Jaren Hall
I hate to say it, but Kirk's injury is somewhat of a blessing to get to see what we have in Hall. I personally feel like he can come in and play well. I thought he flashed a little in preseason and it's more a case of absorbing the offense, which is complex. He's had half a season sitting and learning. He's mobile and can make all the throws. He's older, and has played a lot of football. We have a tremendous supporting cast especially when Jefferson returns. I'm excited to see if he can be "the guy" and think he's got a chance here to be successful. Vote of confidence here for the kid. KOC needs to put him in position to be successful and luckily we are hitting a soft spot in the schedule.
@"comet52" said:@"jargomcfargo" said: Hall in preseason didn't appear to have it against lesser talent. But he also had a real bad offensive line.
I thought he showed progress from game to game actually, along with nice ability to throw accurately on the run. He also had decent pocket awareness and the smarts to run out of trouble and throw the ball away rather than lose yards taking sacks. And behind the third string oline those are necessary traits.
He has a chance. I think KOC probably has to adjust the offense a little. Turn it into one of those simplified, rookie-friendly things that benefitted the likes of Mac Jones and Brock Purdy early on.Shame we don't have much of a running game to fall back on. But I think now is the time for Akers and Chandler to get more opportunities. It really is puzzling to me why Chandler doesn't get more snaps.
I thought he showed a lot of poise coming in unexpectedly, made a big 3rd down pass and showed a lot of maturity in his post game interview. Our only shot for this year is to get lucky with a Brock Purdy type situation and may as well see if Hall can be that guy. Since we are likely to need draft capital to move around in draft for a QB do not think we can afford to make any trades. I would be intrigued to bring in someone like Wentz to take Mannion's spot as a backup and see if KOC can be the guy to get his game back together.
@"comet52" said:@"jargomcfargo" said: Hall in preseason didn't appear to have it against lesser talent. But he also had a real bad offensive line.
I thought he showed progress from game to game actually, along with nice ability to throw accurately on the run. He also had decent pocket awareness and the smarts to run out of trouble and throw the ball away rather than lose yards taking sacks. And behind the third string oline those are necessary traits.
That may be, but he had so little protection he was constantly under siege. That's why I hope they roll with him and give him a better chance of success. He has mobility and awareness which may not go far without a run game. This will be a big play calling challenge for KOC, and I hope Kwesi doesn't give up draft capitol for a washed up never been!
I just heard that were taking with the Saints trying to make a trade for Jamies Winston. Not sure If i like that idea. Would rather just ride with Hall and see what we got.
Not much talk about Mullens. He was the backup QB, should hopefully be back in a couple of weeks.
If Hall is any type of a game manager he will do alright. plenty of talented receivers for him to throw to.
Now lets see how good of a job KOC does.
@"NorthernCalVike" said: I just heard that were taking with the Saints trying to make a trade for Jamies Winston. Not sure If i like that idea. Would rather just ride with Hall and see what we got.
Oh for fuck sakes. Are you serious? Can't we just roll over and die like a normal team that 4-4 and lost their starting QB. Making it as a wildcard team and losing in the first round on the road in San Fransisco doesn't exactly give me warm fuzzies.
@"AGRforever" said:@"NorthernCalVike" said: I just heard that were taking with the Saints trying to make a trade for Jamies Winston. Not sure If i like that idea. Would rather just ride with Hall and see what we got.Oh for fuck sakes. Are you serious? Can't we just roll over and die like a normal team that 4-4 and lost their starting QB. Making it as a wildcard team and losing in the first round on the road in San Fransisco doesn't exactly give me warm fuzzies.
WE can do anything we want. WE can stop watching and just go fishing on Sundays. But there a few biggish guys in Minneapolis who might not want to throw in the towel just yet.
Jameis Winston?? Please be a rumor.
I was on “X” an hour or so ago and sombody was claiming that we’re talking to Ben Roethlisberger. Isn’t his arm fried burnt toast??? My brain will truly explode if the Wilves plural decide we need either of these two, or Murray, or anybody that costs us picks, or truly basically anybody other than what we already have on our roster.
@"AGRforever" said:@"NorthernCalVike" said: I just heard that were taking with the Saints trying to make a trade for Jamies Winston. Not sure If i like that idea. Would rather just ride with Hall and see what we got.Oh for fuck sakes. Are you serious? Can't we just roll over and die like a normal team that 4-4 and lost their starting QB. Making it as a wildcard team and losing in the first round on the road in San Fransisco doesn't exactly give me warm fuzzies.
