What's your ideal scenario over the next 3 months?
For me it would be as follows:
- Edge/DT at the #11 spot
- Move up for JJ McCarthy end of round 1
- Sign Kirk Cousins to 2-year contract
@"StickyBun" said: For me it would be as follows:I'd be extremely stoked about this possibility. What's your ideal scenario?
- Edge/DT at the #11 spot
- Move up for JJ McCarthy end of round 1
- Sign Kirk Cousins to 2-year contract
Im on board. Gotta see where McCarthy ends up. Is he a lower 1st, Mid 1st. I do not want Penix if McCarthy is unavailable.
I would like them to extend JJ prior to the start of the league year as it would signal the direction that the organization is going & free up additional Cap.
@"StickyBun" said: For me it would be as follows:I'd be extremely stoked about this possibility. What's your ideal scenario?
- Edge/DT at the #11 spot
- Move up for JJ McCarthy end of round 1
- Sign Kirk Cousins to 2-year contract
I will maintain relentless negativity at all times to counter your naive optimism. Next year when the franchise is a smoking 4-13 wreck, I'll say, "SEE, I TOLD YOU SO!". :p =)
@"comet52" said:@"StickyBun" said: For me it would be as follows:I'd be extremely stoked about this possibility. What's your ideal scenario?
- Edge/DT at the #11 spot
- Move up for JJ McCarthy end of round 1
- Sign Kirk Cousins to 2-year contract
I will maintain relentless negativity at all times to counter your naive optimism. Next year when the franchise is a smoking 4-13 wreck, I'll say, "SEE, I TOLD YOU SO!". :p =)
lol, might happen! But lay down your ideal scenario sir!
@"StickyBun" said: For me it would be as follows:I'd be extremely stoked about this possibility. What's your ideal scenario?
- Edge/DT at the #11 spot
- Move up for JJ McCarthy end of round 1
- Sign Kirk Cousins to 2-year contract
I'm all for this in principle. Ultimately, would rather trade up to the top of the 2nd rd. for McCarthy if he's there.
@"StickyBun" said:@"comet52" said:@"StickyBun" said: For me it would be as follows:I'd be extremely stoked about this possibility. What's your ideal scenario?
- Edge/DT at the #11 spot
- Move up for JJ McCarthy end of round 1
- Sign Kirk Cousins to 2-year contract
I will maintain relentless negativity at all times to counter your naive optimism. Next year when the franchise is a smoking 4-13 wreck, I'll say, "SEE, I TOLD YOU SO!". :p =)
lol, might happen! But lay down your ideal scenario sir!
Oh you want me to *work* for this? I think I'm too burned out after 50+ years of Viking fandom to muster the effort. So...in Kwesi we trust! :o B)
I reserve the right to change my mind as I learn more, but pretty much the same. If we're gonna go for it, then go for it.
1. Sign Cousins
2. Sign Hunter
3. Sign Christian Wilkins, DT
3. Draft Edge at 11
4. Trade back into round one for JJM
But I think the only reason "JJM in the late 1st" sounds so good is because it appears JJM may have moved ahead of both Nix and Penix, while he's still considered a late 1st to early 2nd round pick. I don't think both can be true.
@"comet52" said:@"StickyBun" said: For me it would be as follows:I'd be extremely stoked about this possibility. What's your ideal scenario?
- Edge/DT at the #11 spot
- Move up for JJ McCarthy end of round 1
- Sign Kirk Cousins to 2-year contract
I will maintain relentless negativity at all times to counter your naive optimism. Next year when the franchise is a smoking 4-13 wreck, I'll say, "SEE, I TOLD YOU SO!". :p =)
Don't be hard on yourself. 4-13 is very possible if we don't re-sign Cousins, let Hunter go, etc. But hey, think of that '25 draft pick and all that money we'll be saving!!
@"StickyBun" said: For me it would be as follows:I'd be extremely stoked about this possibility. What's your ideal scenario?
