Anyone here REALLY EXPECT Bridgewater to start Sunday?

@"JimmyinSD" said:

@"twgerber" said: Case starts this week.  The team is winning and you don't change a successful formula just cause it's Teddy.  

i dont think to many that are saying make the change are saying it because its Teddy,  they are saying it because they want the best QB to play and the assumption right now is that Teddy is going to be better than Case,  but I am sure the thoughts would be the same if it was Sam or any other QB with a higher upside than Case.

Teddy will work his way back into the starter's role in due time.  No rush, and I am confident the coaches see it that way too.

The real issue is Bradford and what to do with him.  Despite the statements that he is doing "better", he is still not practicing and I think that is it for him for this season.

 A more interesting question might be who goes in if Case gets hurt? Sloter or Bridgewater? I sorta think if Teddy's not ready to start he's not ready to backup either. 

@"MaroonBells" said:  A more interesting question might be who goes in if Case gets hurt? Sloter or Bridgewater? I sorta think if Teddy's not ready to start he's not ready to backup either. 

I think that Zimmer would sooner have Teddy backing Keenum up. Edit: because Sloter has no game experience at all.
Another question is will we carry 3 active QB's for the game.

@"JimmyinSD" said:

@"HappyViking" said: I wish he would, but I don't think he will. 

If Teddy gets activated, does anyone think Sam gets placed on IR this week?

I think that really depends on how close Sam is in returning to practice.  If you were Sam and you are looking at a contract year would you accept an IR designation if you didnt feel that it was warranted.  The last thing the team needs right now is a pissing match in the locker room.

@"Jor-El" said: I don't expect it, but if he is healthy and practicing well, I think he should. If his return to play is "Keenum disappointed and we need Bridgewater to save us", the situation will be second-guessed and do the team and players no good. 

Bridgewater is a starter and Keenum is his backup. Start the starter and insert the backup if/when needed. If Teddy is healthy enough to play, give him his job back. Anything else just confuses their roles.

Now, if there is physical doubt about Bridgewater's readiness, that's a different situation, but in that case he shouldn't even be active for the game. 

Who was his back up????

@"twgerber" said:

@"JimmyinSD" said:

@"twgerber" said: Case starts this week.  The team is winning and you don't change a successful formula just cause it's Teddy.  

i dont think to many that are saying make the change are saying it because its Teddy,  they are saying it because they want the best QB to play and the assumption right now is that Teddy is going to be better than Case,  but I am sure the thoughts would be the same if it was Sam or any other QB with a higher upside than Case.

Teddy needs some real game experience before they swap him into the starter role.  I think he has more upside but he will be very rusty for a few games.   Being in first place I don't think you shake the boat.

I am a huge Teddy fan but starting him in Wash would be dumb IMO.

I don't see Teddy starting this week either. Initially I thought it would be against the Rams but that wasn't taking into account what Wetlander pointed out about it being 2 games in a very short stretch of time. Seems like Detroit could be that time (never mind it's a nationally televised game on a holiday...no pressure there for Teddy....) The one thing I do know is that they HAVE TO get Teddy on the field this season. They know what they've got in Keenum, they know what they have in a healthy Sam....they still don't know what Teddy brings after suffering that major injury. They have to find out. We can't go into 2018 with only Sloter under contract. 
With Sam's long-term health now in question I don't see them investing huge dollars in him, unfortunately. Keenum will get offers from teams. Teddy's value has to be determined. If he is allowed to leave without truly finding that out (other than watching him in non-contact practices) Spielman and company will be slaughtered.

Why do they HAVE to get him on the field.   They know what they have in Teddy and if they don't know that by know they will never know.   The Vikings are not known for risk taking, don't see them risking the season or Teddy.

@"PapaScott" said: Why do they HAVE to get him on the field.   They know what they have in Teddy and if they don't know that by know they will never know.   The Vikings are not known for risk taking, don't see them risking the season or Teddy.

@"JimmyinSD" said:

@"PapaScott" said: Why do they HAVE to get him on the field.   They know what they have in Teddy and if they don't know that by know they will never know.   The Vikings are not known for risk taking, don't see them risking the season or Teddy.

how do you know what you have in a guy that has undergone a major injury and lengthy rehab, but has not seen live action?  remember Sam looked good in practice prior to the bears game and we all saw how that changed when the red jersey came off.

@"PapaScott" said:

@"JimmyinSD" said:

@"PapaScott" said: Why do they HAVE to get him on the field.   They know what they have in Teddy and if they don't know that by know they will never know.   The Vikings are not known for risk taking, don't see them risking the season or Teddy.

how do you know what you have in a guy that has undergone a major injury and lengthy rehab, but has not seen live action?  remember Sam looked good in practice prior to the bears game and we all saw how that changed when the red jersey came off.

The odds of Teddy returning to play football are 20%  The Vikings are sitting at 6-2, Starting a guy who has not played a down in 2 years is asinine.  Then you factor in Starting him in Washington?  Nope not going to happen, all the hope in the world is not going to make that happen.  The only way He sees the field is if he gets activated today.  IF that happens then the only way is if the Vikings have a big lead and then I'm not even sure I would risk him. 

Do you think they want to hand over millions of dollars to a player that they haven't seen in a live game?? Unless they aren't planning on resigning him they need to see him in live action. I'd think that would be obvious to anyone.