There's no chance we'd make the playoffs with Jamies. The guy is a coach killing drive killing machine.
@"NorthernCalVike" said: I just heard that were taking with the Saints trying to make a trade for Jamies Winston. Not sure If i like that idea. Would rather just ride with Hall and see what we got.With Cousins out for the year and Winston riding the bench in New Orleans, reports have stated that Justin Jefferson has already contacted Winston about coming to Minnesota. The pair reportedly worked out together this offseason. It would be a reasonably easy trade to get done, as one would imagine the Saints won't want that much for him. Plus, Minnesota gets a veteran quarterback who can win games if given the weapons.
@"ArizonaViking" said:OMG, so is JJ taking over as GM?? WTF….@"NorthernCalVike" said: I just heard that were taking with the Saints trying to make a trade for Jamies Winston. Not sure If i like that idea. Would rather just ride with Hall and see what we got. With Cousins out for the year and Winston riding the bench in New Orleans, reports have stated that Justin Jefferson has already contacted Winston about coming to Minnesota. The pair reportedly worked out together this offseason. It would be a reasonably easy trade to get done, as one would imagine the Saints won't want that much for him. Plus, Minnesota gets a veteran quarterback who can win games if given the weapons.
I don't believe for a minute that there is any substance to anything related to Jameis. There's so much bullshit out there right now
So much negativity around Hall already. Such bullshit. Let the kid play
He's a mobile kid with an arm that hits all 3 levels. He's older, calm, and not rattled in a big moment. He steps into an offense with a top 3 passing OL, a ton of weapons, a very winnable schedule for the next 3-4 games, an improving defense. He might not have to go out and win games, he just has to prevent losing them.
He looked calm in Lambeau starting deep in his own territory, nice roll out, very nice 3rd down pass. That fumble was on Darrisaw, not Hall.
He is going to surprise people with a victory in Atlanta. Book it
Ill be so glad when the trade deadline passes and we don’t trade for someone.
There's no downside to playing Hall the rest of the season. If he pleasantly surprises us, we can still take a QBOTF next draft and know we have a competent cheap backup for 3 years or decide to ride with Hall. If he crashes, then we have a higher draft pick for the QBOTF.
@"AGRforever" said: Ill be so glad when the trade deadline passes and we don’t trade for someone.Crossing my fingers for a complete absence of news Tuesday.
@"Vikergirl" said: I don't believe for a minute that there is any substance to anything related to Jameis. There's so much bullshit out there right nowThe 'rumor' came from a noted bullshit fraud Twitter account.
@"JR44" said: I thought he showed a lot of poise coming in unexpectedly, made a big 3rd down pass and showed a lot of maturity in his post game interview. Our only shot for this year is to get lucky with a Brock Purdy type situation and may as well see if Hall can be that guy. Since we are likely to need draft capital to move around in draft for a QB do not think we can afford to make any trades. I would be intrigued to bring in someone like Wentz to take Mannion's spot as a backup and see if KOC can be the guy to get his game back together.One thing that probably wasn't shown on TV but I saw at the game... after that big 3rd down completion to Hock over the middle, Brian O'Neill was the first one to come up and give him a fist bump. Guys were excited for him and Hall seemed calm and collected. I'd like to see what he can do, there will be rookie mistakes but he's a mature kid.
@"Skodin" said: So much negativity around Hall already. Such bullshit. Let the kid playHe's a mobile kid with an arm that hits all 3 levels. He's older, calm, and not rattled in a big moment. He steps into an offense with a top 3 passing OL, a ton of weapons, a very winnable schedule for the next 3-4 games, an improving defense. He might not have to go out and win games, he just has to prevent losing them.
He looked calm in Lambeau starting deep in his own territory, nice roll out, very nice 3rd down pass. That fumble was on Darrisaw, not Hall.
He is going to surprise people with a victory in Atlanta. Book it
.....agreed. He's also had 8 games to absorb NFL life, work schedule, games on the road and and at home, etc. That 3rd down throw was huge after getting blindside sacked for a fumble. A week of 1st string reps and preparation and let him cook on Sunday. Utilize his strengths.
@"StickyBun" said:That's my point. So much bullshit out there. I mean there is nonsense about Roethlisberger too@"Vikergirl" said: I don't believe for a minute that there is any substance to anything related to Jameis. There's so much bullshit out there right now The 'rumor' came from a noted bullshit fraud Twitter account.
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