- Edge/DT at the #11 spot
- Move up for JJ McCarthy end of round 1
- Sign Kirk Cousins to 2-year contract
If Kirk's deal is not Team friendly I am ok with rent a QB for 1-2 years.
@"Still Hurtn" said:@"StickyBun" said: For me it would be as follows:I'd be extremely stoked about this possibility. What's your ideal scenario?
- Edge/DT at the #11 spot
- Move up for JJ McCarthy end of round 1
- Sign Kirk Cousins to 2-year contract
If Kirk's deal is not Team friendly I am ok with rent a QB for 1-2 years.
...until it turns into a hellish Carolina landscape... :p
I'll be an early contrarian:
Sign KC to a 2 year
Re-Sign Hunter
Move up for Daniels
@"StickyBun" said: For me it would be as follows:I'd be extremely stoked about this possibility. What's your ideal scenario?
- Edge/DT at the #11 spot
- Move up for JJ McCarthy end of round 1
- Sign Kirk Cousins to 2-year contract
I said this in the other thread, but this really would be best case scenario IMO, provided Kirk's extension is reasonable without kicking more dead cap into future years. We need to get off that carousel
@"purplefaithful" said: I'll be an early contrarian:Sign KC to a 2 year
Re-Sign Hunter
Move up for Daniels
I just don't think the top 3 QBs are for sale at any price.
@"supafreak84" said:@"StickyBun" said: For me it would be as follows:I'd be extremely stoked about this possibility. What's your ideal scenario?
- Edge/DT at the #11 spot
- Move up for JJ McCarthy end of round 1
- Sign Kirk Cousins to 2-year contract
I said this in the other thread, but this really would be best case scenario IMO, provided Kirk's extension is reasonable without kicking more dead cap into future years. We need to get off that carousel
to those saying resign Cousins... what is the number? keep in mind we already owe 14 on him for the next 2 years, how much more on top of that works for you? My number is obviously much lower than reality so even though I would be supportive of resigning him, I have to say move on from Kirk,
extend Hunter,
ework Hitman without adding bullshit years,
approach JJs camp, but not really a requirement ( would be nice to have him locked up though )
find the best bridge guy we can in the lower to mid 20s per year ( add incentives if they somehow really flourish in our system just to make it enticing )
identify realistic QBs and dont get cute in the draft, they all get over drafted, just because JJ or whoever should fall to the 2nd, I dont see them being there at 31 or 32, take them when you can and move on.Use all available cap space to shore up OL, DL, LB/Edge positions, if there are quality players fitting needs coming off rookie deals, or short 2nd term deals lets fix this in a hurry.
We may still not be a contender in 24, but dammit I am sick of the OL and DL being the rubber stamp excuse, let focus on fixing this and get the future QB in house.
Ideal would be Andy Reid and Kelce retiring and Mahomes forcing his way to Minnesota because reasons.
Remotely plausible ideal which is also not happening would be-
1. Resign Jefferson for 5 years
2. Resign Kirk for 2 years with an easy out after one
3. Draft a top 4 QB (including Mccarthy)
4. Sign Belichick as a defensive consultant
5. Resign Risner and upgrade from Bradbury somehow
6. Resign Hunter
7. The Wilfs pinky swear to sell the team in 5 years if they haven’t reached the Super Bowl in that time
@"JimmyinSD" said:@"supafreak84" said:@"StickyBun" said: For me it would be as follows:I'd be extremely stoked about this possibility. What's your ideal scenario?
