A little context on Zimmer's QB comments
A week after NFL Network's Tom Pelissero reported that Week 1 starter Sam Bradford"absolutely intends to play in 2018" after a November knee surgery revealed that the quarterback's infamous ligaments were "intact," Zimmer told media at the scouting combine that Bradford has a "degenerative" knee.
That's hardly a ringing endorsement of the veteran's health entering free agency, although Zimmer, per Pelissero, also said "Bradford was skiing last week," so "getting through a full season is the real unknown" -- and the factor that figures to force the former No 1 overall draft pick and 2016 trade acquisition to a new home in the coming weeks.
Can Keenum repeat his 2017 breakout? Zimmer: “You think he can, but it’s just kind of guessing.” Noted they had a good team around him.
Mike Zimmer on Case Keenum: “Is he the guy that played for the Rams or is he the guy that played for us?”
Damn, Mike Zimmer loose in Indy.
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@"JimmyinSD" said:@"purplefaithful" said:@"JimmyinSD" said:41 to 33 and over 1100 yards of offense.@"StickyBun" said: I'm all in on whatever, I've said this from Day One, but if Zimmer isn't interested in trying to get a top QB because he's concerned about 'defensive talent' and how a QB would impact that salary cap-wise, the team will only ever be so good. It will be limited. Bridesmaids forever.Its a freakin' QBs league in the NFL. He can quote all the stats he wants, but the only stat that counts is a complete ass kicking in a NFC Championship game and a 1-2 record in the playoffs. Let's not be the Kansas City Chiefs.
I forget... did the team with the best QB win the Lombardi this year? Or was it the better defense?Not sure we saw that much defense this past SB...But yah, the team that scored the most won. :p
Ultimately it wasn't the better QB, it was the team with the better D that best the best QB in the league. Its going to take a great D to beat teams with great QBs.
Pats fans will take 5/1 in SB's...Or maybe it's 5/2 cause Eli beat em too. Gotta have both - especially QB in this league these days.Not sure if we got that QB on the roster now or not anymore. So many question marks on all of em.
We all know what they say when you have more than one qb on the roster...My question always has been "who's they?"
@"StickyBun" said: I'm all in on whatever, I've said this from Day One, but if Zimmer isn't interested in trying to get a top QB because he's concerned about 'defensive talent' and how a QB would impact that salary cap-wise, the team will only ever be so good. It will be limited. Bridesmaids forever.Its a freakin' QBs league in the NFL. He can quote all the stats he wants, but the only stat that counts is a complete ass kicking in a NFC Championship game and a 1-2 record in the playoffs. Let's not be the Kansas City Chiefs.
But what if he doesn't think Cousins is a "top" QB?
@"Geoff Nichols" said:@"StickyBun" said: I'm all in on whatever, I've said this from Day One, but if Zimmer isn't interested in trying to get a top QB because he's concerned about 'defensive talent' and how a QB would impact that salary cap-wise, the team will only ever be so good. It will be limited. Bridesmaids forever.Its a freakin' QBs league in the NFL. He can quote all the stats he wants, but the only stat that counts is a complete ass kicking in a NFC Championship game and a 1-2 record in the playoffs. Let's not be the Kansas City Chiefs.
But what if he doesn't think Cousins is a "top" QB?
Since they had to wait to get JDF on board before talking about QB's and the fact that Norv was the one who really wanted Teddy (or at least he worked him out at his pro day), I would say Zimmer should stick to his defense.He really needs to learn from the Eagles and rotate his defensive linemen more during the season so that they will not be worn out at the end.
Why Shamar and Jaleel did not play more is a mystery to me.
His part of the team really let them down vs the Eagles.
Now, Case gave away 7 and he fumbled in the red zone which would have changed the complexion some but the defense was getting worked for the most part.
He needs to do a better job explaining how he was thoroughly out coached in that game.
@"greediron" said:Let's make sure we keep understanding the team is why we have done good things.Yeah, makes me think they aren't going to overspend for a QB.
If hes going to get out-coached in big games like he did inhe NFC championship, I’m not sure we should continue to spend on his favorite side of the ball. He may never have no better chance than he had this year with everyone intact, and got drubbed.
