitely take them. They're burning it down to build it back up in Vegas. Chucky's on a 10 year contract so he's cozy enough to make these moves. Almost any other first year Head Coach wouldn't be able to do these deals but he can I guess. Any players that don't fall in line will be out.

They aren't catching KC or LAC this year and free agents don't want to sign for a team with no stadium. May as well put all their eggs into the draft basket.
This approach will definitely have consequences with their organizational culture, but basing this on where they are today, I think it's a good deal for Oakland.

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@FSU, who are you seeing on the OL? I know the Badgers have a couple guys highly rated, at least early...the DL is a watershed type year...insane amount of talent potentially coming out...

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#12 · Oct 22, 4:11 PM
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Sounds like the Eagles were interested too...but Jerruah paid too much...he's basically locked into giving him $14 million plus for a guy who for whatever reason is regressing...

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Btw, does Oakland have anyone the Vikings should be targeting on the cheap?
Maybe we can pick the bones for some more OL help if Compton is out?

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@"BarrNone55" said: @FSU, who are you seeing on the OL? I know the Badgers have a couple guys highly rated, at least early...the DL is a watershed type year...insane amount of talent potentially coming out...
Just looking at early mocks and seeing a lot of O-Line guys. Makes sense. Nobody saw Price, Ragnow, etc. going that high when you simply cannot definitely say they were better in college than Elf.

Draft pundits and myself are in agreement that O-Linemen and in particular Guards and Centers will continue to go higher than they have historically because of how spotty Line play has been around the League.

But yes, maybe an All Timer for the D-Line.

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Clemson might put 4 DL men in the first...Bosa and Gary...I've never seen so many top notch DL prospects  

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#16 · Oct 22, 4:43 PM
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Dak Prescott is not a franchise QB, the Cowboys are finding that out. He's not going to carry a team, come back from behind and put up many 375+ yard games. Like many mid-tier guys, he can be productive with enough support.

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@"BarrNone55" said: Clemson might put 4 DL men in the first...Bosa and Gary...I've never seen so many top notch DL prospects  
I agree. There’s so many I expect some good players will fall through the scouting cracks. Throughout college football the talent is outstanding.
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@"BarrNone55" said: @FSU, who are you seeing on the OL? I know the Badgers have a couple guys highly rated, at least early...the DL is a watershed type year...insane amount of talent potentially coming out...
Thats good cause we may need a 3t if they can't/don't keep Richardson, Linval is in his 9th year now? And nobody knows what will happen with EG. 
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@"pattersaur" said:
Btw, does Oakland have anyone the Vikings should be targeting on the cheap? Maybe we can pick the bones for some more OL help if Compton is out?
leon hall is their slot corner (hughes out) 33 yo, health issues, but has played well with Zim in Cincy, knows Zim’s scheme. long shot, but good question.
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#20 · Oct 22, 10:14 PM
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Fans sure do love draft picks, lol. Let's see if any of those high picks turn into players. The question I have is: will Derek Carr be a Raider much longer? Read a story where they think its possible that he might end up with the Giants at some point.

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