Anyone just shake your head over Bailey's misses?
again I ask, how is Preifer/Zim not getting called into question on these kicking woes? its not just the place kickers, our punters is a shankapotumus as well.
He struggled some last year as well. He hit the one we really needed. That was more then the last guy did.
Lots of misses and ugly kicking around the NFL this season... I mean, Mason Crosby missed 4 FGs and an XP yesterday.... the Browns kicker missed a bunch of kicks and was cut.... The replacement knuckle balled in the game winner today... Chris Boswell has been missing kicks for the Steelers... List goes on and on.
Just a weird year for kicking... I'm hoping Bailey is just a little rusty having sat out for awhile. He bounced back and made a couple kicks after the early misses. I couldn't watch the 50+ yarder at the end... Closed my eyes. Lol
I am like a little kid watching a horror movie when it comes to watching the kicks. I am either peeking through my hands over my eyes or looking away. I am hoping it's residual impact from his injury and he will settle down. I am glad he was able to come back and get the job done.
@"Wetlander" said: Lots of misses and ugly kicking around the NFL this season... I mean, Mason Crosby missed 4 FGs and an XP yesterday.... the Browns kicker missed a bunch of kicks and was cut.... The replacement knuckle balled in the game winner today... Chris Boswell has been missing kicks for the Steelers... List goes on and on.Just a weird year for kicking... I'm hoping Bailey is just a little rusty having sat out for awhile. He bounced back and made a couple kicks after the early misses. I couldn't watch the 50+ yarder at the end... Closed my eyes. Lol
The Browns new kicker, a kid named Greg Joseph, went to FAU down here in Boca Raton, FL where I live. I was at a sports bar for the 1st half of the early games and right next to us at a table were Joseph's Uncle-Aunt-Grandparents. Nice people but it got very quiet when he shanked the extra point. Glad to see he knuckled one over for the win.
I’m not worried about a guy missing kicks or having a bad
game. I’m worried about a guy who doesn’t
have the mental fortitude to be a kicker in the NFL.
I don’t think Priefer is good with kickers, but I don’t
think Priefer has had enough time to screw up Bailey yet. I’m chalking this up to a fluke game. That said, I do think we need to make some
coaching changes this offseason, maybe not getting rid of Priefer entirely, but
getting an assistant coach that works with the kickers.
In the short term, I’d really focus on the fundamentals with
the handful of guys in the punt return role.
Hughes isn’t the guy right now, and I’m not sure it makes sense to
divide his attention away from his CB responsibilities. More than anything we just need a guy who can
make the right decision and not screw anything up back there. I’d consider any positive yardage a bonus at
this point.
Kickers are like closers in baseball. Even the best hang an occasional slider with runners on.
@"JimmyinSD" said: again I ask, how is Preifer/Zim not getting called into question on these kicking woes? its not just the place kickers, our punters is a shankapotumus as well.Neither Zim or Preifer have had enough time to screw up a veteran kicker. Since Zim doesnt think kickers are football players Id say he probably doesnt say much one way or another.
Did the NFL change the kicking ball recently? I’ve noticed the past couple of years the ball gets a weird tail off and it happens to nearly all of the kickers. Mason Crosby is a great kicker as is Bailey. Some of the best seemed to have struggled the past couple of years. I have to wonder if there’s an equipment issue.
@"AGRforever" said:without knowing what he is trying to teach these guys I dont believe anything is out of the question in regards to what he might be doing to even a seasoned vet. Bailey can rest comfortably with the job though... we dont have enough money left to order a pizza let alone try and sign another kicker.@"JimmyinSD" said: again I ask, how is Preifer/Zim not getting called into question on these kicking woes? its not just the place kickers, our punters is a shankapotumus as well. Neither Zim or Preifer have had enough time to screw up a veteran kicker. Since Zim doesnt think kickers are football players Id say he probably doesnt say much one way or another.
@"Wetlander" said: Lots of misses and ugly kicking around the NFL this season... I mean, Mason Crosby missed 4 FGs and an XP yesterday.... the Browns kicker missed a bunch of kicks and was cut.... The replacement knuckle balled in the game winner today... Chris Boswell has been missing kicks for the Steelers... List goes on and on.Just a weird year for kicking... I'm hoping Bailey is just a little rusty having sat out for awhile. He bounced back and made a couple kicks after the early misses. I couldn't watch the 50+ yarder at the end... Closed my eyes. Lol
Great post
im sure Viking Nation all breathed a sigh of relief after that long one went thru...
@"Havoc1649" said: Did the NFL change the kicking ball recently? I’ve noticed the past couple of years the ball gets a weird tail off and it happens to nearly all of the kickers. Mason Crosby is a great kicker as is Bailey. Some of the best seemed to have struggled the past couple of years. I have to wonder if there’s an equipment issue.That on side kick ball sure had some juice on it ! Whew !
It is nerves. Zimmer says Bailey has missed 1 kick in practice. He has missed multiple kicks in games. It's nerves. It's pressure. He has to get back to how he dealt with it before.
I think a lot of it goes back to the decision a few years ago to move the extra point back, a decision I was never a fan of. I think making even the extra points a little challenging has really sapped kickers of the confidence they used to have. They no longer have nearly as many gimme kicks and I think it might be harder for them to get into a rhythm.
That's one reason I was never a fan of the change. Another is who wants to see a great game or an incredible comeback decided on a missed extra point? Extra points used to be almost completely anti-climatic and I was 100% ok with that.
@"dadevike" said: It is nerves. Zimmer says Bailey has missed 1 kick in practice. He has missed multiple kicks in games. It's nerves. It's pressure. He has to get back to how he dealt with it before.
It can't be an easy situation for a kicker, a team that has had 2 young kickers lose their nerve and a head coach who considers kickers a PITA.
@"Jor-El" said:@"dadevike" said: It is nerves. Zimmer says Bailey has missed 1 kick in practice. He has missed multiple kicks in games. It's nerves. It's pressure. He has to get back to how he dealt with it before.It can't be an easy situation for a kicker, a team that has had 2 young kickers lose their nerve and a head coach who considers kickers a PITA.
Agreed. It has to be tough to keep the doubts from creeping into your thoughts as you are about to kick. Whether it is an easy kick that you are expected to make or a long kick that we need to win the game, you need incredible focus.
@"JimmyinSD" said: again I ask, how is Preifer/Zim not getting called into question on these kicking woes? its not just the place kickers, our punters is a shankapotumus as well.Don't know how Zim is responsible, but as of yesterday, I started to wonder about Preifer.
@"greediron" said:he doesnt like kickers so I dont know how hostile he can be towards them or how he handles them at all.... and he is Preifers HC so ultimately the buck stops with him in regards to how his staff is doing.@"JimmyinSD" said: again I ask, how is Preifer/Zim not getting called into question on these kicking woes? its not just the place kickers, our punters is a shankapotumus as well. Don't know how Zim is responsible, but as of yesterday, I started to wonder about Preifer.
I have a lot of trust and confidence in Bailey. His misses were not bad misses. That stuff happens. I think he has just a small adjustment on the one he missed to the right, but the one off the uprights, that wasn't a bad kick. He did what he needed to with the 52 yarder to secure the game. He will be fine, IMO.
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