Another Terrible Coaching Performance by KOC

From coach of the year to WTF in 5 hours.   The game was right there and instead of playing the game he played the historical odds and lost once again.  At some point you have to look at the game itself and base your calls on the situation,   not historical odds.

I like KOC but this is the second game in a row his chickenshit play calling lost us the game at the end when we were in great position to put the game away.

another learning moment for our young coach. Hes git to get smarter in the red zone, and the play calling after the fumble recovery with 3:36 left was brutal. virtually no time came off the clock giving toms of time to the Bears. One friggen first down there and we win the game. so pissed right now

@"NorthernCalVike" said: another learning moment for our young coach. Hes git to get smarter in the red zone, and the play calling after the fumble recovery with 3:36 left was brutal. virtually no time came off the clock giving toms of time to the Bears. One friggen first down there and we win the game. so pissed right now

If you plan on running, why go 3 TE and have Mattison in the backfield and draw 9 in the box?  A placation roll out would have been a much better call.  It really wasn't a concern of the clock where an incomplete pass kills you.

Then to double down on 2nd, making 3rd and long.

And the 3rd and long was that?  

Play calling looked scared at the end of the game.  That's not what you want from a head coach at all

@"NorthernCalVike" said: another learning moment for our young coach. Hes git to get smarter in the red zone, and the play calling after the fumble recovery with 3:36 left was brutal. virtually no time came off the clock giving toms of time to the Bears. One friggen first down there and we win the game. so pissed right now

How many years of learning while we suffer this shit will he need to finally know wtf he's doing?

The Vikings have hired 4 coaches under Wilf and all had zero NFL head coaching experience.  And they passed on a proven winner in Harbaugh.

Maybe it's time to stop getting guys who need years to learn on the job various basics like clock management, play calling, or how not to go into a chickenshit shell and lose games that you had in the bag.

@"comet52" said:

@"NorthernCalVike" said: another learning moment for our young coach. Hes git to get smarter in the red zone, and the play calling after the fumble recovery with 3:36 left was brutal. virtually no time came off the clock giving toms of time to the Bears. One friggen first down there and we win the game. so pissed right now

How many years of learning while we suffer this shit will he need to finally know wtf he's doing?

The Vikings have hired 4 coaches under Wilf and all had zero NFL head coaching experience.  And they passed on a proven winner in Harbaugh.

Maybe it's time to stop getting guys who need years to learn on the job various basics like clock management, play calling, or how not to go into a chickenshit shell and lose games that you had in the bag.

I certainly had a range of emotions on this game, casting blame to various parts of the team. Minnesota could have won this game despite being down -2 in turnover margin. Frustrating. With Cousins and this D, the team would have cruised to victory in this game. 

All losses are "terrible coaching performances." If the guy could coach he would've won. Or something like that. 

4 Interceptions. If you plan on shitting on the team, start there. 

@"AGRforever" said: 4 Interceptions. If you plan on shitting on the team, start there. 

Of course. Its why they lost. But KOC seems to be a target for some, however he's not beyond reproach. I just don't think he trusts Dobbs as a passer....and if that's the case, what the hell is he doing in there?

@"StickyBun" said:

@"AGRforever" said: 4 Interceptions. If you plan on shitting on the team, start there. 

Of course. Its why they lost. But KOC seems to be a target for some, however he's not beyond reproach. I just don't think he trusts Dobbs as a passer....and if that's the case, what the hell is he doing in there?

@"AGRforever" said:

@"StickyBun" said:

@"AGRforever" said: 4 Interceptions. If you plan on shitting on the team, start there. 

Of course. Its why they lost. But KOC seems to be a target for some, however he's not beyond reproach. I just don't think he trusts Dobbs as a passer....and if that's the case, what the hell is he doing in there?

Kirk is on IR and he doesn’t trust Mullens or Hall either.  

Bloom is off the rose for Dobbs. KOC not utilizing his mobility is dumb. Especially on the drive after the 4th qtr fumble recovery. Bears clearly understood this with Fields. Flores coaching amazing. Dobbs has 20 shit the bed plays were he fumbled, been intercepted almost intercepted intentional grounding in 4 games? Give Hall a shot after bye. I feel like Bill Murray in Ground Hog Day

@"StickyBun" said: I certainly had a range of emotions on this game, casting blame to various parts of the team. Minnesota could have won this game despite being down -2 in turnover margin. Frustrating. With Cousins and this D, the team would have cruised to victory in this game. 

Cousins didnt have a good game against the Bears either. Just better play calling. Fields got knocked out of the first game. with the talent we have on offense it should have been and easy win. Most all our games come down to the last series, And that is on the coach.