@"StickyBun" said:@"JimmyinSD" said:@"purplefaithful" said:@"JimmyinSD" said:41 to 33 and over 1100 yards of offense.@"StickyBun" said: I'm all in on whatever, I've said this from Day One, but if Zimmer isn't interested in trying to get a top QB because he's concerned about 'defensive talent' and how a QB would impact that salary cap-wise, the team will only ever be so good. It will be limited. Bridesmaids forever.Its a freakin' QBs league in the NFL. He can quote all the stats he wants, but the only stat that counts is a complete ass kicking in a NFC Championship game and a 1-2 record in the playoffs. Let's not be the Kansas City Chiefs.
I forget... did the team with the best QB win the Lombardi this year? Or was it the better defense?Not sure we saw that much defense this past SB...But yah, the team that scored the most won. :p
Ultimately it wasn't the better QB, it was the team with the better D that best the best QB in the league. Its going to take a great D to beat teams with great QBs.
The better QB wins 8 out of 10 times. If you want the anomaly, good for you. I want the Super Bowl. Zimmer is talking like a second place coach who can't grasp that an offense is the difference in the NFCC games.
Not to mention they got there, in large part, because they had an MVP front runner at QB for 80% of the season. Zimmer is like the anti-Denny Green and now they both have similar lop-sided losses in NFC championship games.
@"Geoff Nichols" said:@"StickyBun" said: I'm all in on whatever, I've said this from Day One, but if Zimmer isn't interested in trying to get a top QB because he's concerned about 'defensive talent' and how a QB would impact that salary cap-wise, the team will only ever be so good. It will be limited. Bridesmaids forever.Its a freakin' QBs league in the NFL. He can quote all the stats he wants, but the only stat that counts is a complete ass kicking in a NFC Championship game and a 1-2 record in the playoffs. Let's not be the Kansas City Chiefs.
But what if he doesn't think Cousins is a "top" QB?
I openly question Zimmer’s judgement when it comes to anything offense.
@"StickyBun" said: I'm all in on whatever, I've said this from Day One, but if Zimmer isn't interested in trying to get a top QB because he's concerned about 'defensive talent' and how a QB would impact that salary cap-wise, the team will only ever be so good. It will be limited. Bridesmaids forever.Its a freakin' QBs league in the NFL. He can quote all the stats he wants, but the only stat that counts is a complete ass kicking in a NFC Championship game and a 1-2 record in the playoffs. Let's not be the Kansas City Chiefs.
Yep, the "I love my defense approach" is dangerous, and if Zimmer really believes it, he will just be a mirror image of Denny Green: one side of the ball fantastic, but ultimately held back because the other side is not up to NFL standards.
Denny had a great offense in 1999, and needed to infuse talent into his defense. He could have done so when the Brad Johnson trade provided the #11 pick, had he used it to add Jevon Kearse. Instead he picked Daunte Culpepper, who was only a future talent for the OFFENSE.
Zimmer's team now has the money to improve his offense, but if he's truly arguing to save that cap space to keep his defense together in the future...we will contend for the division for a number of years but never take the next step.
@"Geoff Nichols" said:@"StickyBun" said: I'm all in on whatever, I've said this from Day One, but if Zimmer isn't interested in trying to get a top QB because he's concerned about 'defensive talent' and how a QB would impact that salary cap-wise, the team will only ever be so good. It will be limited. Bridesmaids forever.Its a freakin' QBs league in the NFL. He can quote all the stats he wants, but the only stat that counts is a complete ass kicking in a NFC Championship game and a 1-2 record in the playoffs. Let's not be the Kansas City Chiefs.
But what if he doesn't think Cousins is a "top" QB?
Honestly Geoff, I guess I'll get behind it and hope for the best, what choice do I have? But how can I trust that Zimmer wants the 'top' QB when he's already said he just wants a QB that won't mess with his defensive talent? He wants a game manager, somebody that doesn't create a lot of turnovers. That gets you decent regular seasons but disappointing post seasons. I want a killer mentality. Zimmer talks and thinks like a glorified defensive coordinator, not a HC.Welcome to Minneapolis, the Kansas City of the North.
@"StickyBun" said:@"Geoff Nichols" said:@"StickyBun" said: I'm all in on whatever, I've said this from Day One, but if Zimmer isn't interested in trying to get a top QB because he's concerned about 'defensive talent' and how a QB would impact that salary cap-wise, the team will only ever be so good. It will be limited. Bridesmaids forever.Its a freakin' QBs league in the NFL. He can quote all the stats he wants, but the only stat that counts is a complete ass kicking in a NFC Championship game and a 1-2 record in the playoffs. Let's not be the Kansas City Chiefs.
But what if he doesn't think Cousins is a "top" QB?
