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CAP Savings - Murray, Wright, BRob?

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Murray:

Murray agreed to cut his salary and stay saving 1.15 million.

"MAR 17 2018Reduced his 2018 salary to $3.65M, per-game bonus to $250,000, and likely incentives to $600,000 clearing $1.15M in cap space with Minnesota (MIN)

Wright:

Cutting Wright saved 2.65 million in CAP space.  Now hearing we might want to bring him back but my thought is that he will probably be able to find another team that will pay him.  Still have no idea why he was in the doghouse the last few years...nothing was ever reported.  He is a slot WR only but not sure who will be the backup in the slot to Theilan now?  

Robison:

His CAP hit for this year is about 3.5 million with 1.25 in dead money so cutting him would save 2.25 million.  I would really like BRob back because I thought he played very well in reduced role last year and Hunter didn't exactly rise to an every down DE.  So one more year of spot duty and development for Hunter would be ideal - IMO.  Is Robison willing to do the Murray thing and save us 1 million?  I hope so.

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#1 · Mar 17, 1:07 PM
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I don't get asking Robison to take a pay cut...  He's making 3.5 million and can still play.  Team leader and great role model for younger players.

It's kind of insulting to ask him to take 1 million less when we just handed out how much money to other players?  Is 1 million really going to make or break us when the cap is 177 million dollars?

Fuck that.  Let the guy play the last year of his deal.  He's been nothing but loyal and took team friendly deals to stay here and try to win us a Championship.  Doesn't that mean anything?

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#2 · Mar 17, 1:22 PM
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@"Wetlander" said: I don't get asking Robison to take a pay cut...  He's making 3.5 million and can still play.  Team leader and great role model for younger players.

It's kind of insulting to ask him to take 1 million less when we just handed out how much money to other players?  Is 1 million really going to make or break us when the cap is 177 million dollars?

Fuck that.  Let the guy play the last year of his deal.  He's been nothing but loyal and took team friendly deals to stay here and try to win us a Championship.  Doesn't that mean anything?


I'm with you on BRob.  

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#3 · Mar 17, 1:30 PM
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No reason to not pay BRob.  Does everything asked of him and does it well.  To cut him and then ask him back for less money would be a dick move...   

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I dont get how it’s so vital for us to go overboard in treating BRob special. i understand he’s been a Viking his whole NFL career. Careers end, and players aren’t entitled to earn more than they’re worth.  If the best talent evaluators on the Vikings deem him expendable on his current salary, they should move on.  Do what’s best for the Vikings.  

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@"Waterboy" said: I dont get how it’s so vital for us to go overboard in treating BRob special. i understand he’s been a Viking his whole NFL career. Careers end, and players aren’t entitled to earn more than they’re worth.  If the best talent evaluators on the Vikings deem him expendable on his current salary, they should move on.  Do what’s best for the Vikings.  
Then why didn't do the same to others who clearly weren't pulling their weight I'm the past.  And if they can't see that BRob is still playing at a top level in limited opportunities then they should seek other employment. The team led the league on 3rd downs last year...Remember who was setting the D for most of those plays?  Here's a hint. ...it wasn't any of our regular 11.

Hey Rick....pay that man his money!

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@"Waterboy" said: I dont get how it’s so vital for us to go overboard in treating BRob special. i understand he’s been a Viking his whole NFL career. Careers end, and players aren’t entitled to earn more than they’re worth.  If the best talent evaluators on the Vikings deem him expendable on his current salary, they should move on.  Do what’s best for the Vikings.  
He is making 3.5 million dollars...  and he restructured his contract last year to make less money on the deal.

I could see if he was making 6 or 7 million...  but it's half that.  He played 500 some snaps for us last season.  I would expect him to get a similar amount this season. 

What's that worth?  Not even factoring in the intangibles he brings to the table...

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He's making the same as Julius Peppers is slated to earn this year (if he doesn't retire) and Peppers was a part time player last season for the Panthers.

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I don’t think the Vikings are picking on him...

Most hear have an emotional attachment that you cannot have in a billion dollar business

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@"Wetlander" said: He's making the same as Julius Peppers is slated to earn this year (if he doesn't retire) and Peppers was a part time player last season for the Panthers.


Peppers is playing on a 1yr, 5m deal this season w/ the Panthers.

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 I agree with "Wetlander." It's not like BRob has even slowed down. Yeah, i get it, everything is about age. Has BRob showed his age? If he has, i haven't seen it!! I realize it's a business, but I'd like to see some loyalty!!

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I can see asking a player to take a pay cut and I was thinking whats the big deal on B Robs part about taking a cut when you only make 3.5 million it cant be that much can it.  But then I looked at it thinking how much cap space can the vikes really clear from a guy only making that much.  I think having him on this team for his leadership alone is worth more than the little cap space his pay cut would clear.  Isnt there a way they could restructure a little from say Everson, Smith or one or all of the higher paid players.  Take a very little form each of them and keep B Rob on the team.

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@"Maple Surple" said: I don’t think the Vikings are picking on him...

Most hear have an emotional attachment that you cannot have in a billion dollar business


As a fan of a team....why wouldn't a person have emotion?  If there is no emotional attachment then what the fucks the point?

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#13 · Mar 17, 7:44 PM
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Has anyone actually asked him to take a paycut or is this all just specukation?

