Position change for Treadwell?

Maybe he could play Left Out.

So much angst over the #3 WR position for a 10-2 team. Of course, it's the Vikings. We'll find things to worry about after a Super Bowl win because that's how we are hardwired.

id worry more about our kicker then anything

He is way too skinny for TE.  Bell, Rudolph and Morgan are truly massive men.

i suspect we will see Floyd more very soon

Our offense is humming along, I suspect Shurmur may have an idea what he is doing.

if you watch actual game video or are at the game, LT11 gets open. Case likes AT19 as his primary. He likes to look at Diggs. And has anyone else noticed how Wright gets wide open a ton but never gets PT? Floyd also seems to be a decent playmaker??? And wow, we are making plays in the redzone with keenum more than we did last year, especially to Rudy.
we only have so many balls to throw and keenum has the order he likes to look. If we are on an 8 game winning streak and have developed at top 5 O and this is the worst you can find? i'll take it. Because if you watch the tape, Treadwell could be getting the ball, plus he is involved in the big plays (in blocking or as a distraction)

@"Neptizzle" said: if you watch actual game video or are at the game, LT11 gets open. Case likes AT19 as his primary. He likes to look at Diggs. And has anyone else noticed how Wright gets wide open a ton but never gets PT? Floyd also seems to be a decent playmaker??? And wow, we are making plays in the redzone with keenum more than we did last year, especially to Rudy. we only have so many balls to throw and keenum has the order he likes to look. If we are on an 8 game winning streak and have developed at top 5 O and this is the worst you can find? i'll take it. Because if you watch the tape, Treadwell could be getting the ball, plus he is involved in the big plays (in blocking or as a distraction)

Well said.  I think Case is getting much better at going through his progressions.  I recall one 3rd down play I think, they showed him looking left and then coming back to Wright (I think) for a big first down.  As you say, Case has his favorites, but I think he is getting better, growing into the offense.  We will need that in the playoffs.

I definitely agree with you Greed. Comparing the Steelers game to some of the magic plays he made this week with falcons players at his feet... wow. Case has definitely grown up. He over-threw both diggs and theilen on the sideline, but they both showed they are magic too NEARLY getting their feet down.
Case is not scared in the pocket, can navigate, is definitely becoming comfortable going threw his progressions, and is definitely continually looking to make a play.

@"Neptizzle" said: I definitely agree with you Greed. Comparing the Steelers game to some of the magic plays he made this week with falcons players at his feet... wow. Case has definitely grown up. He over-threw both diggs and theilen on the sideline, but they both showed they are magic too NEARLY getting their feet down. Case is not scared in the pocket, can navigate, is definitely becoming comfortable going threw his progressions, and is definitely continually looking to make a play.

Some of those plays tho, I was screaming at him to get rid of it.  I think it was the one to Diggs where Diggs pointed upfield and Case found him as he causally drifted to his left.  I thought he was going to get annihilated.  He has a good sense of movement in the pocket.  Much better than mine while I am watching him.

@"FSUVike" said: So much angst over the #3 WR position for a 10-2 team. Of course, it's the Vikings. We'll find things to worry about after a Super Bowl win because that's how we are hardwired.

You make that sound like a bad thing ;)

I know some of those extending the play has me cringing even after he gets rid of it--I half expect they are gonna follow the play downfield and then come back to the cart taking Case off the field 

@"FSUVike" said: So much angst over the #3 WR position for a 10-2 team. Of course, it's the Vikings. We'll find things to worry about after a Super Bowl win because that's how we are hardwired.

The guy was the #23 selection in round 1 of the Draft.....the angst is it was a wasted pick. Its not even debatable. A very nice mitigation of this is that an UDFA and a 5th rounder are one of the top WR duos in the league. 

But lets call it what it is: a bust. 

@"Tom Moore" said:

i suspect we will see Floyd more very soon

And watch him keep getting a reception or two (if he's lucky) a game?  There just aren't many targets for a third WR on this team with Thielen, Diggs, Rudy, and our RBs gobbling up 80% of the targets.
The Vikings have 404 pass attempts this season, which comes out to about 33 passing attempts per game.  Here is a break down of how those targets are allocated on the team:
Targets
Thielen - 112 (27.7 %)
Diggs - 65 (16.1 %)
Rudolph - 70 (17.3 %)
McKinnon - 54 (13.4 %)
Those are the top 4 leaders in targets per game...  between Thielen, Diggs, Rudolph, and McKinnon they are getting 75% of the team's targets.
That leaves about 8 targets per game to split between Wright, Treadwell, Floyd, Morgan, Murray, and Ham.  How are these guys supposed to produce with only a target or two each game?  It's hard to put up stats without opportunities.
Why aren't there topics ripping Floyd for being basically invisible all season?  I mean this is a guy that many fans here had pegged as a legit weapon in the passing attack and said he would surpass Treadwell as the team's 3rd WR?  10 targets in 7 games?  8 receptions for 75 yards and NO TOUCHDOWNS?  Where is the outrage?  The guy is a bigger bust than Treadwell...
*devil face*