Honestly Geoff, I guess I'll get behind it and hope for the best, what choice do I have? But how can I trust that Zimmer wants the 'top' QB when he's already said he just wants a QB that won't mess with his defensive talent? He wants a game manager, somebody that doesn't create a lot of turnovers. That gets you decent regular seasons but disappointing post seasons. I want a killer mentality. Zimmer talks and thinks like a glorified defensive coordinator, not a HC.Welcome to Minneapolis, the Kansas City of the North.
I think part of his trouble is he dependence on listening to Parcells. The game has changed a great deal since Parcells coached.
@"Purplewhizz" said:@"StickyBun" said:@"Geoff Nichols" said:@"StickyBun" said: I'm all in on whatever, I've said this from Day One, but if Zimmer isn't interested in trying to get a top QB because he's concerned about 'defensive talent' and how a QB would impact that salary cap-wise, the team will only ever be so good. It will be limited. Bridesmaids forever.Its a freakin' QBs league in the NFL. He can quote all the stats he wants, but the only stat that counts is a complete ass kicking in a NFC Championship game and a 1-2 record in the playoffs. Let's not be the Kansas City Chiefs.
But what if he doesn't think Cousins is a "top" QB?
Honestly Geoff, I guess I'll get behind it and hope for the best, what choice do I have? But how can I trust that Zimmer wants the 'top' QB when he's already said he just wants a QB that won't mess with his defensive talent? He wants a game manager, somebody that doesn't create a lot of turnovers. That gets you decent regular seasons but disappointing post seasons. I want a killer mentality. Zimmer talks and thinks like a glorified defensive coordinator, not a HC.Welcome to Minneapolis, the Kansas City of the North.
I think part of his trouble is he dependence on listening to Parcells. The game has changed a great deal since Parcells coached.
Now when was the last time he said anything about going to Parcells for advice?Holy shit it's amazing how fast people want to throw Zim under the bus. And for those that don't think his input is valuable in finding a QB, who the hell do you think he watches on film all the time to see how to build his great defenses? He studies QBs and likely has more input on their weaknesses and tendencies than a lot of offensive minds.
I think what he is saying is being taken out of context, if a brady or rogers was the one wanting 30 million then I doubt he is talking about the cap implications, bit it's not, the rumored 30 mill guy isn't even close to them. Same goes for over paying keenum, if he's looking for north of 15 he's nuts as well.
@"JimmyinSD" said:@"Purplewhizz" said:@"StickyBun" said:@"Geoff Nichols" said:@"StickyBun" said: I'm all in on whatever, I've said this from Day One, but if Zimmer isn't interested in trying to get a top QB because he's concerned about 'defensive talent' and how a QB would impact that salary cap-wise, the team will only ever be so good. It will be limited. Bridesmaids forever.Its a freakin' QBs league in the NFL. He can quote all the stats he wants, but the only stat that counts is a complete ass kicking in a NFC Championship game and a 1-2 record in the playoffs. Let's not be the Kansas City Chiefs.
But what if he doesn't think Cousins is a "top" QB?
Honestly Geoff, I guess I'll get behind it and hope for the best, what choice do I have? But how can I trust that Zimmer wants the 'top' QB when he's already said he just wants a QB that won't mess with his defensive talent? He wants a game manager, somebody that doesn't create a lot of turnovers. That gets you decent regular seasons but disappointing post seasons. I want a killer mentality. Zimmer talks and thinks like a glorified defensive coordinator, not a HC.Welcome to Minneapolis, the Kansas City of the North.
I think part of his trouble is he dependence on listening to Parcells. The game has changed a great deal since Parcells coached.
Now when was the last time he said anything about going to Parcells for advice?Holy shit it's amazing how fast people want to throw Zim under the bus. And for those that don't think his input is valuable in finding a QB, who the hell do you think he watches on film all the time to see how to build his great defenses? He studies QBs and likely has more input on their weaknesses and tendencies than a lot of offensive minds.
I think what he is saying is being taken out of context, if a brady or rogers was the one wanting 30 million then I doubt he is talking about the cap implications, bit it's not, the rumored 30 mill guy isn't even close to them. Same goes for over paying keenum, if he's looking for north of 15 he's nuts as well.
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2018/01/17/parcells-advises-zimmer-to-urge-players-to-forget-unforgettable-finish/
The new OC is going to have a lot of say in this as is RS...My hope is that the very transparent Zimmer (he is a bad liar in public) is being a great poker player. Frankly it seemed appropriate timing for Zimmer or RS to throw a little water on all the Cousins to Vikings fires.