Our last possession was the worst series of the game. But I don't think it was conservativeness to blame. The Vikings needed to be conservative here. They had to run time off the clock. They also needed to get at least 5 or 6 yards for a legit chance at a FG. A 1st down would've ended the game. Dobbs was delivering balls to Chicago all night, so any pass would've been dangerous. And a sack would've been disastrous. I don't have a problem with the play calls, only the execution. 
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Why so Conservative late? 
After taking a 10-9 lead on Hockenson's 17-yard touchdown with 5:54 to play, Josh Metellus forced Justin Fields to fumble and Anthony Barr recovered the ball at Chicago's 43-yard line with 3 minutes, 36 seconds left in the game. O'Connell called a run play to Alexander Mattison that went for no gain and then he called another run to Mattison that gained one yard. On third-and-nine with 2:41 to go, he called a passing play that Brandon Powell caught for a loss of a yard. They couldn't risk a 60-yard field goal attempt to give Chicago the ball at midfield, so they had to punt. Had they just picked up one first down the game would've been all but over. Had they just moved the ball from the 43 to 35 or so they could've given Greg Joseph a chance to make a long field goal and force the Bears to beat them with a touchdown rather than a field goal. 
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@"MaroonBells" said: Our last possession was the worst series of the game. But I don't think it was conservativeness to blame. The Vikings needed to be conservative here. They had to run time off the clock. They also needed to get at least 5 or 6 yards for a legit chance at a FG. A 1st down would've ended the game. Dobbs was delivering balls to Chicago all night, so any pass would've been dangerous. And a sack would've been disastrous. I don't have a problem with the play calls, only the execution.  ------- Why so Conservative late?  After taking a 10-9 lead on Hockenson's 17-yard touchdown with 5:54 to play, Josh Metellus forced Justin Fields to fumble and Anthony Barr recovered the ball at Chicago's 43-yard line with 3 minutes, 36 seconds left in the game. O'Connell called a run play to Alexander Mattison that went for no gain and then he called another run to Mattison that gained one yard. On third-and-nine with 2:41 to go, he called a passing play that Brandon Powell caught for a loss of a yard. They couldn't risk a 60-yard field goal attempt to give Chicago the ball at midfield, so they had to punt. Had they just picked up one first down the game would've been all but over. Had they just moved the ball from the 43 to 35 or so they could've given Greg Joseph a chance to make a long field goal and force the Bears to beat them with a touchdown rather than a field goal.  -------- https://www.si.com/fannation/bringmethesports/vikings/5-things-that-stood-out-in-vikings-unsightly-loss-to-bears

What about the stupidity of not putting pressure on Fields during their entire last drive.  3 Man and 4 Man rushes the entire drive.   Should have had 6-7 coming multiple times.  Flores out thought himself there.  Coupled with four picks, and WAY too conservative play-calling on our final drive, that was a well-earned defeat.   Might as well push the Bears down the draft board and us up the draft board at this point.   We aren't competitive to do anything but lose our first playoff game with the QB situation.   

Another brutal loss. I'm still tilting honestly.
Blame game:
1. Dobbs was god awful. Period.
2. KO is calling waaaaay too few designed runs for Dobbs. Maybe he's gunshy after Hall got knocked out so fast but if we want to win games it's gonna be with Dobbs' legs and improvisations, not his arm.
These two are far and away the top two reasons IMO that we lost. I think KO is a very good coach and getting better but I cannot understand his resistance to calling Dobbs run plays. Dobbs looked way better playing sandlot ball when he didn't know the offense than he does right now.
Honorable mention blame:
3. No run game still. Mattison had a few nice runs but overall the run game still stinks.
4. Dobbs/KO continuing to throw at Jaylon Johnson who is a nice player, but we made him look like Revis Island all night and kept going at him, even as the Bears defense kept getting dinged up with injuries.
The Good:
BFlo and the Defense: A+. Fell on some fumbles finally, got some sacks, and prevented TDs. Impressive and it sucks our offense blew this game for them.
Last note: The Bears defense played very well. Good gameplan, got pressure all night long, and had a couple of very nice plays to cause turnovers. Credit to them.
Oh and did I mention I that was a BRUTAL loss? Still pissed. Same ol Vikes. UGH

So if I get this right....

The QB throws 4 int's, is off on 85% of his throws all night, the coach limits his passing cause the guy is clearly in over his head..

So this is the coaches fault? 

@"purplefaithful" said: So if I get this right....

The QB throws 4 int's, is off on 85% of his throws all night, the coach limits his passing cause the guy is clearly in over his head..

So this is the coaches fault? 

A good coach puts their players in the best possible position to succeed.  KOC is clueless in terms of coaching his personnel.  Like most coaches these days he is a system coach and coaches players to play one system instead of developing a system that fits his players.  Past two weeks he has tried to stuff a square peg into a round hole.  Dobbs is not Cousins, the plays designed for Cousins are not going to work.  Fields beat us with his legs when they needed it the most, KOC has put chains on Dobbs and has taken away his best ability.

Also, despite all the mistakes just like last week, the game was there for the taking, you needed one first down and the game was over, 2 runs up the middle and a screen pass was not going to get it done.  Neither he or Flores can coach under pressure, two weeks in a row they both choked on the last drive and that is the main reason why we lost the last two games. Players are going to make mistakes, but coaches have to be the ones to hold it together, our coaches compound the poor play. 

I think this game is purely on Dobbs and whatever KOC did or
didn’t do to get him ready.  It kind of
feels like teams have had enough time to see our strengths and weaknesses with
Dobbs as QB and he just hasn’t progressed enough in our offense to really have
enough counters.  It really seemed like
Chicago knew what we were going to do, had guys dropping into those zones, and
we just weren’t ready for it or had any answers.