*impressedwithyourbreakdownface*

@"Wetlander" said:

@"Tom Moore" said:

i suspect we will see Floyd more very soon

And watch him keep getting a reception or two (if he's lucky) a game?  There just aren't many targets for a third WR on this team with Thielen, Diggs, Rudy, and our RBs gobbling up 80% of the targets.
The Vikings have 404 pass attempts this season, which comes out to about 33 passing attempts per game.  Here is a break down of how those targets are allocated on the team:
Targets
Thielen - 112 (27.7 %)
Diggs - 65 (16.1 %)
Rudolph - 70 (17.3 %)
McKinnon - 54 (13.4 %)
Those are the top 4 leaders in targets per game...  between Thielen, Diggs, Rudolph, and McKinnon they are getting 75% of the team's targets.
That leaves about 8 targets per game to split between Wright, Treadwell, Floyd, Morgan, Murray, and Ham.  How are these guys supposed to produce with only a target or two each game?  It's hard to put up stats without opportunities.
Why aren't there topics ripping Floyd for being basically invisible all season?  I mean this is a guy that many fans here had pegged as a legit weapon in the passing attack and said he would surpass Treadwell as the team's 3rd WR?  10 targets in 7 games?  8 receptions for 75 yards and NO TOUCHDOWNS?  Where is the outrage?  The guy is a bigger bust than Treadwell...
*devil face*

(@"StickyBun" said:

@"FSUVike" said: So much angst over the #3 WR position for a 10-2 team. Of course, it's the Vikings. We'll find things to worry about after a Super Bowl win because that's how we are hardwired.

The guy was the #23 selection in round 1 of the Draft.....the angst is it was a wasted pick. Its not even debatable. A very nice mitigation of this is that an UDFA and a 5th rounder are one of the top WR duos in the league. 

But lets call it what it is: a bust. 

@"FSUVike" said:

(@"StickyBun" said:

@"FSUVike" said: So much angst over the #3 WR position for a 10-2 team. Of course, it's the Vikings. We'll find things to worry about after a Super Bowl win because that's how we are hardwired.

The guy was the #23 selection in round 1 of the Draft.....the angst is it was a wasted pick. Its not even debatable. A very nice mitigation of this is that an UDFA and a 5th rounder are one of the top WR duos in the league. 

But lets call it what it is: a bust. 

Half of all 1st Round picks are busts. Yet we spend as much time talking about this dude as we do the Vikings amazing season. Hell, Tom even felt the need to take a shot at him in his post-game write up.

Floyd, Patterson, Kalil, maybe Waynes. Busts happen, the team is still 10-2. Get over it.

@"Wetlander" said:

@"Tom Moore" said:

i suspect we will see Floyd more very soon

And watch him keep getting a reception or two (if he's lucky) a game?  There just aren't many targets for a third WR on this team with Thielen, Diggs, Rudy, and our RBs gobbling up 80% of the targets.
The Vikings have 404 pass attempts this season, which comes out to about 33 passing attempts per game.  Here is a break down of how those targets are allocated on the team:
Targets
Thielen - 112 (27.7 %)
Diggs - 65 (16.1 %)
Rudolph - 70 (17.3 %)
McKinnon - 54 (13.4 %)
Those are the top 4 leaders in targets per game...  between Thielen, Diggs, Rudolph, and McKinnon they are getting 75% of the team's targets.
That leaves about 8 targets per game to split between Wright, Treadwell, Floyd, Morgan, Murray, and Ham.  How are these guys supposed to produce with only a target or two each game?  It's hard to put up stats without opportunities.
Why aren't there topics ripping Floyd for being basically invisible all season?  I mean this is a guy that many fans here had pegged as a legit weapon in the passing attack and said he would surpass Treadwell as the team's 3rd WR?  10 targets in 7 games?  8 receptions for 75 yards and NO TOUCHDOWNS?  Where is the outrage?  The guy is a bigger bust than Treadwell...
*devil face*

@"FSUVike" said: So much angst over the #3 WR position for a 10-2 team. Of course, it's the Vikings. We'll find things to worry about after a Super Bowl win because that's how we are hardwired.

Angst?!?  There's no angst.  No angst.  (Well, no more than the usual amount of angst... ;) )

I just want us to find a way for Treadwell to be useful to this team.

It might not be a good idea, and a position change wouldn't happen in-season.  The fact is that he's worked hard, seems like a good person -- but can't get it done.  We've seen what he can do, and it isn't enough to get him on the field.

I'd rather have Wright OR Floyd on the field than him.  And maybe Coley.