Oakland WR Amari Cooper traded to Dallas

@"StickyBun" said: Fans sure do love draft picks, lol. Let's see if any of those high picks turn into players. The question I have is: will Derek Carr be a Raider much longer? Read a story where they think its possible that he might end up with the Giants at some point.

Is there a better way to replenish the roster?

@"BarrNone55" said:

@"StickyBun" said: Fans sure do love draft picks, lol. Let's see if any of those high picks turn into players. The question I have is: will Derek Carr be a Raider much longer? Read a story where they think its possible that he might end up with the Giants at some point.

Is there a better way to replenish the roster?

I’m not really a fan of the whole, we’re just going to get
rid of all our good players to try and bring in different good players.  I think a good coach should be able to fit
his scheme around the players he has as he continues to add players that move
toward his desired scheme.  That said I
think there’s a lot to be said about getting team first guys and building your
franchise around guys who are building the right culture.  I don’t really think theres any evidence that
Mack or Cooper were bad apples or anything, other than statements that they
wanted to be paid well, but if they were a bad fit, it’s a good move to get rid
of them early for value than doubling down on them by locking yourself into a
huge contract.

@"StickyBun" said:

@"BarrNone55" said:

@"StickyBun" said: Fans sure do love draft picks, lol. Let's see if any of those high picks turn into players. The question I have is: will Derek Carr be a Raider much longer? Read a story where they think its possible that he might end up with the Giants at some point.

Is there a better way to replenish the roster?

Not trading Khalil Mack is a good start, not sure how you're going to replace that guy as he's a generational talent. The Cooper trade I get for sure, nice get on the compensation. I think Draftniks always feel that picks are the way to go regardless. Drafting WELL seems to be the best option, easier said than done however. Jon Gruden does not draft well, its proven. Giving him more picks will lead to just more bad picks more than likely. The team when they get to Vegas will look differently than now and it will be all Gruden's doing, not Reggie McKenzie.

As always, only time will tell with the Raiders. Unique situation with them moving to Vegas.

@"FSUVike" said:

@"StickyBun" said:

@"BarrNone55" said:

@"StickyBun" said: Fans sure do love draft picks, lol. Let's see if any of those high picks turn into players. The question I have is: will Derek Carr be a Raider much longer? Read a story where they think its possible that he might end up with the Giants at some point.

Is there a better way to replenish the roster?

Not trading Khalil Mack is a good start, not sure how you're going to replace that guy as he's a generational talent. The Cooper trade I get for sure, nice get on the compensation. I think Draftniks always feel that picks are the way to go regardless. Drafting WELL seems to be the best option, easier said than done however. Jon Gruden does not draft well, its proven. Giving him more picks will lead to just more bad picks more than likely. The team when they get to Vegas will look differently than now and it will be all Gruden's doing, not Reggie McKenzie.

As always, only time will tell with the Raiders. Unique situation with them moving to Vegas.

Who cares how good Mack is if the Owners have neutered Defenses as you've been saying for weeks now?

Jerry had to have a “ Big Name “ WR

@"StickyBun" said:

@"FSUVike" said:

@"StickyBun" said:

@"BarrNone55" said:

@"StickyBun" said: Fans sure do love draft picks, lol. Let's see if any of those high picks turn into players. The question I have is: will Derek Carr be a Raider much longer? Read a story where they think its possible that he might end up with the Giants at some point.

Is there a better way to replenish the roster?

Not trading Khalil Mack is a good start, not sure how you're going to replace that guy as he's a generational talent. The Cooper trade I get for sure, nice get on the compensation. I think Draftniks always feel that picks are the way to go regardless. Drafting WELL seems to be the best option, easier said than done however. Jon Gruden does not draft well, its proven. Giving him more picks will lead to just more bad picks more than likely. The team when they get to Vegas will look differently than now and it will be all Gruden's doing, not Reggie McKenzie.

As always, only time will tell with the Raiders. Unique situation with them moving to Vegas.