That said, I am becoming concerned we got an old school coach who wont ever get to the big game by being just fine with average to good on offense. North titles dont cut it for this fan.
I will be watching to see how his D evolves this season as well. It's officially and publicly be been exposed and humiliated.
@"JimmyinSD" said:@"Purplewhizz" said:@"StickyBun" said:@"Geoff Nichols" said:@"StickyBun" said: I'm all in on whatever, I've said this from Day One, but if Zimmer isn't interested in trying to get a top QB because he's concerned about 'defensive talent' and how a QB would impact that salary cap-wise, the team will only ever be so good. It will be limited. Bridesmaids forever.Its a freakin' QBs league in the NFL. He can quote all the stats he wants, but the only stat that counts is a complete ass kicking in a NFC Championship game and a 1-2 record in the playoffs. Let's not be the Kansas City Chiefs.
But what if he doesn't think Cousins is a "top" QB?
Honestly Geoff, I guess I'll get behind it and hope for the best, what choice do I have? But how can I trust that Zimmer wants the 'top' QB when he's already said he just wants a QB that won't mess with his defensive talent? He wants a game manager, somebody that doesn't create a lot of turnovers. That gets you decent regular seasons but disappointing post seasons. I want a killer mentality. Zimmer talks and thinks like a glorified defensive coordinator, not a HC.Welcome to Minneapolis, the Kansas City of the North.
I think part of his trouble is he dependence on listening to Parcells. The game has changed a great deal since Parcells coached.
Now when was the last time he said anything about going to Parcells for advice?Holy shit it's amazing how fast people want to throw Zim under the bus. And for those that don't think his input is valuable in finding a QB, who the hell do you think he watches on film all the time to see how to build his great defenses? He studies QBs and likely has more input on their weaknesses and tendencies than a lot of offensive minds.
I think what he is saying is being taken out of context, if a brady or rogers was the one wanting 30 million then I doubt he is talking about the cap implications, bit it's not, the rumored 30 mill guy isn't even close to them. Same goes for over paying keenum, if he's looking for north of 15 he's nuts as well.
I think you are taking it the wrong way. Zimmer himself said publicly that he did not get involved too much with the offense until this past season. As a fan, who knows nothing really about what Zimmer does or does not know about QBs or offenses, I just go by what he has publicly said and try to interpret.Sure he knows QBs and how he wants to defend them. 100% without a doubt. But does he know how he wants them to develop and what little things they need to practice like he does with DBs? Could he become a QB coach or OC?
Then, you see that Zimmer, Spielman, etc. have seen all 3 current QBs all year and STILL have not made a decision. Come on man. They don't need no more time. Trying to act like they need to discuss all of these dudes again, when you know they probably already have til their blue in the face, is comical to me. They said they needed JDF's input too. That part I can understand a little.
So, I don't know about throwing no coach under the bus. The facts of his involvement in the offense have been public knowledge (from his own mouth) since he got here. Why would anyone really believe he is the guy you want choosing a QB?
@"Purplewhizz" said:@"JimmyinSD" said:@"Purplewhizz" said:@"StickyBun" said:@"Geoff Nichols" said:@"StickyBun" said: I'm all in on whatever, I've said this from Day One, but if Zimmer isn't interested in trying to get a top QB because he's concerned about 'defensive talent' and how a QB would impact that salary cap-wise, the team will only ever be so good. It will be limited. Bridesmaids forever.Its a freakin' QBs league in the NFL. He can quote all the stats he wants, but the only stat that counts is a complete ass kicking in a NFC Championship game and a 1-2 record in the playoffs. Let's not be the Kansas City Chiefs.
But what if he doesn't think Cousins is a "top" QB?
Honestly Geoff, I guess I'll get behind it and hope for the best, what choice do I have? But how can I trust that Zimmer wants the 'top' QB when he's already said he just wants a QB that won't mess with his defensive talent? He wants a game manager, somebody that doesn't create a lot of turnovers. That gets you decent regular seasons but disappointing post seasons. I want a killer mentality. Zimmer talks and thinks like a glorified defensive coordinator, not a HC.Welcome to Minneapolis, the Kansas City of the North.
I think part of his trouble is he dependence on listening to Parcells. The game has changed a great deal since Parcells coached.
Now when was the last time he said anything about going to Parcells for advice?Holy shit it's amazing how fast people want to throw Zim under the bus. And for those that don't think his input is valuable in finding a QB, who the hell do you think he watches on film all the time to see how to build his great defenses? He studies QBs and likely has more input on their weaknesses and tendencies than a lot of offensive minds.