- Edge/DT at the #11 spot
- Move up for JJ McCarthy end of round 1
- Sign Kirk Cousins to 2-year contract
I said this in the other thread, but this really would be best case scenario IMO, provided Kirk's extension is reasonable without kicking more dead cap into future years. We need to get off that carousel
to those saying resign Cousins... what is the number? keep in mind we already owe 14 on him for the next 2 years, how much more on top of that works for you? My number is obviously much lower than reality so even though I would be supportive of resigning him, I have to say move on from Kirk,
extend Hunter,
ework Hitman without adding bullshit years,
approach JJs camp, but not really a requirement ( would be nice to have him locked up though )
find the best bridge guy we can in the lower to mid 20s per year ( add incentives if they somehow really flourish in our system just to make it enticing )
identify realistic QBs and dont get cute in the draft, they all get over drafted, just because JJ or whoever should fall to the 2nd, I dont see them being there at 31 or 32, take them when you can and move on.Use all available cap space to shore up OL, DL, LB/Edge positions, if there are quality players fitting needs coming off rookie deals, or short 2nd term deals lets fix this in a hurry.
We may still not be a contender in 24, but dammit I am sick of the OL and DL being the rubber stamp excuse, let focus on fixing this and get the future QB in house.
It's certainly not the 90 million guaranteed two year deal that he is reportedly looking for. There is just no way you make that kind of investment on a 36 year old coming off a major injury that could affect him moving forward. There's no way. That's why I say I'd only like him back on a reasonable extension that protects the teams cap interests moving forward. No more kicking the can down the road to pay him. With that said, he certainly gives us the best chance to win for NEXT season whenever he is available to do so from the injury. If Kirk holds tight on his demands and they don't fit into the Vikings future cap considerations, then let Atlanta or some other team roll those dice on Kirk and give him the guarantees he wants. I'd rather sign another veteran than give Kirk guaranteed big money only for him to play a handful of games and be hurt once again and the Vikings being on the hook to pay him moving forward. That's the real gamble.
Kwazy dies in a plane crash.The Vikings hire Scott Pioli. Superbowls are sure to follow…! ;) B). just kidding, kind of. :p
@"Kentis" said: Kwazy dies in a plane crash.The Vikings hire Scott Pioli. Superbowls are sure to follow…! ;) B). just kidding, kind of. :pLmao, harsh...so harsh. But Pioli!? No way...
@"supafreak84" said:@"Kentis" said: Kwazy dies in a plane crash.The Vikings hire Scott Pioli. Superbowls are sure to follow…! ;) B). just kidding, kind of. :p Lmao, harsh...so harsh. But Pioli!? No way...He has 3 more rings than this organization…
Career highlights and awards
- 3× Super Bowl champion (XXXVI, XXXVIII, XXXIX)
- 3× PFWA Executive of the Year (2003, 2007, 2010)
- 3× Sports Illustrated NFL Executive of the Year (2003, 2004, 2010)
- 2× Sporting News NFL Executive of the Year Award (2003, 2004)
- USA Today NFL Executive of the Year Award (2004)
- Sports Illustrated NFL GM/Executive of the Decade (2000s)
- Sporting News NFL Executive of the Decade (2000s)
- ESPN.com NFL Personnel Man of the Decade (2000s)
@"Kentis" said:@"supafreak84" said:@"Kentis" said: Kwazy dies in a plane crash.The Vikings hire Scott Pioli. Superbowls are sure to follow…! ;) B). just kidding, kind of. :p Lmao, harsh...so harsh. But Pioli!? No way...He has 3 more rings than this organization…
Career highlights and awards
- 3× Super Bowl champion (XXXVI, XXXVIII, XXXIX)
- 3× PFWA Executive of the Year (2003, 2007, 2010)
- 3× Sports Illustrated NFL Executive of the Year (2003, 2004, 2010)
- 2× Sporting News NFL Executive of the Year Award (2003, 2004)
- USA Today NFL Executive of the Year Award (2004)
- Sports Illustrated NFL GM/Executive of the Decade (2000s)
- Sporting News NFL Executive of the Decade (2000s)
- ESPN.com NFL Personnel Man of the Decade (2000s)
That's because he was a Brady/Belichick coattails hanger like sooo many failures from that organization. I want nothing to do with anybody from New England, especially one that's been a one time loser already as a GM. I'm all for (replacing) Kwesi though lol
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