Who cares how good Mack is if the Owners have neutered Defenses as you've been saying for weeks now?

Like I said, he's a generational talent. They can transcend the new rules. Idiotic trade.

@"FSUVike" said:

@"StickyBun" said:

@"FSUVike" said:

@"StickyBun" said:

@"BarrNone55" said:

@"StickyBun" said: Fans sure do love draft picks, lol. Let's see if any of those high picks turn into players. The question I have is: will Derek Carr be a Raider much longer? Read a story where they think its possible that he might end up with the Giants at some point.

Is there a better way to replenish the roster?

Not trading Khalil Mack is a good start, not sure how you're going to replace that guy as he's a generational talent. The Cooper trade I get for sure, nice get on the compensation. I think Draftniks always feel that picks are the way to go regardless. Drafting WELL seems to be the best option, easier said than done however. Jon Gruden does not draft well, its proven. Giving him more picks will lead to just more bad picks more than likely. The team when they get to Vegas will look differently than now and it will be all Gruden's doing, not Reggie McKenzie.

As always, only time will tell with the Raiders. Unique situation with them moving to Vegas.

Who cares how good Mack is if the Owners have neutered Defenses as you've been saying for weeks now?

Like I said, he's a generational talent. They can transcend the new rules. Idiotic trade.

At what cost? He's looking to become the highest paid non-QB in the League. Could Oakland afford to pay him like that and still field a good enough Offense in this new Era you are predicting is a permanent thing?

@"SFVikeFan" said:

@"FSUVike" said:

@"StickyBun" said:

@"FSUVike" said:

@"StickyBun" said:

@"BarrNone55" said:

@"StickyBun" said: Fans sure do love draft picks, lol. Let's see if any of those high picks turn into players. The question I have is: will Derek Carr be a Raider much longer? Read a story where they think its possible that he might end up with the Giants at some point.

Is there a better way to replenish the roster?

Not trading Khalil Mack is a good start, not sure how you're going to replace that guy as he's a generational talent. The Cooper trade I get for sure, nice get on the compensation. I think Draftniks always feel that picks are the way to go regardless. Drafting WELL seems to be the best option, easier said than done however. Jon Gruden does not draft well, its proven. Giving him more picks will lead to just more bad picks more than likely. The team when they get to Vegas will look differently than now and it will be all Gruden's doing, not Reggie McKenzie.

As always, only time will tell with the Raiders. Unique situation with them moving to Vegas.

Who cares how good Mack is if the Owners have neutered Defenses as you've been saying for weeks now?

Like I said, he's a generational talent. They can transcend the new rules. Idiotic trade.

At what cost? He's looking to become the highest paid non-QB in the League. Could Oakland afford to pay him like that and still field a good enough Offense in this new Era you are predicting is a permanent thing?

Yes, but I suspect the Raiders have cashflow issues.

Danielle Hunter - is he not worth a big contract because rules favor the offense?   Hunter in his entire career:  0 roughing the passer penalties

@"FSUVike" said:

@"StickyBun" said:

@"FSUVike" said:

@"StickyBun" said:

@"BarrNone55" said:

@"StickyBun" said: Fans sure do love draft picks, lol. Let's see if any of those high picks turn into players. The question I have is: will Derek Carr be a Raider much longer? Read a story where they think its possible that he might end up with the Giants at some point.

Is there a better way to replenish the roster?

Not trading Khalil Mack is a good start, not sure how you're going to replace that guy as he's a generational talent. The Cooper trade I get for sure, nice get on the compensation. I think Draftniks always feel that picks are the way to go regardless. Drafting WELL seems to be the best option, easier said than done however. Jon Gruden does not draft well, its proven. Giving him more picks will lead to just more bad picks more than likely. The team when they get to Vegas will look differently than now and it will be all Gruden's doing, not Reggie McKenzie.

As always, only time will tell with the Raiders. Unique situation with them moving to Vegas.