I think what he is saying is being taken out of context, if a brady or rogers was the one wanting 30 million then I doubt he is talking about the cap implications, bit it's not, the rumored 30 mill guy isn't even close to them. Same goes for over paying keenum, if he's looking for north of 15 he's nuts as well.
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2018/01/17/parcells-advises-zimmer-to-urge-players-to-forget-unforgettable-finish/
parcels can say what he wants, it doesnt mean the Zim is soliciting his advice or even following it, as far as prepping for a big game and shit like that, I doubt that part of the game has changed, in terms of building rosters and scheming yes its changed and I am sure that Zim has enough sense to take what anybody tells him with the due it deserves.
http://www.nytimes.com/1994/04/14/sports/pro-football-vikings-near-on-a-deal-to-acquire-oilers-moon.html
Here's an article written in 1994 for the New York Times that includes when we were in talks to acquire Warren Moon. It's just a bit of a historical footnote for your reading pleasure. Look at those salaries for starting QBs!
In 1994, the salary cap was $34.608 million...
@"MarkSP18" said:@"JimmyinSD" said:@"Purplewhizz" said:@"StickyBun" said:@"Geoff Nichols" said:@"StickyBun" said: I'm all in on whatever, I've said this from Day One, but if Zimmer isn't interested in trying to get a top QB because he's concerned about 'defensive talent' and how a QB would impact that salary cap-wise, the team will only ever be so good. It will be limited. Bridesmaids forever.Its a freakin' QBs league in the NFL. He can quote all the stats he wants, but the only stat that counts is a complete ass kicking in a NFC Championship game and a 1-2 record in the playoffs. Let's not be the Kansas City Chiefs.
But what if he doesn't think Cousins is a "top" QB?
Honestly Geoff, I guess I'll get behind it and hope for the best, what choice do I have? But how can I trust that Zimmer wants the 'top' QB when he's already said he just wants a QB that won't mess with his defensive talent? He wants a game manager, somebody that doesn't create a lot of turnovers. That gets you decent regular seasons but disappointing post seasons. I want a killer mentality. Zimmer talks and thinks like a glorified defensive coordinator, not a HC.Welcome to Minneapolis, the Kansas City of the North.
I think part of his trouble is he dependence on listening to Parcells. The game has changed a great deal since Parcells coached.
Now when was the last time he said anything about going to Parcells for advice?Holy shit it's amazing how fast people want to throw Zim under the bus. And for those that don't think his input is valuable in finding a QB, who the hell do you think he watches on film all the time to see how to build his great defenses? He studies QBs and likely has more input on their weaknesses and tendencies than a lot of offensive minds.
I think what he is saying is being taken out of context, if a brady or rogers was the one wanting 30 million then I doubt he is talking about the cap implications, bit it's not, the rumored 30 mill guy isn't even close to them. Same goes for over paying keenum, if he's looking for north of 15 he's nuts as well.
I think you are taking it the wrong way. Zimmer himself said publicly that he did not get involved too much with the offense until this past season. As a fan, who knows nothing really about what Zimmer does or does not know about QBs or offenses, I just go by what he has publicly said and try to interpret.Sure he knows QBs and how he wants to defend them. 100% without a doubt. But does he know how he wants them to develop and what little things they need to practice like he does with DBs? Could he become a QB coach or OC?
Then, you see that Zimmer, Spielman, etc. have seen all 3 current QBs all year and STILL have not made a decision. Come on man. They don't need no more time. Trying to act like they need to discuss all of these dudes again, when you know they probably already have til their blue in the face, is comical to me. They said they needed JDF's input too. That part I can understand a little.
So, I don't know about throwing no coach under the bus. The facts of his involvement in the offense have been public knowledge (from his own mouth) since he got here. Why would anyone really believe he is the guy you want choosing a QB?
We dont want any 1 person choosing our QB, it needs to be a group effort. Zims input can really help in showing flaws in a QBs game that he would exploit with a defensive scheme, then its up to the OC and position coach to decide if those flaws can be fixed or can be schemed to protect. Yes Zim had been hands off and I think that was more to the point of letting Norv do what ever he wanted with no questions asked, I think when the wheels came off and Norv left is when Zim saw that his "hands off" approach wasnt right and started asking questions. IMO losing that autonomy over the offense is what led to Norvs abrupt departure. I dont think he is dabbling with coaching up positions or the Xs and Os of play calling or scheming, but to work at identifying players his football experience should be used.As far as the last 6 quarters of defense, yep they were bad, but what we dont know is what Zim was working with. We wonder why he didnt do this or that, but honestly do we think that we are in a better position to say what should have been done? I questioned the lack of rotation that night, but i also conceded that I didnt know the health status of the other players or if they were even a better option. it was the defense that got us there this year, seems pretty silly to say that they are the reason we lost when our O did nothing to help them at key parts of the game.
