KOC owns it
I give him credit for that, regardless of what you think of him as a HC.
Really informative comment from Kevin O'Connell with @PAOnTheMic: "We cannot seek comfort in using (the turnover margin) as an excuse. We have to find the way to acknowledge what has happened as our reality. That's the honest truth." https://t.co/krhoK3PApT
— Alec Lewis (@alec_lewis) September 21, 2023
I'll give him credit, but a little less philosophy and more spellin with Xs & Os, will make me feel better.
He talks a good game. But results on the field are all that matters in the long run.
I can put a lot on the coach, but turnovers typically isnt one of them, kids are coached from the time they touch a football to protect the damn thing, how to carry it in every different scenario, where to place it for accurate passes, every damn scenario possible, if pros cant protect the damn ball then that is on them. I could maybe see it as a focus thing which could go back to the coach, but I dont see a bunch of unfocused players fucking around. This is IMO more about players trying to hard to make plays, maybe feeling pressure?
Sorry, but the end of the game clock management might very well take Zimmer off the schneid.
@"FLVike" said: Sorry, but the end of the game clock management might very well take Zimmer off the schneid.
@"FLVike" said:
Sorry, but the end of the game clock management might very well take Zimmer off the schneid.
Kirko couldn’t hear the play. Not sure who thats on? I guess maybe Kirko should have called hos own.
Its time to trade some shit away. put a fork in us. This diviaion sucks but time to embrace the rebuild.
@"AGRforever" said:@"FLVike" said: Sorry, but the end of the game clock management might very well take Zimmer off the schneid.
@"FLVike" said:
Sorry, but the end of the game clock management might very well take Zimmer off the schneid.
Kirko couldn’t hear the play. Not sure who thats on? I guess maybe Kirko should have called hos own.You're the coach;No time-outs with less than a minute remaining.Would you have two plays called?
Honestly, WTF!!! Completion for 1st and goal with 30+ seconds left and everyone strolls to the line like we had just called a time out. I was losing my mind watching that abortion of clock management! Can't tell me that wasn't a turn-over on the coaching staff! Hurry the hell up, spike the ball and huddle up to get 2-3 plays called to get TD. That is totally on the coach. My opinion of KAM was already circling the toilet with his crap decisions spit out of a computer, and now this with KOC. Wonder twins they are NOT. I have hope for KOC still, but we shall see. What a shitshow.
@"Psyched Vike" said: Honestly, WTF!!! Completion for 1st and goal with 30+ seconds left and everyone strolls to the line like we had just called a time out. I was losing my mind watch that abortion of clock management! Can't tell me that wasn't a complete coaching turn-over! Hurry the hell up, spike the ball and huddle up to get 2-3 plays called to get TD. That is totally on the coach. My opinion of KAM was already circling the toilet with his crap decisions spit out of a computer, and now this with KOC. Wonder twins they are NOT. I have hope for KOC still, but we shall see. What a shitshow.
Wouldn't be ironic that Cousins on his final year keeps doing what he does and leads us right to Caleb Williams?Only to watch KAM trade-back 20 spots to get an extra 6th rounder.
@"FLVike" said:@"AGRforever" said:@"FLVike" said: Sorry, but the end of the game clock management might very well take Zimmer off the schneid.
@"FLVike" said:
Sorry, but the end of the game clock management might very well take Zimmer off the schneid.
Kirko couldn’t hear the play. Not sure who thats on? I guess maybe Kirko should have called hos own.You're the coach;No time-outs with less than a minute remaining.Would you have two plays called?
Spike it was the right call. There was ~25 seconds. Youre not running 4 plays in 25 seconds. 1 spike and 3 plays was plenty.
spike the dam ball
@"AGRforever" said:@"FLVike" said:@"AGRforever" said:@"FLVike" said: Sorry, but the end of the game clock management might very well take Zimmer off the schneid.
@"FLVike" said:
Sorry, but the end of the game clock management might very well take Zimmer off the schneid.
Kirko couldn’t hear the play. Not sure who thats on? I guess maybe Kirko should have called hos own.You're the coach;No time-outs with less than a minute remaining.Would you have two plays called?
Spike it was the right call. There was ~25 seconds. Youre not running 4 plays in 25 seconds. 1 spike and 3 plays was plenty.Ok, that would be a play and most certainly agree.
I still like KO and think he needs a lot more time and the chance to get “his own” QB, but yeah that was a mess late. It was a no-brainer spike situation. Everyone on and off the field involved is to blame for that bungling.
@"pattersaur" said: I still like KO and think he needs a lot more time and the chance to get “his own” QB, but yeah that was a mess late. It was a no-brainer spike situation. Everyone on and off the field involved is to blame for that bungling.Between the Vikings continual blunders and Notre Dame trotting out 10 players on defense on the final play yesterday, not sure how much more I can take. What a weekend...
@"supafreak84" said:@"pattersaur" said: I still like KO and think he needs a lot more time and the chance to get “his own” QB, but yeah that was a mess late. It was a no-brainer spike situation. Everyone on and off the field involved is to blame for that bungling. Between the Vikings continual blunders and Notre Dame trotting out 10 players on defense on the final play yesterday, not sure how much more I can take. What a weekend...Maybe we can get that RB from Notre Dame if we trade our 1st for a 3rd and a 4th?
@"FLVike" said:@"supafreak84" said:@"pattersaur" said: I still like KO and think he needs a lot more time and the chance to get “his own” QB, but yeah that was a mess late. It was a no-brainer spike situation. Everyone on and off the field involved is to blame for that bungling. Between the Vikings continual blunders and Notre Dame trotting out 10 players on defense on the final play yesterday, not sure how much more I can take. What a weekend...Maybe we can get that RB from Notre Dame if we trade our 1st for a 3rd and a 4th?
I know a guy that can make that happen. They say, he is Kwesi like a fox....
Kirk should have had the presence of mind to run up, get the team in line and spike it. But Kirk can't really do anything without getting permission, it's just how he's built, how he was raised. So he waits for KOC to tell him what to do, the clock runs down, the play turns into a mistake, game over.
Well if KOC reads this then I have an idea for him; Why not use some days between games to practice plays and game situations? Just a thought.
Vikings possession. Last 40 seconds.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=gVtU1N4rhuA&pp=ygURbWlubmVzb3RhIHZpa2luZ3M%3D
@"pattersaur" said: I still like KO and think he needs a lot more time and the chance to get “his own” QB, but yeah that was a mess late. It was a no-brainer spike situation. Everyone on and off the field involved is to blame for that bungling.
@"pattersaur" said: I still like KO and think he needs a lot more time and the chance to get “his own” QB, but yeah that was a mess late. It was a no-brainer spike situation. Everyone on and off the field involved is to blame for that bungling.We had a QB throw for 346 yds. We had receivers drop at least 3 balls that could have won or set up the win. Getting the top QB in next yrs. draft isn't going to fix what ails this franchise. We have a shitty D-line, shitty LBer's, marginal DB's, a shitty O-line, and marginal RB's. Other than that everything's swell.
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