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@"Purplewhizz" said: Has anyone actually asked him to take a paycut or is this all just specukation?
Hasn't Pops been a little irritated the last few days?  I would say it's safe to say that Brian has been given some sort of ultimatum.
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@"RushmoreVike" said:
@"Waterboy" said: I dont get how it’s so vital for us to go overboard in treating BRob special. i understand he’s been a Viking his whole NFL career. Careers end, and players aren’t entitled to earn more than they’re worth.  If the best talent evaluators on the Vikings deem him expendable on his current salary, they should move on.  Do what’s best for the Vikings.  
Then why didn't do the same to others who clearly weren't pulling their weight I'm the past.  And if they can't see that BRob is still playing at a top level in limited opportunities then they should seek other employment. The team led the league on 3rd downs last year...Remember who was setting the D for most of those plays?  Here's a hint. ...it wasn't any of our regular 11.

Hey Rick....pay that man his money!



Hmm, so you are a better evaluator of talent than the guy who put this Super Bowl contending team together.  Ok. 

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When I look at the salary's on spotrac, BRobs salary does not stand out as needing an adjustment.  Actually they all seem pretty fair.  If I was forced to look at someone, it would probably be Ruddy at 7.65 before BRob.  

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@"Waterboy" said:
@"RushmoreVike" said:
@"Waterboy" said: I dont get how it’s so vital for us to go overboard in treating BRob special. i understand he’s been a Viking his whole NFL career. Careers end, and players aren’t entitled to earn more than they’re worth.  If the best talent evaluators on the Vikings deem him expendable on his current salary, they should move on.  Do what’s best for the Vikings.  
Then why didn't do the same to others who clearly weren't pulling their weight I'm the past.  And if they can't see that BRob is still playing at a top level in limited opportunities then they should seek other employment. The team led the league on 3rd downs last year...Remember who was setting the D for most of those plays?  Here's a hint. ...it wasn't any of our regular 11.

Hey Rick....pay that man his money!



Hmm, so you are a better evaluator of talent than the guy who put this Super Bowl contending team together.  Ok. 


A blind man could see that Robison is pulling his weight on D and that his contract is not out of line.  But if you want to be a smart ass...OK

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@"RushmoreVike" said:
@"Waterboy" said:
@"RushmoreVike" said:
@"Waterboy" said: I dont get how it’s so vital for us to go overboard in treating BRob special. i understand he’s been a Viking his whole NFL career. Careers end, and players aren’t entitled to earn more than they’re worth.  If the best talent evaluators on the Vikings deem him expendable on his current salary, they should move on.  Do what’s best for the Vikings.  
Then why didn't do the same to others who clearly weren't pulling their weight I'm the past.  And if they can't see that BRob is still playing at a top level in limited opportunities then they should seek other employment. The team led the league on 3rd downs last year...Remember who was setting the D for most of those plays?  Here's a hint. ...it wasn't any of our regular 11.

Hey Rick....pay that man his money!



Hmm, so you are a better evaluator of talent than the guy who put this Super Bowl contending team together.  Ok. 


A blind man could see that Robison is pulling his weight on D and that his contract is not out of line.  But if you want to be a smart ass...OK


So you’re still making the argument you know more than the guys paid to put the best team on the field?  The ones who have shown an obvious eye in identifying talent, and manging the salary cap effectively for years.   AD was awesome too, more awesome than Robison, until he wasn’t.  i think I’ll be okay seeing Hunter in his third season more often, and teamed with Richardson.  It’s too bad it may mean making a tough decision. 

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@"Purplewhizz" said: Has anyone actually asked him to take a paycut or is this all just specukation?
I believe pops di mention somewhere that B Rob has been approached about it.
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@"Waterboy" said:
@"RushmoreVike" said:
@"Waterboy" said:
@"RushmoreVike" said:
@"Waterboy" said: I dont get how it’s so vital for us to go overboard in treating BRob special. i understand he’s been a Viking his whole NFL career. Careers end, and players aren’t entitled to earn more than they’re worth.  If the best talent evaluators on the Vikings deem him expendable on his current salary, they should move on.  Do what’s best for the Vikings.  
Then why didn't do the same to others who clearly weren't pulling their weight I'm the past.  And if they can't see that BRob is still playing at a top level in limited opportunities then they should seek other employment. The team led the league on 3rd downs last year...Remember who was setting the D for most of those plays?  Here's a hint. ...it wasn't any of our regular 11.

Hey Rick....pay that man his money!



Hmm, so you are a better evaluator of talent than the guy who put this Super Bowl contending team together.  Ok. 


A blind man could see that Robison is pulling his weight on D and that his contract is not out of line.  But if you want to be a smart ass...OK


So you’re still making the argument you know more than the guys paid to put the best team on the field?  The ones who have shown an obvious eye in identifying talent, and manging the salary cap effectively for years.   AD was awesome too, more awesome than Robison, until he wasn’t.  i think I’ll be okay seeing Hunter in his third season more often, and teamed with Richardson.  It’s too bad it may mean making a tough decision. 


And you are still  thinking that all personel decisions are based on talent and potential.  This is purely based on the leverage that spielman has on Robison by knowing that Brian is, by his own choice,  near the end of his career,  and wanting to do so with the Vikings.

But if you want to mistakenly believe  that this is somehow based on performance or talent,  go right ahead and be wrong.

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