Who cares how good Mack is if the Owners have neutered Defenses as you've been saying for weeks now?

Like I said, he's a generational talent. They can transcend the new rules. Idiotic trade.

At what cost? He's looking to become the highest paid non-QB in the League. Could Oakland afford to pay him like that and still field a good enough Offense in this new Era you are predicting is a permanent thing?

@"StickyBun" said:

@"BarrNone55" said:

@"StickyBun" said: Fans sure do love draft picks, lol. Let's see if any of those high picks turn into players. The question I have is: will Derek Carr be a Raider much longer? Read a story where they think its possible that he might end up with the Giants at some point.

Is there a better way to replenish the roster?

Not trading Khalil Mack is a good start, not sure how you're going to replace that guy as he's a generational talent. The Cooper trade I get for sure, nice get on the compensation. I think Draftniks always feel that picks are the way to go regardless. Drafting WELL seems to be the best option, easier said than done however. Jon Gruden does not draft well, its proven. Giving him more picks will lead to just more bad picks more than likely. The team when they get to Vegas will look differently than now and it will be all Gruden's doing, not Reggie McKenzie.

As always, only time will tell with the Raiders. Unique situation with them moving to Vegas.

I'm saying if Defense is being legislated out of the game and your whole roster stinks why commit such a large contract to that side of the ball?

You could only get away with doing so in Oakland if Carr was still on a Rookie deal.  He's not. And they need O-Linemen, a RB, WRs and a Move TE to field an Offense capable of keeping up in shootouts.

And there's also the Vegas factor. Think their new fans want to see a nasty Defense anchored by Mack and an Offense that looks like it does now when the Raiders get to town? Or a team that can trade scores with the Chiefs? 

@"SFVikeFan" said: Bad deal for both teams.  Cooper not worth a 1st, Oakland sending a bad message to the team they've thrown in the towel already. 

They are 1-5.  The season is over.  IMO this is a huge win for the Raiders.  That 3rd 1st round pick gives them so much flexibility in the upcoming draft.  They are almost assured a top 5 pick so they can package that pick with one of the others and probobly get the #1.  Or stand pat and maybe get Macks replacement in Bosa or Oliver.  They still have the other 1st round pick they could do alot with.  Pick a player they want, package it with other picks and move up, trade it for additional picks outside the first round.  All that being said we are talking about the disfunctional Raiders, so they will probobly screw it up and end up with a few busts.

@"SFVikeFan" said:

@"FSUVike" said:

@"StickyBun" said:

@"FSUVike" said:

@"StickyBun" said:

@"BarrNone55" said:

@"StickyBun" said: Fans sure do love draft picks, lol. Let's see if any of those high picks turn into players. The question I have is: will Derek Carr be a Raider much longer? Read a story where they think its possible that he might end up with the Giants at some point.

Is there a better way to replenish the roster?

Not trading Khalil Mack is a good start, not sure how you're going to replace that guy as he's a generational talent. The Cooper trade I get for sure, nice get on the compensation. I think Draftniks always feel that picks are the way to go regardless. Drafting WELL seems to be the best option, easier said than done however. Jon Gruden does not draft well, its proven. Giving him more picks will lead to just more bad picks more than likely. The team when they get to Vegas will look differently than now and it will be all Gruden's doing, not Reggie McKenzie.

As always, only time will tell with the Raiders. Unique situation with them moving to Vegas.

Who cares how good Mack is if the Owners have neutered Defenses as you've been saying for weeks now?

Like I said, he's a generational talent. They can transcend the new rules. Idiotic trade.

At what cost? He's looking to become the highest paid non-QB in the League. Could Oakland afford to pay him like that and still field a good enough Offense in this new Era you are predicting is a permanent thing?

Yes, but I suspect the Raiders have cashflow issues.

Danielle Hunter - is he not worth a big contract because rules favor the offense?   Hunter in his entire career:  0 roughing the passer penalties