It feels like a lot of this discussion is some form of "that type of turf is wrong" or "a home/away game is wrong" - trying to determine the perfect  moment for Bridgewater. Another big part of the comments are, "but that would be his first game action / first hit", and more are "he might be rusty / need some game reps without pressure"...

But should the Vikings really look for some ideal condition? If you insist his first game action against live opponents must occur when conditions are ideal and pressure minimal, put him back on PUP right now because that is not going to happen until the 2018 preseason. 

Teddy's biggest supporters say he is special and GUMP. If that's true, play him when he is physically ready, don't wait for some opportunity to ease him in softly.

@"JimmyinSD" said:

@"twgerber" said: Case starts this week.  The team is winning and you don't change a successful formula just cause it's Teddy.  

i dont think to many that are saying make the change are saying it because its Teddy,  they are saying it because they want the best QB to play and the assumption right now is that Teddy is going to be better than Case,  but I am sure the thoughts would be the same if it was Sam or any other QB with a higher upside than Case.

@"Jor-El" said: It feels like a lot of this discussion is some form of "that type of turf is wrong" or "a home/away game is wrong" - trying to determine the perfect  moment for Bridgewater. Another big part of the comments are, "but that would be his first game action / first hit", and more are "he might be rusty / need some game reps without pressure"...

But should the Vikings really look for some ideal condition? If you insist his first game action against live opponents must occur when conditions are ideal and pressure minimal, put him back on PUP right now because that is not going to happen until the 2018 preseason. 

Teddy's biggest supporters say he is special and GUMP. If that's true, play him when he is physically ready, don't wait for some opportunity to ease him in softly.

Agree, there is no perfect scenario. An injury can occur at any time, even without contact as we know all too well already.
I had honestly hoped to see Teddy back against the Rams if he was ready, only because I thought it being a home game it would really, really pump up the fans to see him restart his career at US Bank. It makes sense from a PR standpoint but isn't necessarily sensible with regard to Teddy's health (though I feel confident he's mentally ready).  We only have 3 home games left and so it seemed like a good spot to me for him to come back. But I trust the team as they are obviously consulting with Teddy's physicians and therapists and Teddy himself to make sure he's feeling ready for live game action.

Here's the article.   http://zonecoverage.com/2017/vikings/vikings-features/seehafer-on-zach-miller-teddy-bridgewater-and-dislocated-knees/
It’s been estimated that approximately 19 percent of players who suffered a lower-velocity knee dislocation — often lacking neurovascular compromise — returned to their prior level of sport.

If a player is able to return to their prior level of play, they are at an increased risk of significant knee injuries — both acute and chronic — and have a 50 percent increased risk of developing osteoarthritis.
As for Bridgewater, who could come off the physically unable to perform list within the next few weeks, the research serves as a cautionary tale. Anybody with a heart and who is a fan of football is pulling for him to return to action and succeed, but getting back on the field, although it would be a major triumph, is only the beginning. He will forever have an elevated risk for suffering another knee injury, not only in his involved knee but also his uninvolved.

It’s imperative that the Vikings and Bridgewater continue to be cautious with his return, putting him back under center only when he and his knee are truly ready, whether that be this season or next.

@"PapaScott" said: Here's the article.   http://zonecoverage.com/2017/vikings/vikings-features/seehafer-on-zach-miller-teddy-bridgewater-and-dislocated-knees/ It’s been estimated that approximately 19 percent of players who suffered a lower-velocity knee dislocation — often lacking neurovascular compromise — returned to their prior level of sport.

If a player is able to return to their prior level of play, they are at an increased risk of significant knee injuries — both acute and chronic — and have a 50 percent increased risk of developing osteoarthritis.

As for Bridgewater, who could come off the physically unable to perform list within the next few weeks, the research serves as a cautionary tale. Anybody with a heart and who is a fan of football is pulling for him to return to action and succeed, but getting back on the field, although it would be a major triumph, is only the beginning. He will forever have an elevated risk for suffering another knee injury, not only in his involved knee but also his uninvolved.

It’s imperative that the Vikings and Bridgewater continue to be cautious with his return, putting him back under center only when he and his knee are truly ready, whether that be this season or next.

@"JimmyinSD" said:

@"PapaScott" said: Here's the article.   http://zonecoverage.com/2017/vikings/vikings-features/seehafer-on-zach-miller-teddy-bridgewater-and-dislocated-knees/ It’s been estimated that approximately 19 percent of players who suffered a lower-velocity knee dislocation — often lacking neurovascular compromise — returned to their prior level of sport.

If a player is able to return to their prior level of play, they are at an increased risk of significant knee injuries — both acute and chronic — and have a 50 percent increased risk of developing osteoarthritis.

As for Bridgewater, who could come off the physically unable to perform list within the next few weeks, the research serves as a cautionary tale. Anybody with a heart and who is a fan of football is pulling for him to return to action and succeed, but getting back on the field, although it would be a major triumph, is only the beginning. He will forever have an elevated risk for suffering another knee injury, not only in his involved knee but also his uninvolved.

It’s imperative that the Vikings and Bridgewater continue to be cautious with his return, putting him back under center only when he and his knee are truly ready, whether that be this season or next.

Bridgewater did not experience any arterial or nerve damage, according to the Vikings.