@"kmillard" said:@"StickyBun" said: I'm all in on whatever, I've said this from Day One, but if Zimmer isn't interested in trying to get a top QB because he's concerned about 'defensive talent' and how a QB would impact that salary cap-wise, the team will only ever be so good. It will be limited. Bridesmaids forever.Its a freakin' QBs league in the NFL. He can quote all the stats he wants, but the only stat that counts is a complete ass kicking in a NFC Championship game and a 1-2 record in the playoffs. Let's not be the Kansas City Chiefs.
We are officially the Chiefs of the NFC for the last 20 years.
I wish we were the Chiefs. We'd at least have one SB victory. B)
I agree with Zim. It sounds to me like he doesn't want to break the bank on some FA QB that's a moderate upgrade from Case (actually downgrade from a healthy Sam).
If we end up with Cousins, whatever; good, hope it works out, but if we don't, no big deal me. He's not that much better than Case, and who knows about Teddy? Cousins is not an elite QB, and overspending for an above average QB that can ultimately hurt salaries for other star player doesn't sound good to me.
For those of you that seem to have forgotten that Case actually had a
GREAT season, take a look at this vid when the Vikings played the
Redskins. Both QBs made great throws, but Case was way more efficient.
Case had a couple bad picks, but Cousins had a killer one too that was
really a horrible throw.
@"purplefaithful" said: The new OC is going to have a lot of say in this as is RS...My hope is that the very transparent Zimmer (he is a bad liar in public) is being a great poker player. Frankly it seemed appropriate timing for Zimmer or RS to throw a little water on all the Cousins to Vikings fires.That said, I am becoming concerned we got an old school coach who wont ever get to the big game by being just fine with average to good on offense. North titles dont cut it for this fan.
I will be watching to see how his D evolves this season as well. It's officially and publicly be been exposed and humiliated.
PF, back in September, did you expect the Vikings to win the SB? How about a couple weeks later after losing both Bradford and Cook, did you expect to see them even make the playoffs?
Zim got his team to the NFCC game with very key pieces of the team missing, and it's not enough for a fan like you? Come on...
@"FSUVike" said:@"JimmyinSD" said:@"StickyBun" said: I'm all in on whatever, I've said this from Day One, but if Zimmer isn't interested in trying to get a top QB because he's concerned about 'defensive talent' and how a QB would impact that salary cap-wise, the team will only ever be so good. It will be limited. Bridesmaids forever.Its a freakin' QBs league in the NFL. He can quote all the stats he wants, but the only stat that counts is a complete ass kicking in a NFC Championship game and a 1-2 record in the playoffs. Let's not be the Kansas City Chiefs.
I forget... did the team with the best QB win the Lombardi this year? Or was it the better defense?
You mean that awesome Defense that gave up 33 points? Against virtually no Gronk looks in the first half? Virtually no Cooks at all?The last two Super Bowl winners have had to eclipse 30 points to win.
Rub routes. Bunch formations. RPO. Tons of good RBs that can reverse cut and go. Maverick OCs that can scheme TEs onto small Slot CBs and RBs like Hunt, Kamara and Clements facing LBs.
And that doesn't even account for the proliferation of PF and PI calls against the Defense. Or how the young coaches are looking at analytics and making bolder calls on 4th, in the Redzone, etx.,
Defenses will adjust. They always have. But the last few years have proven that you need to score consistently to win. I don't think this is the time to plan on winning it all because you expect your Defense to hold really good teams under 21 points.
2 games is not a significant sample size. The average losing score of the last 5 SBs is 20.6 points. The average losing score of the last 10 SBs is 21.6 points. The average losing score of the last 20 SBs is 19.4 points. In the last 10 SB, 2 of the losing teams have been held under 11 points, 2 more under 18 points, 3 more under 26 points, and 3 that would have required more than 26 points (29,32,34). Scoring 21 points would win you the SB 50% of the time, and scoring 26 points would win you the SB 70% of the time for those past 10 years. The further you go back, the less points were scored by the losing team.
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